How can destiny or fate exists when quantum mechanics outlaws all certainty?

Question

Hmmm...evidence of a not-so omnipotent God...maybe...

Meko: Without it you would not be able to type your idiocy on this forum. Welcome to the 21st century...

Sean: That is m-theory. It is a very new theory, and has much room for debate.

Answer 1

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle is not really part of most religious people's world view, and is generally misunderstood by those who have heard of it in any case.

If a God exists, then that God cannot be omnipotent or omniscient, even if he was before creating the uncertainty principle.

Answer 2

Quantum mechanics is bad science. First, it is only theoretical (experimental results cannot be directly observed, only inferred from other actions/reactions). Second, it is diametrically opposed to relativism, which has observable proofs. Third, no part of quantum mechanics maintains integrity when applied to the infinitely large, like the entire universe, or overlapping universes.

On the contrary, quantum mechanics does define a certainty: that you can't use quantum mechanics to argue a case against destiny!

Answer 3

Well, first of all, we know that quantum mechanics outlaws certainty in the microcosm... but there is no compelling reason to think that it outlaws certainty in the macrocosm. That being said, though, there is also no compelling reason to think that there is such a thing as destiny or fate. But whether there is or there isn't, I think that there is no basis to link it with QM. In other words, your proposed connection seem to be fallacious.

Answer 4

Quantum Mechanics does not outlaw all certainty in anything; it merely opens the door to ask a question to prevent the absolution of science from preventing an unsolvable equation from being solved. Before ‘Quantum Mechanics’ there was no room for ‘what if’ and its inception opened the doors of formerly closed minds to possibilities beyond the known boundaries of the visible world in which we live and it continues to grow as we learn more.

An Example from the link in the source area:
(Work was going on at almost the same time as Bose's which was also of fundamental importance. The doctoral thesis of Louis de Broglie was presented which extended the particle-wave duality for light to all particles, in particular to electrons. Schrödinger in 1926 published a paper giving his equation for the hydrogen atom and heralded the birth of wave mechanics. Schrödinger introduced operators associated with each dynamical variable.
The year 1926 saw the complete solution of the derivation of Planck's law after 26 years. It was solved by Dirac. Also in 1926 Born abandoned the causality of traditional physics. Speaking of collisions Born wrote
“One does not get an answer to the question, What is the state after collision? but only to the question, How probable is a given effect of the collision? From the standpoint of our quantum mechanics, there is no quantity which causally fixes the effect of a collision in an individual event.”

Heisenberg wrote his first paper on quantum mechanics in 1925 and 2 years later stated his uncertainty principle. It states that the process of measuring the position x of a particle disturbs the particle's momentum p, so that Dx Dp = h/2π where Dx is the uncertainty of the position and Dp is the uncertainty of the momentum. Here h is Planck's constant and is usually called the 'reduced Planck's constant'. Heisenberg states that the nonvalidity of rigorous causality is necessary and not just consistently possible.)

This shows a small fragment of the effects of Quantum Mechanics and instead of outlawing all certainty it opens up a much larger door to the question of this: Where are all who ignore God and Christ going to spend eternity if their science is flawed and it is faith instead of science which sets the basis for the ultimate answer to the ultimate question?

The discussion on Quantum Mechanics can and will go on until the end of time; instead of trying to use a scientific tool used to create another path to the truth of all things and which questions itself, ask the Creator of everything for yourself. He is waiting for your call and is waiting right now to answer your every question if you ask in sincerity through Christ Jesus with an open mind and heart.

Answer 5

Wait, quantum mechanics outlaws ALL certainty? So you're saying that it is certain that there is no certainty!? 2 pts!

Answer 6

Most professors of quantum physics actually believe in God.

Quantum Physics also says there are multiple universes simultaneously existing. And ours began from the membrane between them bumping against each other.

Quantum also says anything is possible at anytime and everything at the same time. Is all relative to the observer.

Answer 7

kind like taking a flying leap of irrationality, like saying a quantum fluctuation made everythign we see out of nothing, no place and no time. a fluctuation is in something not nuthin

kinda like pullin a rabbit outta the hat with no rabbit with no hat and with no magician and... I am just amazed the leaps of irrationality some naturalist take with this big bang thing

dont be surprized if in this century the big bang is abandoned

Answer 8

Mutually exclusive, so the question has no relevance.

Both are unproved concepts and don't HAVE to co exist. And please, don't insult our intelligence by trying to tell me that the uncertainlty principle, or for that matter ANY quatum theory has been proven.

I can give you plenty of anecdotal evidence that life is preordained. I don't believe that, but I can still show you "proof" of God, karma, and predestination.

Answer 9

Nice dream but let's be real...that's never going to happen. There are other ways to prevent sexually transmitted diseases. And you seem to be suggesting that only "true" Christians wait until marriage - people of other religions do as well, you know.

Answer 10

No no no... Destiny and fate exist, but only in a past-tense...it's what ever happens, but you don't know till after it does. lol But without a deity though. ; )