What Religion was Satan? If anyone would know the true God he would-& he wouldn't worship himself-Gods don't?

Question

Would he be baptist catholic or Lutheran-perhaps he is Jewish also-he coulda been a muslim or Protestant-but you can't tell me he IS agnostic or atheist because God has revealed himself to Lucifer! And because he is both in The old and new testaments as well as the Qaran-could he be baptised as a Christian and then be saved? Oh this I gotta hear!

Answer 1

What is your reference that Lucifer is Satan?

Why dont we examine that before we go into this nonsense?




LUCIFER, also called Lucifer Calaritanus (d. c.370), bishop of Cagliari, Sardinia, was a fierce opponent of the heresy of Arianism (first proposed early in the 4th century by the Alexandrian presbyter Arius, who taught that Christ is not truly divine but a created being). To further his rigorously orthodox views, Lucifer Calaritanus founded the Luciferians, a sect that survived in scattered remnants into the early 5th century. 8
It was attacked by St. Jerome in his polemic Altercatio Luciferiani et orthodoxi ("The Dispute of the Luciferian and the Orthodox").
References to these Luciferians, without further explanation, has perhaps lead subsequent writers such as Nesta H. Webster to erroneously assume that they were satanic.

"Lucifer" is the Latin term originally used by the Romans to refer to the planet Venus when that planet was west of the sun and hence rose before the sun in the morning, thereby being the morning star.

The same planet was called Hesperus, Cesperugo, Vesper, Noctifer, or Nocturnus, when it appeared in the heavens after sunset. Although 19th and 20th century occultists would equate other goddesses such as Astarte, Ashtoreth, Lilith, Isis, Cemeramis, Mari, and Ishtar with Venus, links between the cultures and attributes represented are not historically clear. Lucifer as a personification is called a son of Astraeus and Aurora or Eos, of Cephalus and Aurora, or of Atlas. He is called the father of Ceyx, Daedalion, and of the Hesperides. Lucifer is also a surname of several goddesses of light, such as Artemis, Aurora, and Hecate. 1.

The word appears to have entered the religious lexicon when the Hebrew expression in Isaiah 14:12, "HeYLeL BeN-ShaCHaR." (meaning "bright son of the morning/dawn," "bright [and] morning star," "glowing morning star," or "shining one, son of the dawn.")2. was translated to "Phosphorus" (the Greek word for Venus as the morning star) in the Septuagint, and then translated into "Lucifer" in the Vulgate (from the Greek Septuagint). Isaiah 14, taken as a whole, is a parable, or prophecy of denunciation against the Kings of Babylon, specifically Tiglath-pileser III 3 In verse 12, the prophet characterizes the arrogance of Tiglath-pileser III as if the king had thought himself fit to appear in the sky as the morning star, but has fallen to earth, being brought low by the vengeance of the Lord against those who would exalt themselves and persecute the Lord’s people (i.e., the Israelites).


Origenes Adamantius (185 CE - 254 CE), an important Christian scholar of the early Greek Church, and Augustine of Canterbury (d. May 26 604/605 CE), founder of the Christian Church in southern England, both interpreted the use of the term Lucifer as a reference to the Devil.

The name Lucifer was applied to Satan by St. Jerome and later to the demon of sinful pride by Milton in Paradise Lost.

Lucifer is the title and principal character of the epic poem by the Dutch playwright, Vondel (who uses Lucifer in lieu of Satan), and a principal character in the mystery play by Imre Madach, "The Tragedy of Man".

Blake pictured Lucifer in his illustrations to Dante.

George Meredith’s sonnet Lucifer in Starlight addresses the "fiend" as Prince Lucifer.

To Spenser in An Hymne of Heavenly Love, Lucifer is "the brightest angel, even the Child of Light." In Ovid’s Metamorphosis, Lucifer is the morning star and father of Ceyx. He is described as riding a white horse (clarus equo, book XV.189) and his face is characterized by a bright gladness (see XI.270 ff. Lucifero genitore satus patriumque nitorem ore ferens Ceyx). Also see Books II.115 and 723, IV.629,665.

