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Paul's religion got mixed with Greek and Roman methology to form the 'God man'. Jesus was a Prophet, worship God as Jesus did, and his early followers.

2006-08-04 21:57:22 · 18 answers · asked by abdulaziiz 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Trinitarian doctrine was invented by the Roman Empire (Nicene Council, 325 CE) based on the writings of Paul.

ANY cult that follows the Jesus is God myth is following Paul, not Jesus.

The passages related to Jesus being God (the "Trinity") were demonstrably forged:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Historical_Account_of_Two_Notable_Corruptions_of_Scripture

Triinitarian "Christians" are not "Christians" at all. They are Paulists. Their ignorance of the history of their own doctrine does not alter that fact.


Comment to cjunk (above):

Great links. Worth the read for anyone, regardless what he believes.

2006-08-04 22:15:40 · answer #1 · answered by Left the building 7 · 0 3

I believe that may be true that, i just dont think it has to be Paul that done it.
I think it would have been start by greek philosophers. But has been perverted. Book of mathew copies some 600 of Marks original 666 verses and perverts what mark says.
Book of Mark has no resurection.
Here is another reason why it wouldnt be considered that paul is the founder, Paul knows nothing of a virgin birth, Mary and Joseph, old testament prophecies, Never mentions anything jesus apparently said, Non of christs miracles, If Jesus was not a myth, no one told Paul.
Paul doesnt place the crucifiction,burial and the resurection On Earth. its all in a mythical realm.(quite common back then)
so you see.... Pauls doctorines have nothing to do with modern christianity(nor its recent history).
Pauls writings predate all the other writers, even the gospels.
Acts contradicts Pauls version of his own conversion

anyway. there is so much more than can be said....
ill leave it to others, be it christian or atheist..... the truth can be gotten.

Jesus was a myth. Like all the other dying and rising Gods of the pagans. Jesus was meant be to the Jews, what uncle sam is meant to be for americans.(slightly different in character though)

merry christmass

2006-08-04 22:15:17 · answer #2 · answered by CJunk 4 · 0 1

First of all, Paul was not the founder. If you were to claim any other founder than Jesus, you would have to claim Peter. Paul started off persecuting Christians.

Secondly, your claim has no validity at all. Christianity's claim that Jesus was divine is not some blend of Roman mythology. First, if you understand Christianity and understand the mythology of that time, you will understand than any similarities are very superficial, and did not ring similar to anyone holding to either belief. Secondly, every gospel (even the so called "lost gospels") make a claim to Christ's deity, showing that Jesus himself made claim to deity. Every story we have of Christ says that he claimed to be God. Most of the gospel writers stayed in Jerusalem, where Paul had very little influence.

2006-08-04 22:16:58 · answer #3 · answered by Serving Jesus 6 · 0 0

It's true that Paul was the real founder of Christianity. History and the Bible tells us that Christ did not preach a new religion. In that sense, Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism. As Jesus says in the Bible --- Think not that I have come to destroy the law and the Prophets, I have come not to destroy but to confirm.... But Paul was actually trying to propagate Jesus' ideas ( whether honestly or not is a different question altogether). This is why he used the term Christianity. After all, who would follow Paul if he would name the religion with his own name.

2006-08-04 22:11:37 · answer #4 · answered by HMK 1 · 0 1

I really like this question. Yes, St. Paul is the very founder of the christian faith and not the gospel-jesus.
The gospels was not written by Paul nor did he have the chance to read the gospels. The oldest textual proof concerning the resurrection of the christ comes from paul and not the gospels. in fact the oldest manuscripts of the gospels (MArk) doesn't mention the resurrecton at all. Instead the story about the resurrection was added to the gospel's much more later.

2006-08-04 22:06:54 · answer #5 · answered by neshama 5 · 0 1

The entire Old Testament describes Jesus, the God man. Jesus pointed that out to his disciples. They didn't need Paul to do it.

Paul's training as a Pharisee certainly allowed him to grasp the true meaning of the scriptures, probably the very moment he encountered the risen Christ on the road to Damascus.

Paul was a real live wire. He wrote.He traveled. He preached. He baptized. He ordained.

But the source of his power was certainly God's grace, and his most ardent supporter was Jesus, the one who "recruited" him for the job.

All the other disciples were convinced that Jesus was God because of the way he conducted himself, because he did miracles and fulfilled prophecy, because of the effect he had on others, and BECAUSE JESUS CLAIMED TO BE GOD AND HE NEVER LIED TO ANYONE.

After his resurrection, any remaining doubts were gone, so no one needed Paul to point all this out to them.

2006-08-05 01:02:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The same reason Islam isn't called Mohammedism.

Whoever said Jesus founded Christianity is an idiot. He did no such thing, and it's not even hinted at in the Bible. The religion (that is, worshipping Jesus as the son of God) didn't really begin until at least 50 years after his death and had little to do with him or the disciples.

2006-08-04 22:04:42 · answer #7 · answered by Entwined 5 · 0 1

That's funny, then why does John's gospel have about 40 statements of the divinity of Christ? Notably "ego eimi..."

I see something claiming that the oldest MSS of the gospels is of Mark??? That's funny, I hadn't heard of any manuscript being found older than the Rylands fragment of John, the oldest extant New Testament manuscript.

For HMK, you quote Matt 5:17 as "Think not that I have come to destroy the law and the Prophets, I have come not to destroy but to confirm." Confirm is NOT A VALID TRANSLATION of plerosai, the Word in the Greek Text. It is the infinitive form of pleroo, which is defined as "to fulfill, make full or in the passive, to be filled, full, complete." The traditional translation in the passage is "fulfill." Once fulfilled, "the law and the prophets" were no longer in effect. They were intended ONLY to bring us to that point.

2006-08-04 22:07:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Paul did not form Christianity, Jesus did.

2006-08-04 22:01:06 · answer #9 · answered by 0110010100 5 · 1 0

Christianity started with Jesus, the Christ. Paul was simply a messenger, who spread the Good News

2006-08-04 22:50:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Christianity was not founded by Paul. Maybe Catholicism but not Christianity. Christ is the founder of Christianity. Christianity is simply a group of worshipers who follow Christ. I think you are thinking that Paul is the founder of Catholicism which is considered Christianity today, but under the umbrella of groups who are considered Christians, the Catholic doctrine is totally different from the other groups. For example, I am a Christian because I follower the teachings of Jesus Christ, but I am Baptist, and my followings and studies differ significantly from those that are taught in the Catholic faith. I disagree with the Catholic doctrine, but we are both considered Christian groups in society, although we have major differences in our beliefs.

2006-08-04 22:17:27 · answer #11 · answered by Crazy lady 3 · 0 1

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