Who agrees with my take on Adam and Eve?

Question

Ok, I will probably get some flak from everyone on this, but here is my somewhat naturalistic view on the Adam and Eve story....

First off I think adam and eve is a big time allegory, that shows the first burgeoning (A. Afer..) on the earth... They were simple, and existed in harmony with nature, because they were little more than animals themselves...
...As time went on thought they ate from the fruit of the tree of knowledge (got smarter)... and began to change and reckognize themselves as outside of the natural order. people became smarter and smarter (from eating more animal protien that they hunted) and could never truly return to their original union with nature.
...They were cast out to toil in the fields (left the forrests and jungles to walk on 2 feet in the plains) , and were punished by having painful childbirth ( human birth is painful for 2 reasons, rigid hip bones because of bipedal locomotion, and because of the size of the human brain). What are your thoughts?

Oh... this is my elaborate way of saying that the bible says we evolved from apes...

Adam & Eve = Original apes... (A. africanus, or apherensis... I forget which was first)

I also find it somewhat entertaining that when someone proposes a manner that the bible and science can co-exist people jump out of the woodwork and scream blasphemy and heresy... I guess the earth is only 4,000 years old, man rode on the backs of dinosaurs, like in the flintstones, and god is incapable of writing a book that has any poetry in it... he is sadly only capable of prose...

RE; meat doesn't make your brains grow.
Actually numerous studies have shown that the consumption of animal protien is directly related to an increase in brain mass... this would include fish and beef... it doesnt mean that if you keep eating beef all day till the day you die that your brain will be huge, but they are directly related...

Answer 1

The adam and eve story is great, if you are into mythology, and this is precisely what it is, a story meant to teach us. Whether or not scientists will ever find the direct ancestors of humans is kinda here-nor-there, when you have illustrated this so well. I think that the story is meant to provide people with answers to unanswerable questions, the same way that other gods and goddesses were employed to do this same thing- Why does the ground shake, where do we go when we die, why do the crops die when it gets cold... All these things were unanswerable until we came into understanding and evolved into beings that were capable of doing something purposeful with said knowledge. And yes, I think you have got something here. But the story is meant to speak to each of us differently, as we are not all of the same intelligence, or creed. You are wise.
Blessed Be.

Answer 2

My thoughts only..no proof.
Adam was the gardener. Periodically God's wife wanted the garden for her children, or pleasures, so God kicked the Gardener and his wife out..without pay..they came to earth, they founded cities unionized..called the various God businesses to pray and demand a fair deal..so God's advocates spread a disease called greed among those who rejected their slavery, and offer of homelessness, and thus they were quarrantined and shunned for being uppitty.
Then their slave traditions caused cruel and perverse abusive behaviour in all creatures.Painful births and stressmultiplied.
So the shunning began from the earthlings and the animals,most believed that God simply hates every earthling, and dumps his garbage here. the creator is dead miss piggy they bled him dry..so they say..It's all about the money..
And finally we simply do not speak to them..they are a piece of work. His wife some say put Adam out of the garden,( oh and his slave Eve) because she had an appointment with her boyfriends Forgive me if this is maybe not a saintly charming offering but it's a thought. As scripture says His wife is a stupid greedy prostitute..but more likely..jealous, as they thought they were the only creators.
The entire story is of an only child complex, and the hated gardener..and the woman
his creator, father said..? you know, just a servant,..and the gardeners and earthlings shouldn't be allowed to live..
so Adam became an only eternal life child so we die they live, we work they eat..my guess..God Hates me so he made adam to enslave me..but I am a woman.

Answer 3

I don't think you are too far off.

You might enjoy taking a look at Carol Meyer's Discovering Eve.

She points out that the so-called curse in Genesis is not really so much a curse as it is a statement about the realities of life in the late Iron Age:

1. You will have many PREGNANCIES (this is a better translation)--due to the high infant mortality rate
2. you will have to till the soil--birth of agriculture under primitive, subsistence farming.

Note that Adam means "fertile soil" and Eve means "life"

There's your allegory. Meyers sees this as a nationalistic saga as well...these were the challenges ahead, and yet in the face of hardships, men and women had these two obligations to the developing nation of Israel.

Answer 4

People who wrote the bible had trouble understanding nature and time. So they came up with lots of stories one of them about Adam and Eve.
Humans have evolved. Not from apes, but we share the same ancestor.

Do you believe that the bible is full of allegories just because god wanted simple people to understand his creation?

Well, why hasn't he sent us another book, since we've gained all that knowledge?

Answer 5

The creation myth is pure allegory and is actually about five earlier creation myths all rolled into one. Forget about evolution in regards to this. the historians, priests and scribes who assembled the Pentateuch would not have had a clue about what you would have meant, but they would have caught on quickly and included it in the book if they had have known. In the beginning was the word. that means the creative idea, which acted on the waters of Chaos to generate forms, not out of nothing but out of the Egyptian and Chaldean waters of Chaos, the disorganized and formless. Then comes the creation of Light and Dark. this is not the Sun, the sun is created later. This is the original dichotomy of light and dark, self and other, black and white, and yes and no. the start of logic systems. then comes the creation of space(heaven) to divide the waters of chaos, this is the creation of dimension, and measurement. Then comes the gathering of the waters of chaos and the appearance of dry land. but this is not the dry land of the earth, it is the creation of solid forms out of the waters of Chaos, the division is between the void spiritual world of ideal shapes and the materialistic world of shape and form, of realization. The First part of the creation myth ends here and the second set of myths take over. , this set involves a multitude of Gods carving out creation from the void and making the world that men walk in. These were again myths adopted from all around. The remmanents are witnessed in such oddities as the one single god of the bible referring to himself in the plural form over and over. then comes the creation of man and of woman and then the Ideal of the garden of delight and the story of Promethius bringing the fruit or the light of reason to man and the loss of paradise and all that.

The main point though is to realize that the assembling of this book after the return of the Jewish nobility and ruling classes from Babylon from scattered and fragmented articles was to serve as a creation myth not only for the world but also for the fledgling Kingdom of Juda. and was as much propaganda as mythos or true history. The Politics of the times throw a lot of light on many of the crazy inconsistencies and obvious errors these books contain.

Answer 6

The Bible says that Adam and Eve were created in God's image. We did NOTevolve from apes like others believe. I choose to believe in the Word of God...the BIBLE. The world if full of God's creation, it didn't "just" happen. Just look around.

Answer 7

Wow you are quite a story teller. I like your 'take' on the Story.
If however it is true it leaves us all (mankind) fatherless.
I much prefer the Story of creation as written in the Bible.
At the very least we are not left Fatherless. Anyhow,maybe you should write some stories or books. It would be fun!

Answer 8

Whatever works for you...but why would you catch a lot of flak for that take on the the creation story? I've seen a lot worse in these q & a's and I hardly ever get on this site....if you want to catch a lot of flak for your opion, try something political or speak out against PETA...that'll get you some good comebacks.

Answer 9

Have you been reading Daniel Quinn's books? Sounds like it. If you haven't check out the "Ishmael" series...kind of backs up and goes further with your reasoning...I don't think it's outrageous, although you'll probably catch a lot of flack from the biblical literalists.

Answer 10

I'm almost there with you. Check it out: however you take the story of Creation, the key is that as soon as mankind was capable of understanding morally right from morally wrong, it does wrong. This is evident today. Watch a child grow, and as soon as he/she can truly understand the depth of morality, they inherently violate the moral law that God has given us.