LUCIFER shining one, i.e. the morning star, as explained by the following words ’son of dawn,' Is 14:12). - The word is applied by the writer of the prophecy to the King of Babylon, partly in reference to the astrology for which Chaldaea was famous in ancient times, partly to the prevailing belief in the deification of heroes. The king of Babylon had complacently looked forward to the time when he would ascend into heaven and exalt his throne above the stars of God. But in reality his dead body would be treated with the utmost contempt. ''a carcass trodden under foot', while his soul would descend into Sheol, and there receive but an empty honour from the shades, astounded that the great and mighty king could become like one of themselves. 4

The word "satan" is from a Hebrew word, "sathane", meaning adversary or calumniator; in original Jewish usage (see the book of Job), the satan is the adversary, not of God, but of mankind; i.e., the angel charged by God with the task of proving that mankind is an unworthy creation. 5

Note though, that Balaam’s satan (Numbers 22:23-33) protects him from harm.

Later, as Judaism absorbed such ideas as Zoroastrian dualism and concepts about angels during the Exile, and then as Christianity echoed various concepts from earlier religions, the concept of an evil power ruling an underground domain of punishment for the wicked became fixed in Christian doctrine. In such a doctrine, elements of the Graeco-Roman god Pluto/ Vulcan/ Hephaestus, the Underworld, and various aspects of Nordic/Teutonic mythology may be traced.

The Latin name of Phosphorus, Venus as the morning star, is the light bringer which heralds the dawn. The name is sometimes applied to the planet as the evening star as well, although Hesperus is properly its name then.

By a curious chain of reference, the passage in Luke 10:18 was thought to refer to Isaiah 14:12, in which the star is used metaphorically for the monarch of Babylon. Thus Lucifer became the chief of the fallen angels, the name borned by Satan before his rebellion. 6

"From a supposed reference to this passage in our Lord’s words. 'I beheld Satan fallen as lightning from heaven' (Lk 10:18), in connexion with Rev 9:1-11 (the language of 9:1 being in part probably derived from this passage), Lucifer came in the Middle Ages to be a common appellation of Satan. The star of Rev 9:1-11 is a fallen angel who has given to him the key of the abyss, from which he sets loose upon the earth horribly formed locusts with scorpions' tails, who have, however, power to hurt only such men as have not the seal of God on their foreheads.

But this angel is not actually identified with Satan by the writer of the Apocalypse. The imagery in Is was no doubt suggested by a meteor, and possibly it was so in Rev also." 7.

While some authors referred to Lucifer as Satan’s name before his expulsion from Heaven, others referred to Lucifer and Satan as two distinct entities. 10.

Both as a literary convention and as Christian teachings or belief, historically there would appear to be little consensus. Regardless, it should be clear that an author may use the terms Lucifer or luciferian and not be referring to Satan.

1.Sir William Smith, Smaller Classical Dictionary.
2.E. Theodore Mullen, Jr. The Assembly of the Gods: The Divine Council in Canaanite and Early Hebrew Literature. Harvard Semitic Monograph Series No. 24, Scholar’s Press: 1980, ISSN 0073-0637.
3.There is no consensus on which king is referred to in Isaiah. There are four main contenders: Tiglath-pileser III (c.774 - 727 BC) who is referred to as "Pul" in II Kings 15:19). [Cf. An Introduction to the Old Testament Prophetic Books, Chapter 6, C. Hassell Bullock. Moody Press: Chicago, 1986 Edition.]; Nebuchadrezzer, afterwards corrupted into Nebuchadnezzer, who reigned 604-561 BCE; his grandson, Belshazzar.(d. c. 539); and Sennacherib (705-681 BCE) [See Bible Knowledge Commentary, "Isaiah," John Martin. p. 1061.].
4.F.H. Woods, A Dictionary of the Bible Vol III. ed. James Hastings. New York. Charles Scribner’s Sons: 1908. p. 159. Cf. : Numbers 24:17 "...there shall come a Star out of Jacob...."; 2 Peter 1:19 "...until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:"; Revelation 22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
5.Owen C. Whitehouse, A Dictionary of the Bible Vol IV. ed. James Hastings. New York. Charles Scribner’s Sons: 1908. pp. 407-12. Cf. The Origin of Satan, Elaine Pagels. Random House, New York: 1995.
6.Funk & Wagnall Standard Dictionary of Folklore, Mythology & Legend.
7. F.H. Woods, loco citato
8.The New Encyclopædia Britannica, Chicago: 1989. 15th edition. vol. 7, p. 542.
9. Detail from Tiglath-pileser III Receiving Homage 745-27 B.C.; Mesopotamian, Neo-Assyrian period; Limestone; height 1.2 m (48 in.)
10. See Livre de la Deablerie, title page. Paris : printed by Michel Le Noir, 1568. Reproduced in Devils, Demons, and Witchcraft, Ernst and Johanna Lehner. New York : Dover Publications Inc., 1971. p. 52. Also see "The pact with the infernal powers allegedly signed by Father Urbain Grandier and countersigned by Lucifer, Beelzebub, Satan, Elmi, Leviathan, Asteroth and Baalbarith. Loudun, 1634." Devils, Demons, and Witchcraft, p. 80.

