The serial shooters in Phoenix, Arizona are not Mexican, and infact have Anglo surnames? The two suspects have shot over 30 people with 6 known deaths. I would like to hear from the anti-illegal camp who think only the mexicans commit crimes.
2006-08-04
06:14:20
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The immigration category has always referred to illegals as criminals and has in fact made an issue of the high crime index contribution of mexican illegals. This is a serious, serious offense, don't be coy, Mr. Guitar.
2006-08-04
06:26:38 ·
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But I can BETyou are disappointed,Sealrborder, that they are not Mexican!!!!!!!!! It doesn't matter how you paint it now; the worst crimes are not against fornicating with dogs; 6 people are dead and many wounded for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2006-08-04
06:31:49 ·
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Yars, your conttribution to this discussion is far to ignorant to even warrant a response.
2006-08-04
06:39:45 ·
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Yars, your contribution to this discussion is far too ignorant to warrant a response.
2006-08-04
06:40:59 ·
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draciron, denial, denial, denail, this must be your worldly philosophy, or outlook on life! It doesn't matter, they are not Mexican illegals or Arpaio would have brought out the pink panties!
2006-08-04
06:44:58 ·
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Gokart, it's asked in this category for the same reason all the other dumb scenarios (from Kubrickian imposter) show up in this category. It's here because this where Mexican bashing takes place by the anti-illegal camp.
2006-08-04
07:41:31 ·
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Sashie, read Sqwirlsgirl's answer, she is right on...nothing more, nothing less. This question does not preclude the legalites of American law, just the prejudice and racist crap that goes on here.
2006-08-04
07:56:36 ·
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OK, Joe/Guitar, call it as you "like" because you are having a hard time with my view; bottom line is you and your clique thoroughly enjoy your blasting responses (the glee transcends cyberspace!) when your post references a crime committed by an illegal, excepting the crime of crossing the border. Don't change the subject on this question. You need to ask our Congress your question...which answer we already have: THEY don't give a rat's damn! American caucasians being the serial shooter/killers does not make it a national anthem!
2006-08-04
08:27:53 ·
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Hi Gidget! Be my guest! Yeah! I'm glad you can see thru these transparent people, who all along attibute most crime in Arizona to the illegals and now that that the tables have been turned, they find themselves in an uncomfortable predicament!
2006-08-04
08:34:26 ·
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why do some ppl imply that if illegals weren't here in the first place, crimes wouldn't be committed.. Those are the stupidest comments i've ever heard. Most Crimes are done by LEGAL citizens or residents. PPL are so stupid to think that those crimes wouldn't of been done if illegals weren't here in the first place.
2006-08-04 06:57:17
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answered by sly 4
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Ah but did you make sure they were actually White? Many Hispanics, Most Blacks and many Natives have Anglo surnames. Then again they might be of mixed race.
That they have an Anglo surname does not mean they are not an illegal imigrant. We have quite a few Irish and Canadian illegals here.
Not sure where you found somebody claiming that Imigrants comit all crimes. There is something to the crime allegations about illegal imigrants. Legal imigrants have a slighterly higher than average crime rate but that is because they are more likely to be poor, the poor are much more likely to comit a crime. Ignorance of American laws contributes as well.
Illegals that is a whole different story. A Russian, at least 2 Hispanic, a Vietmese and a Chinese gang that I am aware of are some of our biggest crime syndicates today. They are comprised amost entirely of illegals of those nationalities. What many people are claiming is the biggest gang in America today was formed around illegals from El Salvador primarily. Today it has Illegals from all over South America and many American born citizens.
So crime is a big issue with illegal imigration. A non-issue with legal imigration.
2006-08-04 06:31:54
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answered by draciron 7
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Yeah, I live in Phoenix, and the story on these monsters is all over the news right now. In this forum it is a constant that, while there are many other illegal nationalities, this forum has a field day laughing and taunting the pro-amnesty side, (who wants secure borders as well) with remarks against the Mexican illegals being behind the crimes of our area especially.
Sheriff Arpaio makes a big deal about his tent jails, but we never hear on a local, regional, nor national level about the veteran fire department official in Gilbert, Arizona (suburb of Phoenix, full of minutemen-like mentality residents), who was caught in an act of bestiality with a sheep. (This forum only cares if it's a Mexican and a dog ). Those kind of crimes, as incomprehensible as they may be, never make the news, nor the immigration category because Sealrborder ignores the crime against sheep (not to be confused with a dog) by firefighers. lol
The point being that calling the kettle black because they are legal Americans committing crimes, making it less of a moral issue, is where I take issue with the answer from Sealrborder in this instance. It's never ok to commit any crime, by a legal or illegal resident. To "let it go" and blow it off as a crime committed by a legal, sounds like she and Yars think that's ok. Why aren't you laughing now?
