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Im not sure about this but if this is true...it's like WHAT THE HELL! Who could possibly believe in such a thing? This is just very wrong. Thou Shall Not Kill. In the 9/11 the terrorists even believed they are doing what God wants them to do(kill). But of course that's NOT what God wants them to do. wow..i don't get it

2006-08-03 08:18:49 · 4 answers · asked by Mizz Clever16 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

4 answers

In the Quran, does it really say people should kill other Christians?!!?

how about putting this question:-

In the USA does it realy say people should be killed by ATOMIC bomb?

Who killed them ? BIBLE? or QURAN.

Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos.
— Will Durant

2006-08-03 09:36:39 · answer #1 · answered by abjad 4 · 0 2

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91

Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

That's just a few, there are many, many more similar verses from the Quran.

BTW, Thou Shalt Not Kill is one of the Ten Commandments, I don't think they mean much to muslims.

Another question for you: How is it you know what god wants?

2006-08-03 15:32:11 · answer #2 · answered by Freakzilla 2 · 0 0

no it doesnt say so, you think so because of misinformation regarding quran. the quran says about christians is ,

Quran (5: 82) .....nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
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The commandment of quran is not to kill any innocent person.

Nor take life - which God has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand qisas or to forgive): but let him nor exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the Law). (The Noble Quran, 17:33)"



"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)"

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"But if the enemy incline towards PEACE, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"


“If they leave you alone and offer to make PEACE with you, God does not allow you to harm them.” (QURAN 4:90)


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some person above has pasted the verses without context.. here is the quran , you can read it yourself with context. the verses which allows fighting is in the case of battlefield or combat. not to harm any innocent person.

check yourself in quran, and not depend on others.
here is the copy of quran >>>> http://www.wam.umd.edu/~stwright/rel/islam/Quran.html

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2006-08-03 16:14:48 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I've written a section somewhat long section about this question. If you really want an answer you should read it all, other than that, you're free to believe what you want:

Islam is Pro-War
War is abominable, but sometimes necessary. World War II required that Nazism be confronted. Any nation which advocates justice could not have stood idly by and watched this dangerous threat lead to the deaths of millions of innocent, undeserving people. Hitler’s regime had to be thwarted. “If God did not drive some back by means of others the earth would be completely corrupt, but God is bountiful to all.” 2:251 “Those who have been attacked are permitted to take up arms because they have been wronged – God has the power to help them – those who have been driven unjustly from their homes only for saying, ‘Our Lord is God.’ If God did not repel some people by means of others, many monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, where God’s name is much invoked, would have been destroyed. God is sure to help those who help His cause – God is strong and mighty.” 22:39-40 Fighting oppression – or aiding those who cannot defend themselves – and self-defense are the only justifiable reasons for war. Yet, when the word Jihad is mentioned, it is automatically associated with terrorism and violence. The meaning of the word Jihad is to ‘strive’, or ‘make effort [in the way of God]’. It can be both peaceful and physical. Muhammad PBUH said, “The best Jihad is when a person strives against his own self for the sake of God.” This is when a person strives in resisting and avoiding temptations to remain pure.

However, it is the physical Jihad which has been subjected to many negative criticisms. In the Qur’an, it says, “Why should you not fight in God’s cause and for those oppressed men, women, and children who cry out, ‘Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors! By Your grace, give us a protector and helper!’?”4:75 “Fighting is ordained for you, though you dislike it. You may dislike something although it is good for you, or like something although it is bad for you: God knows and you do not.”2:216 People who falsely claim that Islam is pro-war make it sound as if Muslims and prophet Muhammad PBUH were the only servants of God who have ever fought in wars. What about David, did he not kill Goliath in war? Or Solomon, did he not have armies that fought in God’s cause? Are David and Solomon not ‘Christian’ and ‘Jewish’ prophets as well? What about Moses, did he not command the Children of Israel to fight those who occupied Jerusalem? Were they not cursed for forty years to roam in the desert because they did not fight?

With a dangerous resort such as War, however, rules and guidelines have to be instilled in order for people not to overstep the bounds of justice and become the very oppression they were fighting against. “Fight in God’s cause against those who fight you, but do not overstep the limits” – prohibition of starting hostilities, fighting non-combatants, disproportionate response to aggression, killing children, women, the sick, or the elderly – “God does not love those who overstep the limits. Slay them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out, for persecution is more serious than killing. Do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they fight you there. If they do fight you, kill them – this is what such disbelievers deserve – but if they stop, then God is most forgiving and merciful. Fight them until there is no more persecution, and your worship is devoted to God. If they cease hostilities, there can be no further hostility, except towards aggressors. A sacred month for a sacred month: violation of sanctity [calls for] fair retribution. So if anyone commits aggression against you, attack him as he attacked you, but be mindful of God, and know that He is with those who are mindful of Him. Spend in God’s cause: do not contribute to your destruction with your hands , but do good, for God loves those who do good” (2:190-5).

