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Ok, God is not responsible for our sin. Because he gave us freewill.
But didn't he know beforehand that I will do a particular sin in
the future? He knows everything and is powerful over everything.
Ok, if he knows that I will do some particular thing in the future--then it implies that by his knowing my action --the action itself become predetermined.So, is there another God who fixed the predetermined action. How can then it be a FREE WILL?
when something is bound to happen it is fixed not free.

2006-08-04 17:17:02 · 32 answers · asked by RAIHAN J 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

answer to Mike:
predetermination nullifies free-will--you are not free to choose when your action is predetermined and so-- fixed.

2006-08-04 17:24:29 · update #1

answer to sldgman00:
it's because your knowledge is limited in nature.
God's knowledge cannot be erronous.
poor logic.

2006-08-04 17:30:47 · update #2

answer to Mr. Mister:
common sense. if God knows everything and have power over everything--then the concept of predetermination comes without any trouble.
otherwise your God lacks his Godliness.

2006-08-04 17:32:45 · update #3

answer to Exodus 20:1-17:
poor logic. you are not God--so you can see the accident but have no power to prevent it. also, because it is an accident--it occured without any cause???
it's the atheist's logic--the UNIVERSE didn't need any cause to come to existence. why r u using it?

2006-08-04 17:35:57 · update #4

32 answers

I love the analogy of the parade. Imagine you are in your little helicopter and see that all the people in parade are slowly pushing the people in front of them off an unseen cliff to their doom. You know it's going to happen, but choose to allow people to choose to go forward.

It's wonderful that God gave us free will so we can send ourselves to Hell!

2006-08-04 17:39:09 · answer #1 · answered by starcow 4 · 0 0

Very simply, GOD knows our actions before they happen. However, HE does not make them happen. Here is a simple analogy: Let's say I was riding in a helicopter. Let's, also, say that a car is on the wrong side of the road and is making a sharp turn onto a corner. There happens to be another car coming on the other side of the corner. The two cars collide.

Now, from the vantage point in the helicopter, I was able to "see" the accident coming because I saw the two cars from the helicopter.

Just because GOD saw it happen, doesn't mean that there are some people who's fate is sealed from their birth. They have every opportunity to come to know GOD.

2006-08-04 17:32:06 · answer #2 · answered by Exodus 20:1-17 6 · 0 0

Simple, just because God "can" know something doesn't mean he does or chooses too.

Also, he's not omniscient, he doesn't have to be. That's why he has the class known as "Watcher" angels, TO WATCH. These angels do not sleep and keep constant vigil on their jobs, whether it be Nations (as guardians) or sections of forest, people, or areas. They are to return to God and report to him. Just as it says in the Book of Daniel, when Michael held off for weeks the Prince of Greece (and when Daniel was written Greece wouldn't EVEN EXIST for another 200 years!) so, they obviously travel thru time also. Yet we see here, that Michael as Guardian of the People of Israel was holding off the Guadian of Greece for some reason. Why? No one knows, and it doesn't matter or God would have said. That's Heavenly business, not ours.

The point is, just like in the Garden of Eden, while God doesn't CHOOSE to know certain things, like whether we will fall or not, HE CAN PLAN for them. The first "promise of Christ coming to die for us," is in Genesis 3:15 (yes, that close to the FRONT of the Bible) where God promises Satan (the old serpent) that he will be bruised in the head (left in spiritual darkness) and that Christ (the Son of Man) will be Killed (and left dead for 3 days) and rise to greater Glory. So, while God was HOPING we had better sense, WE DID NOT!

Also, "its not bound to happen just because IT CAN." Not when "free will" is involved. Its just like your parents giving the kids the car on a Friday nite. They "taught" they the best they could, they raised them to respect their elders and remember that the car is not a toy. They know that a car can be dangerous, so NOW its in the hands of the children.

WHAT WILL THEY DO? Well . . . that's up to them, isn't it?

In order to make us "free agents" that's the trust God gave us, and we kinda screwed up. Luckily, he had a plan already . . .

2006-08-04 18:27:43 · answer #3 · answered by AdamKadmon 7 · 0 0

God knows everything, but nothing is predetermined. We make choices everyday and God has no control over them. God gave us the gift of free will allowing us to struggle with right and wrong.

2006-08-04 17:25:15 · answer #4 · answered by puma 6 · 0 0

Of course God knows what we will we do. But that doesn't mean he actually controls or decides what we will do. He chose to give us that control, the same way parents choose to let their kid learn to ride a bike. Of course that kid will fall down and hurt themselves, the same way we make the wrong decisions and abuse the free will which God gave us. But in both cases the result is that we or that kid learn something which is worth the pain involved. Besides, God chose not to force us to love him. The fact that we could choose not to, makes it mean a lot more when someone does decide to follow God.

2006-08-04 17:26:52 · answer #5 · answered by sparrowhawk13147 2 · 0 0

Because even if the sin is "predetermined" it is suppossedly your free will that allows you choose that sin. It helps to think of the "predetermination" as just how you will make the decision when the time comes.

2006-08-04 17:22:11 · answer #6 · answered by Mike 3 · 0 0

Think of it like this. If you play a video game like SIMs for example. Your little character is controlled by you yet has a mind of it's own and the consequences carry it through the game to determine the outcome. Is anyone knowing what that little character doing more than you? Didn't you ever decide that next time I play that game I will try this approach with my character. Then go, Hey Ididn't wan it to do that! Man! Well I think life is kinda like that.

2006-08-04 17:25:48 · answer #7 · answered by JENNLUPE 4 · 0 0

Well, there's free will, but not in the sense that determinism is wrong. And even given free will, God IS responsible for our actions, because as an omnipotent entity he can give us free will WITHOUT giving us sin. Otherwise he's not omnipotent.

2006-08-04 17:21:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Your life, in the eyes of God, is not preordained. The notion of "destiny" is not a product of christianity. That's like saying that christianity and astrology are one and the same. Astrologists talk about destiny. God gives you free will to make your own choices and requires you take responsibility for those choices.

2006-08-04 17:25:35 · answer #9 · answered by Susan O 3 · 0 0

Imagine standing on a corner of the street and watching a parade go by. As each part passes, you see it. That is your life as you see it each day. But now imagine that you are up in a helicopter and hovering above the parade. Now you can see each part of the parade from beginning to end, and all at once. That is how God sees your life. He sees the days of your whole life at one instant. God knows we are going to sin. God knew that before he created us. He made provisions for it. We are here to learn, grow, evolve, and love. http://taobarbie.com

2006-08-04 17:27:43 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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