previous question had me thinking ... Christians help please ?

Question

if jesus did die for our sins .. yet we still sin .. and will be judged on those sins .... what did he die for ??

please know this is asked respectfully to help me understand so good answers appreciated xx

Answer 1

Wait.

The thing is when we repent from our sins and turn our lives to God he helps us live a holy life.
He forgets all of the sins we have committed. And gives us salvation. He died for our sins. No one can say they have never sinned (Roman3.23) so he died for all of our sins.

Answer 2

That's a really great question. I think a complete answer would be too lengthy here but I'll share my thoughts.

Jesus did pay the penalty for our sins, but he didn't take away the consequences. There are earthly consequences; for example if I commit adultery and repent, my sin can be forgiven but my mistress may still have a child and I'd have to deal with the consequences of that sin.

If you're talking about heaven, I think it's similar but not the same. If this world doesn't really affect our lives in heaven, then why would God spend so much time in the bible telling us how to live here on earth? I'm not so sure we're just automatically changed to a completely different person once we die. For example if we don't really like singing and praising God here on earth, we shouldn't necessarily expect God to completely change that in us. I can't explain how, but I think the judgement you're refering to is related to that. We aren't punished, but we may not get all the rewards or enjoy heaven as much as someone else.

Does that make sense?

Answer 3

hi there - i believe the theology goes like this: Adam and eve were created in perfection and given a paradise to live in. In the garden were two forbidden trees - the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

One day eve (or is that just a catholic rendition as they fear the female) scoffed from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and became aware. God said that now they had a choice and before they could munch the fruit of immortality, they had to learn to choose good over what was easy and therefore they could no longer live in paradise and had to go work for a living. What doesnt kill u makes u stronger etc is good for the growth of the spirit.

However, he had to give them some hope of reaching eternity as lets face it, humans will make mistakes. God is perfection and cannot sin, he therefore cannot allow us into heaven or his presence if we have sinned. We need a lawyer or a bailbondsman.

He asked who would volunteer, and satan said i will go and make em all good and none will be lost. God pointed out that the whole point was to allow us to choose,and to choose with wisdom we will make mistakes - thats how we grow. They argued and satan got the big kick. Jesus then offered to be our intermediary. He lived as a man, yet did not sin, fulfilling all the commandments that god had set. In doing so, he alone broke the bond of death and entered heaven.

As a perfect example, he alone could take on the consequences of our mistakes and he chose to do so. The suffering in gethsemane was him, a man who did not sin who had never felt guilt and remorse, feeling the weight of the burden of sin. Have u ever felt guilty over something u wish u had not done and vowed never to do it again? Some guilt is pain, and the anquish of it nearly broke him.
So if we sincerely repent, and understand that jesus has paid the price for the sins we will commit - because no-one can live on earth without falling far short of what is necessary to enter into the presence of god, then jesus will intervene and make up the difference.
Thats how i understand it. And i dont go to church. Practising christians will probably have a far different view on matters.

Answer 4

Jesus is a bonafide representative of the Supreme Absolute, therefore he is empowered to release his followers from the reactions to sinfull activities, but firstly they have to be sane, if someone commits murder and the authorities come to arrest him, then he tells them to arrest his protector for the crime, then continues to perform the same activity, that is madness, a real disciple will say "let me stop these sinfull activities".

Of course it is understood that there will always be faults commited on the road toward perfection, if these faults are genuinely acknowledged by the individual then certainly absolution is granted, but if the individual continues to use the mercy of Jesus to continue sinfull activity, then the reactions will still come, you cannot cheat the Supreme authority and Jesus is a bona fide representative of the Supreme authority, therefore they are one in purpose.

God sometimes comes himself to attract us back home to the spiritual world and sometimes he sends his son or representative, depending on time and circumstance, the representative says "love my father" and the father says "love me", so the message is the same and is the objective of Spiritual life.

Jesus was sent here to deliver the pure message of God consciousness, but the non devotees crucified him,still he is so kind and tolerant, that he asked his Father to forgive them for their ignorance, that is his mercy and why we worship Lord Jesus as a bonafide representative of the Father.

