Now this man sounds like he actually has a head on his shoulders that works.?

Question

If the story of Adam & Eve were taken at face value, the comparison would be to a parent who gave an infant a button that detonated an explosive.

And, when the infant pushed the button, the parent blamed the infant rather than himself.

The story of Adam & Eve is one of the most ridiculous stories ever accepted by people as being even close to having factual accuracy.

And, if it were true, the "God" of the bible is the worst kind of psychopath and homicidal maniac that ever existed.

JT, you are a very wise man. Expect to see 10 point in your future.

Answer 1

Good point. Let Zappa shed some more light on it:

"What was it that Adam ate that he wasn't supposed to eat? It wasn't just an apple. It was the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The subtle message? 'Get smart and I'll **** you over' sayeth the Lord. God is the smartest, and he doesn't want any Competition. Is this not an absolutely anti-intellectual religion?"
Frank Zappa

Sorry, he just had a thing for Eden...

"The essence of Christianity is told us in the Garden of Eden history. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your ******* mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions."
Frank Zappa, interview, Playboy, May 2, 1993

Answer 2

Thank you for the compliment.

And the analogy is correct as relates to the story of A & E. If the bible story was true, they were intellectually equivalent to infants who have never known anything other than their cribs or playpens.

BTW, I don't need the points, so I would prefer you gave them to your next best answer. I'll settle for "honorable mention" in the comments.

I'm level 6 and more points do nothing for me as it relates to Yahoo.

Thanks.


To reiterate the point to those claiming A & E were "children."

They had no EXPERIENCE with "right" and "wrong," nor did they have any concept on which to base the idea of "punishment."

Trying to tell an infant to not do something is a waste of time. And, is the primary reason all those "child proof" devices were invented.

The claim that God was "testing" infants by giving them a nuclear bomb is idiotic. Unless one also claims "God" is a homicidal psychopath.

Answer 3

That doesn't make any sense. An infant is incapable of knowing what could or would happen, and thus of even making a a conscious choice. If you will take Adam and Eve at face value, as you say, you must admit the fact that Adam and Eve both knew what the consequences were of disobeying God, and they both knew what it was they were doing to disobey and how to obey (Genesis 3). So this is a false analogy, as man has free will. Also, it is logically inconsistent to say if God does exist, then He is bad. No. If God does exist, He must of necessity be good. This is the only logical principle that can come of it.

Answer 4

I think the story is far more complex. The issue is about free will. If God made Adam and Eve without a free will and did condemn them, you might be right.

If God didn't give them free will - then we are nothing more than automatons and puppets. And therefore nothing matters and still you'd be right.

If we have free will - then Adam and Eve - all the down to us as individuals were given a choice between choosing love or hate, good or evil, etc.

If you could give someone a pill to make you love you - would it really be love? I don't think so. Love and everything else in life is a choice. The story is about free will because without it - life and love would be an exercise in futility.

It's a complex story about the very nature of human life. I hope you someday see that. If things suck in human existence - don't blame God. Blame everyone else for their choices and don't forget to include yourself too.

Take care

Answer 5

Except that your infant would push the button out of curiosity. Whereas Adam and eve did it out of rebellion. Or did you miss the whole "be like God" part. How rare, an atheist that overlooks something from the text. Sorry, that's called sarcasm. I love it when you guys try to misuse scripture. It gives us an opportunity to show all the holes in your arguments.

Answer 6

I like your button analogy. Of course we would want knowledge, and to deprive humans from it would be like genetically engineering a new bug, then keeping it in a jar to watch it die. Humans must seek enlightenment, because we are capable of attaining it. All these years of evolution will be for nothing if people keep being so childish about religion. The story (I say 'story' emphatically) of Adam and Eve is there to teach us something. Not something to believe as fact. Because if you just take it all word for word, then you are not using your BRAIN to question the contents of said story...and wouldn't Eve be pissed to see us all just nodding our heads, not using the knowledge that She provided us? *shaking my head.*
The whole story is meant to show us...that we are believing untruth. I don't believe in the devil, and so said entity could not be the whisper in Eve's ear. And if everything is of God, then why do we question whether or not there is said entity? I do not question, because I know that the bad things that happen, occur to test us, and the bad things people do, should not be scapegoated away. We should own them. Only when we realize this, will we be free to see the truth. The snake has long been a symbol of wisdom and cycles- the church wanted to crush this, and so stuck a snake in the story. Just another way they killed the pagan belief systems... Or did they kill us? We're ba-ack...
Blessed be.

Answer 7

No, i'm going to declare you're dumb for believing those issues. You did no longer verify your components. there's a humorous ingredient approximately all those previous thoughts of the narrow guy, and you neglected it. That ingredient is the certainty that maximum of them, no be counted how previous they're reported to be, weren't published on the cyber web or everywhere else till 2010 on the earliest. There are historic thoughts approximately tall adult men with supernatural characteristics, yet (different than height) they're no longer something like the narrow guy. The thoughts that are purely like 'him' could declare to be hundreds of years previous, yet you will under no circumstances hit upon a version that fluctuate into revealed or published multiple years in the past. comparable ingredient with each and all of the information clippings. look up "information tale generator" on a google seek, and you will actual discover those that have been used for Slendy's information comments in the 1980's. human beings say the narrow guy is a fictional character with the aid of fact he's. His author no longer in basic terms admitted that Slendy exchange right into a hoax, he's downright happy with it. that's no longer a type of tinfoil hat theories the place human beings accused somebody of a coverup, this could be a case the place the author of the finished tale takes credit for his artwork. under no circumstances assume there's a regulation against mendacity on the cyber web.

Answer 8

I agree.....
The story may be ridiculous by our standards today. but to the primitive people at the time, it would have answered simple things about life and brought a sense of unity for the tribes of Hebrews.

It would have helped reinforce their view of being the superior race.
It didn't work too well for them, but stories like this worked well for other societies.
Its this ancient story of Adam and Eve, that probably gave their ridiculous world view more credence with the Greeks, who spawned the Jesus myth, which split to the Muslims and then the Protestants and Calvinist and so on and so on.... to the state of affairs we are in today.
But I agree...... chrisitians that see this story as being factual events in history, need help. Its logically consistent, anyone who sees this story as factual, will have to view 'God', in my opinion, as a CRACK addicted,PSYCHOTIC HOMICIDAL 2 year old. and with today's technology, that scares me.

merry christmass

Answer 9

The analogy is valid and logical.. Everyone is forgetting before they ate from the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE they had NO KNOWLEDGE not of right and wrong not of consequences of actions nor did they Know what disobeying meant. You have to have knowledge to process information. Information equals knowledge. SO until they ate from the Tree of Knowledge they didn't even know nor were they aware they were naked BECAUSE they had no knowledge until they did eat. At any rate this was suppose to be story as allegory not fact.

Answer 10

Wow, incredible. Even after I explained to you your incredible lack of logic, common sense, you come up with another stupid question that isn't a question at all. Where did you come up with this stupid analogy? I was right about what I said said about you in your last question. You are an idiot.