Answer 2

In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.

The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of God plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.

Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.

Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.

Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 3

I believe it's taught that humans have been promised redemption through believing in Jesus Christ. Any human can receive the salvation of Jesus.

This offer of redemption does not extend to angels, demons, or Satan. I don't know why, I recall reading something about how angels have seen the full glory of God, and so if they choose to rebel, God will not forgive them... something like that. I'm not sure. But no, Satan can't just waltz in church and be baptized and be nice again. Not that I think he ever would, lol.

Answer 4

Since Lucifer was created before religious practices came around he worships only god. That is what got him thrown out of heaven (the battle between he and god happens in revelations). You see the story not it modern bibles is this: When god created the angels he gave them one command, "you shall bow down to no other but me for I am your creator". Then god created man. God then said to the angels "you shall bow down to man and serve him for I have created him." All the angels did as they were told and supplicated themselves to Adam, except for Lucifer who remembered gods first command and did not bow down to man a lesser creation. He love god that much to not break the first law". For his loyalty he was not thrown out but just lost favor. You see in the OT Lucifer sits on the council of judgement with god in the book of Job. So if god hates him then why would he allow him to be in the heavenly council? Wouldn't he be banned from gods presence.

There are many inconsistancies like this in the bible.

By the way I am not even a member of any mainstream religion. I am a formally trained and practicing witch. I just study other religions so I can understand the why's as well.

Answer 5

Religion was made for man. Satan was an angel...and now is fallen. So I dont see how a spirit could be religious.
However, I believe satan still talks to God accusing and condemning people.

Answer 6

a guy or woman can no longer "worship devil w/o understanding it; they are in a position to in basic terms worship their thought of God or Divinity interior the way perfect perfect to them. in spite of everything, "devil" is a medieval Christian invention. illiberal, judgemental, and paranoid human beings in simple terms decide to show hands at human beings and tell them that their concept structures are invalid and diabolic or "Satanic." this way of questioning actual resulted interior the torture and deaths of tens of hundreds of persons (scientists, philosophers, persons healers, and persons who have been unlliked with the aid of their kinfolk and friends ) for the time of Europe between approximately years 1200 and 1700. the overpowering majority of persons who have been killed pointed out themselves as Christians yet their fellow Christians theory otherwise and tortured and killed them. Now the non secular and cultural variety is the norm and is risk-free with the aid of regulation, particular Christians are back freaking out with regard to the ideals and customs of persons who're distinctive from them and are nonetheless calling for blood.

Answer 7

Satan does not care about any religion, satan is full of greed, deception and lies, to mislead people against God, and that is what got him in trouble in the first place. When people become sceptics they show their lack of faith in God, and we can only have our reward in eternal life through our faith in Jesus Christ.

Answer 8

Yeah, he's be Satanic. He could not be baptized and saved because he was already kicked out of Heaven... and Jesus died for the sins of humanity, not for those of demons or angels.

Answer 9

The one being in all of heaven who was closest to god, rebelled against him.

Shouldn't that be a clue to the rest of us?

Answer 10

Why does he have to be part of any religion? Nobody has to be part of a religion. Religion is a pure fabrication by man.

Answer 11

He is a Satanist.. he worships himself