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We all know that the state of Israel was formed in 1948 on Palestinian soil......dont we?

Then why do Christians think that this is the same Israel mentioned in the Bible or the Quran for that matter?

2006-08-04 23:35:43 · 17 answers · asked by nouman20 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The reason is simple. Most people are ignorant of history and current events. They assumes the present Israel is the same as Biblical Israel because they are both spelled the same. If the names are the same, then of course they have to be the same thing. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The Israel of today was formed by a bunch of jewish exiles mainly from Russia and Europe, who, because of their arrogance and standoffishness, offended just about everybody in some way or another. The impetus for the creation of Israel in the land of Palestine came largely from the British. The Balfour Declaration of November, 1917 was the cause of much of the present crisis: "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people..." This was really the start of the whole problem, and people who look back only two weeks, a month, or a year are ignorant and shortsighted or just trying to rationalize Israeli genocide and aggression against the Arab peoples.

All of this business of the Israelis being the 'Chosen" people is just so much revised historical bunk, as is the idea that the land was promised to them. It wasn't. It was promised to the descendants of Abraham, which turns out to include the Arabs also. The jews have a very bad habit of claiming everything as theirs. Even the word "Semitic" originally referred to a related group of languages including Aramiac, Arabic and Hebrew, and did NOT mean anything along the lines of "of or pertaining to jews or jewishness"...the jews have usurped the term as thay have almost everything else.

But I ramble on. One could list modern jewish atrocities and genocide as the cause of Middle East problems and be far closer to the real truth that what the mainstream media says about the situation today. There is this irrational and illogical fear of being branded an "anti-Semite" which by jewish implication is somehow a very bad thing and makes one guilty automatically of a hate crime.

The fact is that today's Israel has nothing at all to do with the term as used in the Bible. They are two radically different concepts. But because they are spelled the same most people assume them to be the same, especially ignorant Americans most of whom, if asked, would be hard-pressed to even find Israel on a world map, not realizing that while they are unable to locate it, the jewish lobby has located their wallet and is diverting billions of dollars a year to fund Israeli aggression and genocide against the Arab people.

2006-08-04 23:58:06 · answer #1 · answered by Kokopelli 7 · 0 3

In 1948 2 nation states were "created" by the United Nations...Israel and Palestine. Israel accepted the offer. The Palestinians said No, all or nothing.
WW2 convinced the UN that the Jewish people did need an Official, place of their own. the Romans had caused most but never ALL the Jews to dispurse after 70 AD. Modern Jewish people had been returning to Zion, Israel, a British colonial state....since the mid1800s.

The Jews got their land the old fashioned way, they bought it, piece by piece.

Jews have lived in Jeruselem from the time of abraham.....throughout all historical times to now.
How could NOT BE the same Israel?

Is Japan the same Nippon it was 1000-2000 years ago?

2006-08-05 00:00:08 · answer #2 · answered by K P 1 · 0 0

The Israelis (Judaism) was established 5763 Years Ago in the Region Which is Known as Present Day Israel
The Palestinians Became a People 30 Years Ago!
622 AD Hijra of Mohammed. Islam is founded, four thousand years after Jews were living in Israel.
61 BC Roman conquest of Jerusalem by Pompei. Land is divided into various provinces (maps).
70 AD First Jewish revolt. Fall of the Jewish Second Temple to Romans
133-135 Second Jewish revolt under Bar - Kochba crushed. Judea renamed Palestina by the Romans.

1005 BCE - Jerusalem Established by the Jews. King David builds a Wall around Jerusalem and Transfers the Holy Ark Inside.
950 BCE - King Solomon Builds the First Temple in Jerusalem.

2006-08-04 23:39:33 · answer #3 · answered by Bear Naked 6 · 0 0

Well all countries were formed at a particular time or date, lets not forget that for one. Secondly, look at the area in question - Israel - which has been the homeland for many thousands of years and which is a very important place for all faiths. Abraham, the basic founder of 3 faiths led the Israelites out of Egypt and to an area of what today is known as Israel. Its the center location that the three main faiths were created, thus its there that it will end !

2006-08-04 23:43:31 · answer #4 · answered by Baghdad Pete ! 4 · 0 1

The Israel in the middle east is Judah mentioned in the bible which is a part of Israel.
Present day Israel is the United States & Britain!
Go to this website & read the book on the United States & Britain in Prophecy!
They have the proof.

2006-08-04 23:41:54 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Israel can give you the name and address of every leader they've had for the last three thousand years. Palestine didn't have a leader before Yassir Arafat. If you don't believe me, google it. Or ask on this site. The best muslim answer will be a colonel in the German Army. Before him, no one. No leader, no land, no people. They are refugees left over from countless defeated armies. That alone makes them worthy of God's love. But they really have to stop pretending to be friends of legal Arab states. Egypt wont have them. Jordan claims the same land. Syria despises them. Lebanon kicked them out decades ago. Lybia knows better than to get involved on any level. It's not the Jews that put the Palestinians out, it's the Muslims. It's also Muslims that pay them to put bombs on the own children.

p.s. God told Israel to obliterate the people in that land, and they just didn't have the heart to do it. They still don't.

2006-08-04 23:56:09 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

They need a reason to claim land somewhere in this world - but you are correct in questioning the location of Israel. Many beliefs are totally wrong concerning the geographical positioning of the old testament and are based upon the homeland rantings and memory verse (pre-writing) of displaced wandering tribes. From my own 20-year research the greatest candidate for a true "Holyland" is right here in Britain - I can prove it, but you'll have to wait for the book to come out.

2006-08-04 23:52:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well obviously you do not know that Palestine was formerly called "Judea" . The Romans changed it from Judea to Syrian Palestine in 137AD in an attempt to wipe out historical reference to the Jews. The Jews were there way before the Arabs.

It was mentioned by many other writers, check out the link below.

2006-08-04 23:39:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

because they are refferring to that patch of ground, not the government that is there now. That patch of ground was israel in the bible and it is israel today. Two different countries on one piece of ground at different times.

2006-08-04 23:40:35 · answer #9 · answered by Charles D 5 · 0 0

I don't. The Israelite were the chosen people and the only ones with the way to God. Jesus made us all his children and gave us direct access to God. I think it is one of those little wierd bits of Dogma or superstition that many Christians hold too. As though we must protect those people because they were choicen by God. But it doesn't work that way anymore. WE have to chose God to be his people.

2006-08-04 23:43:03 · answer #10 · answered by Constant_Traveler 5 · 0 0

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