2006-08-04 07:37:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Hey, get real ... I haven't heard anyone on this board seriously claiming that all Mexican illegals are serial killers ... what's your point? The Mexican illegals who are here are to a man law breakers whether you admit it or not ... some are indeed what you would call REAL criminals, into drugs, prostitution and gangs ... is your point really that because we have a lot of Caucasian legal scumbags in this country, we should somehow forget that the illegal aliens are here illegally? Weird logic ....
2006-08-04 07:41:35
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answered by Sashie 6
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I have never seen anyone here say that only mexicans commit crimes...
EDIT: Well ALL illegal ARE criminals....I was addressing your totally unsubstantiated claim that anti -illegals think that "only" mexicans commit crimes. You cannot deny saying that...it is written right there. Furthermore...Which do you believe is greater?...The number of crimes committed in mexico by Americans or the number of crimes committed in America by mexicans? Chew on that one for awhile and get back to me.
You still haven't shown any links to anyone saying that "only" mexicans commit crimes. Can you do it please? By the way. The way you are using the deaths of innocent people to try to shine a better light on illegal immigration is gross to say the least.
I have actually stayed on topic in addressing your spurious claim that some here say that "only" mexicans commit crimes. You seem to be using the deaths of innocent people as a tool. Every thing I have said is TRUE. ALL illegals are criminals...yes..thats right...ALL of them..and you take the actions of two deranged killers as part of your arsenal of protection of illegals?...It is this type of "bottom feeder" mentality that doesn't allow any "real" defense of illegal aliens. How fortunate for you that two sick men were killing indiscriminately..otherwise you wouldn't have had anything to say.
2006-08-04 06:21:32
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answered by joeandhisguitar 6
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Ok, I get where you're coming from...you are entitled to your feeling and opinion...while it could be true the majority of the regulars here take advantage of the current issue to get their name calling out of the way against illegals, the fact is that serial killers are predominately white. Think there's been one latino, the famous Night Stalker. That could be the case for the one still not caught.
The sad side of affairs is the reality of the facts. All the affected families and the people who had to die in my city because of these horrendous people. God help us all until the last one gets caught no matter what origin.
2006-08-04 15:57:26
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answered by Phoenix 2
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I seriously doubt that anyone every claimed that illegal aliens were the suspect. If you read the articles that were printed, they claimed that the shooting serial killers were probably white... The BASELINE KILLER is suspected of being of a Hispanic orgin and is still not caught. HOWEVER... It could be a disguise and this one the *Baseline Killer* IS STILL not caught and could be Caucasian too. Jeez. Get the killers right. If you don't live in Arizona, don't worry about it or get your facts straight. I realize that may be a problem, but try. Race card mania at its worst.
2006-08-04 14:14:30
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answered by Anonymous
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I think I know which people on this website you are referring to and yes, according to them all crime in Arizona is by illegals. These are the same people that will forget to mention that Timothy McVey was an American.
2006-08-04 06:28:30
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answered by Salem 5
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I just saw it, both of em caucasians...and no I don't think only mexicans commit crimes. Furthermore, illegal immigration is a problem that's been going on for years, the story in Phoenix is not related to it. Why do you even put it in the immigration forum?
Illegal immigration is against the law, it's pretty simple.
2006-08-04 06:54:12
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answered by gokart121 6
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Well they will twist it around and say that they arent' Americans and are a bad example. That they don't represent Americans in any way. What about the snipers in the washington DC area some time ago, were they illegals too? I don't think so.
2006-08-04 06:22:38
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answered by Anonymous
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HMMMM...........is this Sheriff Joe country?
I wonder what he is doing *Sqwirl whispers to Contessa probably in his office with the door shut wearing a pair of those pink underwear (and nothing else) he likes to brag about... shooting a water pistol at a giant poster of a Mexican illegal.....yelling "TAKE THAT......TAKE THAT", and wondering when he can call another press conference.*
But to finally answer.........I find it sad that there are any "serial shooters" and hate to use this horrendous act as a "feather in my cap" to highlight these people prejudices.
2006-08-04 07:50:43
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answered by sqwirlsgirl 5
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