Both non-Muslims eager to criticize Islam and some Islamic extremists have repeatedly used qur’anic verses to put them out of context and give them new meaning. They distort what the verses say by omitting parts and masking further explanations. This technique has been frequently used to justify erroneous views, especially for the previously mentioned verses. ‘Slay them wherever you find them’ taken out of context implies that Muslims may kill non-Muslims wherever they find them. As mentioned above, the only situations where the Qur’an allows Muslims to fight are in self-defense or the defense of the oppressed who call for help; but even then, this is restricted to those with whom the Muslims do not have treaty obligations. “If they seek help from you against persecution, it is your duty to assist them, except against people with whom you have a treaty: God sees all that you do” 8:72 (Haleem, 2004). Not even breaking treaties is permissible in Islam, so how can people claim that murder is?

(Back to the verses 2:190-5) “The pronoun ‘them’ refers to the words ‘those who fight you’. Here, Muslims are here being allowed to fight the Meccans who attacked them. ‘Wherever you find them’ or ‘come up against them’ is also misunderstood. As exegetes and commentators explain, the Muslims were anxious that if their enemies attacked them in Mecca, which was and is a sanctuary – in which no Muslim is allowed to fight, or kill even an animal or plant – and they retaliated and killed, they would be breaking the law. The Qur’an simply reassured the Muslims that they could defend themselves when attacked, even if they killed their attackers, whether within the sanctuary or outside it. However, the six verses that concern war (2:190-5) contain many restrictions and are couched in restraining language that appeals strongly to the Muslims’ conscience. In six verses we find four prohibitions; seven restrictions (one ‘until,’ four ‘if,’ two ‘who fight you’); as well as such cautions as ‘in God’s cause,’ ‘be mindful of God,’ ‘God does not love those who overstep the limits,’ ‘He is with those who are mindful of Him,’ ‘loves those who do good,’ and ‘God is most forgiving and merciful.’ ” (Haleem, 2004).

“Equally misinterpreted and taken out of context is the following qur’anic verse: ‘When the [four] forbidden months are over, wherever you find the polytheists, kill them, seize them, besiege them, ambush them – but if they turn [to God], maintain the prayer, and pay the prescribed alms, let them go on their way, for God is most forgiving and merciful.’ 9:5 The hostility and bitter enmity of the polytheists and their persecution of the Muslims during the time of the Prophet PBUH became so great that the disbelievers were determined to convert the Muslims back to paganism or finish them off: ‘They will not stop fighting you [believers] until they make you revoke your faith, if they can.’ 2:217 It was these hardened polytheists in Arabia, who would accept nothing other than the expulsion of Muslims or their reversion to paganism, and who repeatedly broke their treaties, that the Muslims were ordered to treat in the same way – either to expel them or to accept nothing from them except Islam. But, even then, the Prophet PBUH and the Muslims were not simply pounce on such enemies, reciprocating by breaking the treaty themselves: an ultimatum was issued, giving the enemy notice that, after the four sacred months, the Muslims would wage war on them.” (Haleem, 2004).

“Yet the main clause of the sentence – ‘Kill the polytheists’ – is singled out by some non-Muslims as representing the Islamic attitude to war, even some Muslims take this view and allege that this verse abrogated many other verses, including ‘There is no compulsion in religion’ 2:256 and even, according to a possible extremist, ‘God is forgiving and merciful.’ This far-fetched interpretation isolates and decontextualizes the many reasons given in order to fight such polytheists: they continually broke their agreements and aided others against the Muslims, they started hostilities against the Muslims, barred others from becoming Muslims, expelled them from the Holy Mosque and even from their own homes. Moreover consistent with restrictions on war elsewhere in the Qur’an, the polytheists who do not break their agreements and keep the peace with the Muslims are granted security: ‘If any one of the polytheists should seek your protection [Prophet], grant it to him so that he may hear the word of God – then take him to a safe place – for they are people with no knowledge.’9:6 ” (Haleem, 2004).

War in Islam is only resorted to in order to establish justice. It is something God has ordained on His faithful servants who seek to do good in the lands. As for killing in general, the Qur’an explains, “Do not kill each other, for God is merciful to you”;4:29 “Never should a believer kill another believer, except by mistake […]. If anyone kills a believer deliberately, the punishment for him is Hell, and there he will remain: God is angry with him, and rejects him, and has prepared a tremendous torment for him.”4:91-92 “On account of [his deed], We decreed […] that if anyone kills a person – unless in retribution for murder or spreading corruption in the land – it is as if he kills all mankind, while if any saves a life it is as if he saves the lives of all mankind.” 5:32