So, another example is that if any individual is in a loving relationship with another person and there are minor misunderstandings, it does not affect the quality of the relationship, because the two people are one in love and an allowance is made, for the minor faults that occur during the development of that relationship. However if the person you are sharing the relationship with is blatently exploiting your love, then the conclusion will be different.

If we can determine the difference in quality, how much more is this true of God or his empowered representative, not that the Father stops loving his wayward son, he hates the sin not the sinner, which means rectification is required and the mercy is withdrawn, due to a lack of sincerety and blatant misuse of free will.

To discuss further:-Sriman Sankarshan Das Adhikari ([e-mail])

Answer 5

The bible says that we should not sin, but if we do, we have an advocate in Jesus Christ.

Becoming a Christian doesn't mean you will never sin again. All sins are forgiven.

This doesn't mean you can go out and live any way you like...that is taking advantage of God's grace. A true, born again Christian will desire to live a righteous life. When we sin, the holy spirit convicts us. We repent, and ask God to forgive us.

That doesn't mean you have to sit down and apologize for every thing wrong you do every day! It's an attitude of the heart, and God knows this...if we desire to live as He wants us to; even when we fail.

Answer 6

Adam Commited High Treason and messed-up his Spirit, and passed that Messed-up Spirit to Everybody else.
People got SAVED by the Old Testament.
Then, JESUS Died on the Cross so that we could be SAVED by the New Testament, which is Confessing JESUS as LORD and Believing GOD Raised HIM from the Dead----which is Basically the same as Asking JESUS to Come into your HEART(Spirit) and SAVE (Recreate you, a Spirit) you.

Getting your Sin's Forgiven, After you are SAVED, over and over again, get's you a Closer Walk with GOD, helps GOD keep some of the Reaping what you have Sowed down, and get's you more Blessed on this EARTH.

Getting your Spirit RECREATED (Born-Again) get's you into HEAVEN Later.

Getting your Sin's Forgiven(over and over) get's you Blessed as much as GOD can Bless you on this EARTH.

Answer 7

Jesus' sinless life and sin-bearing death was accepted by God the Father as a perfect sacrifice for all of our sins. Romans 3:23 tells us that we are all sinners. Yet, to those who choose to put their faith in Christ, their sins are forgiven. The righteousness that Christ earned is imputed to the faithful. Believers will inherit the kingdom of God and salvation. The life of a believer is a life of sanctification, where the Holy Spirit with and without our response ministers to and molds our lives to become ever more Christlike.

Answer 8

Jesus did die in our place and those of us who have accepted him are guaranteed eternal life with Him. That is a relational thing ie you may reject Jesus but you will always belong to Him, you can't change that once it's been done. However there is a judgment day and we will face judgment just like everyone else, the difference is where we go after judgment. We will have rewards in Heaven according to how we lived here on earth and responsibilities suitable for us, it says in the bible, he was faithful with much on earth will be trusted with much in heaven. The best book I ever read to explain this was The Shock of Your Life. Read it and be shocked!

Answer 9

Hi pangel,

Jesus died to pay the price for our sins. When he breathed his last breath on the cross he said, It is finished (elai, elai, ... in Aramaic). It is a term meaning finalized. Jesus completely paid for our sins on the cross. So when believers come face to face with Jesus they will not be judged for their sins- Jesus already paid the price for it.

Believers will face a judgment where they must give an account of how faithful they have been with the gifts they've been entrusted with. We will have to give an account for what we've done with what Jesus has given us.

Hope that helps.. thanks for your sincere and gentle tone...

Be Blessed,

Nickster

Answer 10

Back in Biblical time, the people had to sacrifice once a year for their sins. Jesus, when he was crucified, was the ultimate sacrifice. SO that we may not have to sacrifice anymore, but just repent. THank you God and thank you, Jesus!

Answer 11

We do not want to sin against God because he loves us so much, so the Christian has a daily struggle with our sinful nature. The apostle Paul had this same struggle as every Christian does.

Romans 7: 21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!

Because we have faith we have in Jesus, God forgives our sin.
By faith in Jesus, we have washed our sinful robes in Jesus blood making us holy and blameless before God.

Revelation 7:And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.