Why do people say there wont be a rapture, because it's not in the bible.?

Question

When He says “come up hither”, in Revelation 4:1. But you can't find the word "rapture" in the Bible? Ah, but I can in the Catholic Bible. In the Latin Vulgate by Jerome who when he got to I Thessalonians 4:17 talks about the dead in Christ rising first and then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up with the dead to meet the Lord in the air. And there he used the word “rapiamore” – which is “raptured”. BUT THE SECOND COMING AND RAPTURE ONLY CAN HAPPEN AFTER THE YEAR 2000, WHY?...BECAUSE...GOD CREATED THE WORLD IN 6 DAYS AND RESTED ON THE SEVENTH, A DAY IN GODS EYES IS LIKE A THOUSAND YEARS...WHICH MEANS THAT CHRIST WILL RETURN AFTER 6 DAYS OR 6 THOUSAND YEARS...FROM ADAM UNTIL CHRIST- FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OR 4 DAYS
CHRIST TO YEAR 2000- TWO THOUSAND YEARS OR 2 DAYS
SO THAT WOULD EQUAL 6 DAYS AND COULD GO ANYWHERE FROM THE YEAR 2000- 20012..And the final year of the millennial week would be the 1000 year reign of Christ with the saints..= THE 7TH DAY OR 7,000 YEARS

So the 2nd coming and rapture couldn't have happened until after the year 2000...just try and prove me wrong otherwise...email me if you "think the that nothing that the bible says has come true"

Answer 1

"Then Jesus told them another story: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who planted good seed in his field. That night, when everyone was asleep, his enemy came and planted weeds among the wheat and then left. Later, the wheat sprouted and the heads of grain grew, but the weeds also grew. Then the man's servants came to him and said, 'You planted good seed in your field. Where did the weeds come from?' The man answered, 'An enemy planted weeds.' The servants asked, 'Do you want us to pull up the weeds?' The man answered, 'No, because when you pull up the weeds, you might also pull up the wheat. Let the weeds and the wheat grow together until the harvest time. At harvest time I will tell the workers, "First gather the weeds and tie them together to be burned. Then gather the wheat and bring it to my barn." Then Jesus told another story: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that a man planted in his field. That seed is the smallest of all seeds, but when it grows, it is one of the largest garden plants. It becomes big enough for the wild birds to come and build nests in its branches." Then Jesus told another story: "The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and hid in a large tub of flour until it made all the dough rise." Jesus used stories to tell all these things to the people; he always used stories to teach them. This is as the prophet said: "I will speak using stories; I will tell things that have been secret since the world was made." Then Jesus left the crowd and went into the house. His followers came to him and said, "Explain to us the meaning of the story about the weeds in the field." Jesus answered, "The man who planted the good seed in the field is the Son of Man. The field is the world, and the good seed are all of God's children who belong to the kingdom. The weeds are those people who belong to the Evil One. And the enemy who planted the bad seed is the devil. The harvest time is the end of the world, and the workers who gather are God's angels. "Just as the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all who cause sin and all who do evil. The angels will throw them into the blazing furnace, where the people will cry and grind their teeth with pain. Then the good people will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. You people who can hear me, listen." (Matthew 13:24 - 43 NCV)

According to Jesus, the people of God and the people of the devil will not be seperated untill the end of the world!

Answer 2

Figuring out dates is just wrong. Your are taking pieces of scripture and combining them in places where they were never meant to go together.

To be honest the rapture could have taken place up untill the Jews lost Israel and then once again could have happen since 1948 when they regained Israel.

God never set any other dates for when He would return.

Answer 3

I offer a three step program for your recovery:
1. Learn how to perform a correct exegesis on a passage.
2. Learn that there are things in the bible that are symbolic.
3. Learn that we can not put a time on the second coming.

Answer 4

4:1 is talking to john.
and what you call the rapture is the first Resurrection.

Up to Christ and then down to earth with Christ.

You want to experience it, get a parachute, go up in a plane and bail out. you went up now your coming down.

Answer 5

No man can know the day nor the hour not even the Son on the the Father.(that is in the bible) And please do not try to put God in a box you ,nor anyone else can understand Him so do not waste your time.

Answer 6

Prove you wrong? There is no need.

You haven't proven yourself right.

In the end, you sound like a broken record. Just give it up. You aren't making any converts and any rational person will think you are totaly insane.

Answer 7

I will be raptured the day I die. No Grave for this Spirit. and my Body can't go to heaven , no flesh and blood goes there. its a word kinda like purgatory.

Answer 8

On Jan 1, 2013, after this hasn't happened, will you finally put this nonsense to rest?

Answer 9

Based on the Scriptures below, I believe that the church of God (1 Cor.10:32 below - the saints of the most High, Dan.7:25 below), will face the tribulation under the beasts of Revelation chapter 13.

The "tribulation" will occur between the Sixth SEAL (Re.6:12-17) and the Seventh TRUMPET (1 Thess.4:16-17)..

The Seventh Trumpet (which many refer to as "the Rapture") will occur at the CONCLUSION of the “tribulation”.


1 Cor.10:32Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

Matt.24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Dan. 7:21I beheld, and the same (little) horn (king) MADE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, and prevailed against them (Dan.7:25 below);

Dan.7:25And he (the little horn/king - Dan.7:8, Dan.7:24) shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High (Re.15:3), and think to change times and laws (Re.13:15, Dan.11:31): and they (the saints) shall be given into his hand until A TIME and TIMES and THE DIVIDING OF TIME (3 ½ years/1260 days) .

Dan.8:24And his (the king's - Dan.8:23, little horn's - Dan.8:9, Dan.7:24) power shall be mighty, but not by his own power (but Satan’s - Re.13:11-12): and he shall destroy wonderfully (Re.13:15), and shall prosper, and practice, and SHALL DESTROY THE MIGHTY AND THE HOLY PEOPLE (Dan.12:7 below, Col.1:22, Eph.1:4).

Re.12:17And the DRAGON (Re.12:9, Re.20:2) was wroth with the woman (the church of God - 1 Cor.10:32, Col.1:22, Col.1:24), and WENT TO MAKE WAR WITH THE REMNANT (the rest) OF HER SEED, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Re.13:7And it was given unto him (the beast of Re. 13:1) TO MAKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, AND TO OVERCOME THEM: and (Satanic) power was given him (Re.13:2) over ALL kindreds, and tongues, and nations (Dan.7:23, Re.17:15).

Re.13:15 And he (another beast coming up out of the earth, Re.13:11) had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as WOULD NOT WORSHIP the IMAGE of the beast SHOULD BE KILLED .

Re.16:6For they (those who had the mark of the beast, and those who worshipped his image) have shed the blood of SAINTS and PROPHETS, and thou hast given them blood to drink (Re.16:4); for they are worthy. (of this punishment)

Re.17:6And I saw the woman (that great city Babylon - Re.17:5) drunken with the blood of the SAINTS (Dan.7:21, Re.13:7, Re.13:15, Re.11:7), and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus (Re.18:24): and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Dan.12:6-7And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the END of these wonders?

And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for A TIME, TIMES, AND AN HALF (3 ½ years or 1260 days); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people (Dan.8:24, Re.11:3, Re.11:7), all these things shall be FINISHED (Re.10:7).



Pat (ndbpsa ©)

Answer 10

The original does not say that. Or as you call it "the old testament"

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