In Revelation 21:27 it plainly says "Nothing Unclean Shall Enter Heaven. It stands to reason then, without some form of final purging, we would have to die in an absolutely perfect state of grace. Any taint of sin at all would then cause us to go to Hell.
In 2 Samuel 12:13-14 we see where King David sinned with Bathsheba. He was forgiven of the sin but still had to pay a punishment for it.
1 Corinthians 3:15 says a man will suffer loss, but still be saved as through fire.
1 Peter 3:18-20 Jesus preaches to the spirits in prison (Not Hell)
Jesus also took the ones in Sheol (holding place) with him when he ascended out.
Matthew 12:32 Sin against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven IN THIS AGE OR THE NEXT. This age or next? What does that mean?
There is plenty of basis in scripture for purgatory if you know how to read it.
2006-08-04 05:31:39
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answered by Augustine 6
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Mere reason suggests there must be a Purgatory. So many people seem to be good, but not so greatly good that they should be fit for heaven at once. Again, not nearly all are so evil as to deserve hell. So there should be a means of purification and paying the debt of temporal punishment for those not fit for hell, nor for heaven at once. (Of course Luther would say we can sin all we want and still go to heaven at once, if only we believe it is all covered by Christ's merits: Epistle 501 to Melanchthon).
There is not much in Scripture on Purgatory except that in Second Maccabees 12:45, Judas sends a collection to the Temple for those fallen in battle, found with amulets on, "that they might be freed from this sin." Luther saw so clearly that this referred to Purgatory--which he rejected--that he rejected this book too, declaring it not part of Scripture. Some have tried to see an implication of Purgatory in Matthew 12:32. There Jesus speaks of the sin against the Holy Spirit that will be forgiven "neither in this world nor in the next." But the expression quoted is known in Rabbinic literature, where it means merely "never." Still less could we deduce purgatory from First Corinthians 3:11-15. Paul means if the work of some Christian worker has been of such low quality that it burns down, he himself will be saved "as through fire." But the fire seems to mean the apocalyptic fire of the last day, not a fire of purgatory.
But our belief in Purgatory rests on the tradition and definitions of the Church, at the Councils of Lyons II, Florence, and Trent.
The essential, perhaps the only suffering of Purgatory is the loss of God--it is like what we described in speaking of hell, except that in Purgatory there is no despair, rather, great consolation from assurance of salvation. Is there also something like fire in Purgatory? A host of private apparitions say there is; the Church has never pronounced on it. In fact the Eastern part of the Catholic Church has no such tradition. Many theologians say the suffering is greater than anything on earth. Neither Scripture nor Tradition tells us if that be so.
We do know that the souls there cannot merit or help themselves in any way anymore, they can only suffer. We know we can by prayers and penances relieve them, and somehow, they are enabled to know it when we do that, and they pray for us. How long should we pray and sacrifice for a particular soul? We do not know. St. Augustine in his Confessions (9:13), written 10 to 15 years after the death of his mother, St. Monica, still asked for prayers for her. If we can believe the private apparitions, Purgatory may last the equivalent of many years (we speak thus, for there is no time in Purgatory). For certain, it is terribly wrong to virtually canonize a person at the funeral, as Protestants do under the influence of Luther's sad mistake. Sadly not a few Catholics are imitating them.
2006-08-04 12:44:56
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answered by Anonymous
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No there is not. If you study the Catholic history, you will find they needed a fund raiser, and this became it. They told people their families were going to purgatory, and if they paid money, it would get them out. That is not found in the Bible. The Bible says you are saved by Grace, not by your families money.
2006-08-04 12:30:47
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answered by natex14 4
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Just like the rapture doctrine, purgatory is not to be found in the bible. This is a doctrine of the catholic church and it is wrong, as most other things involved in catholocism. It is a religion of doctrines and traditions of men that the bible warns about.
2006-08-04 12:32:26
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answered by ? 1
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According to Martin Luther, God is incapable of telling the difference between a genuine pile of snow, and a genuine pile of dung that is merely covered with snow.
Based on this, I conclude that the doctrine of Purgatory is wrong, but I also suggest that anyone in heaven avoid stepping on anything that resembles a pile of snow.
It could be Martin Luther. It could be something else.
2006-08-04 13:11:31
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answered by Anonymous
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It is stated in the bible and interpreted as in Catholicism faith that until we pay for every single sins we commited on earth, we are to stay in purgatory. (that is why sacrament of reconcilliation is very important that we seek for god's forgiveness through the priests and make sincere penance)
Pls remember that in the bible the Lord teaches alot of time with parable, just as the body and blood of Christ which is literally Himself nourishing the Catholics spiritually to fight against temptation.
2006-08-04 12:48:01
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answered by Anonymous
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No. It is a pagan doctrine. It is part of the paganism that the catholic church adopted to merge the True Believers and the pagans back in rome. They also adopted easter (worship the sun god astoreth) and tried to make it "christian" which stuck, christmas (mithraism), and lent among many other things. Do not be led astray by these. Such as rapture is deceiving the christian church at this time. It is also a false and non scriptural doctrine.
2006-08-04 12:36:28
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answered by The Man 2
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This is not a Bible teaching. Notice what the Bible says:
Romans 6:7 "For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." When a person dies, he conscience of nothing at all, Notice again what the Bible says at Eclesiates 9:5 " For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten."
2006-08-04 12:33:48
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answered by Anonymous
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No.
However, there is no proof in the Bible for 7-11, so maybe stuff that isn't in the Bible still exists.
2006-08-04 12:30:55
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answered by Anonymous
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No, Heaven and Hell yes but purgatory no. Read it for yourself
2006-08-04 12:30:59
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answered by I-o-d-tiger 6
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