Intolerance of Other Religions
Many people critique Islam by saying that it does not tolerate other religions when it clearly states in the Qur’an: “[…] and He does not forbid you to deal kindly and justly with anyone who has not fought you for your faith or driven you out of your homes: God loves the just.” 60:8 Perhaps the qur’anic verse they rely on the most is verse 5:51 which says: “You who believe, do not take the Jews and Christians as allies: they are allies only to each other. Anyone who takes them as an ally becomes one of them – God does not guide such wrongdoers.” However, the Jews and Christians talked about here are clearly just the ones who are against the Muslim camp, as is clear from the following verses up to 5:59 : “You who believe, do not take as allies those who ridicule your religion and make fun of it – whether people who were given the Scripture before you, or disbelievers – and be mindful of God if you are true believers. When you make the call to prayer, they ridicule it and make fun of it: this is because they are people who do not reason. Say [Prophet], ‘People of the Book, do you resent us for any reason other than the fact that we believe in God, in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent before us, while most of you are disobedient?’ ”

Non-Muslims who want to show how Islam is intolerant of others also use the following qur’anic verse: “He that chooses a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted of him and in the world to come, he will be one of the lost.” 3:85 However, as mentioned before, “the word ‘Islam’ in the Arabic of the Qur’an means complete devotion/submission to God, unmixed with worship of any other. All earlier prophets are thus described by the Qur’an as Muslims. Those who read this word ‘Islam’ in the sense of the religion of prophet Muhammad PBUH will illegitimately set up a barrier between Islam and other monotheistic religions.” (Haleem, 2004). Logically, for Islam to be the true religion of God, it has to be attainable by any person, at any time, anywhere. It is this fundamental principle of one surrendering his will to God which makes Islam universal and not constrained to a certain type of people.

Further proof that Islam does not oppose peoples’ different beliefs can be seen in the following qur’anic verses: “The [Muslim] believers, the Jews, the Christians, and the Sabians – all those who believe in God and the Last Day and do good – will have their rewards with their Lord. No fear for them, nor will they grieve”; 2:62 “Some of the People of the Book believe in God, in what has been sent down to you and in what was sent down to them: humbling themselves before God, they would never sell God’s revelation for a small price. These people will have their rewards with their Lord: God is swift in reckoning”; 3:199 “You [Prophet] are sure to find that the most hostile to the believers are the Jews and those who associate other deities with God ; you are sure to find that the closest in affection towards the believers are those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ for there are among them people devoted to learning and ascetics. These people are not given to arrogance, and when they listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger, you will see their eyes overflowing with tears because they recognize the truth [in it]. They say, ‘Our Lord, we believe, so count us amongst the witnesses. Why should we not believe in God and in the truth that has come down to us when we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous?’ For saying this, God has rewarded them with Gardens graced with flowing streams, and there they will stay: that is the reward of those who do good.” 5:82-85

Hence, the verse “He that chooses a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted of him and in the world to come, he will be one of the lost” cannot be interpreted as shunning off any person who is not a Muslim. The Qur’an simply underlines the fact that there are differences between Islam, Judaism, and Christianity which sets them apart – depending on what the followers of each religion believe. “We have assigned a law and a path to each of you. If God had so willed, He would have made you one community, but He wanted to test you through that which He has given you, so race to do good: you will all return to God and He will make clear to you the matters you differed about.” 5:48 As for those who go astray by altering what God has sent down, or by claiming that He has begotten offspring, the Qur’an says: “If they had upheld the Torah and the Gospel and what was sent down to them from their Lord, they would have been given abundance from above and from below: some of them on the right course, but many of them do evil.” 5:66

“The Qur’an clearly defines its relationship with earlier scriptures by saying: ‘He has sent the Scripture down to you [Prophet] with the Truth, confirming what went before: He sent down the Torah and the Gospel earlier as a guide for people.’ 3:3-4 ” In ‘Consultation’, it says, “In matters of faith, He has laid down for you [people] the same commandment that He gave Noah, which We have revealed to you [Muhammad] and which We enjoined on Abraham and Moses and Jesus: ‘Uphold the faith and do not divide into factions within it’ – what you [Prophet] call upon the idolaters to do is hard for them; God chooses whoever He pleases for Himself and guides towards Himself those who turn to Him. They divided, out of rivalry, only after knowledge had come to them […]. Those after them, who inherited the Scripture, are in disquieting doubt about it. So [Prophet] call people to that faith and follow the straight path as you have been commanded. Do not go by what they desire, but say, ‘I believe in whatever Scripture God has sent down. I am commanded to bring justice between you. God is our Lord and your Lord – to us our deeds and to you yours, so let there be no argument between us and you – God will gather us together, and to Him we shall return.’ 42:13-14/15 ” “The Qur’an forbids arguing with the People of the Book except in the best way and urges the Muslims to say, ‘We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you; our God and your God are one [and the same].’ 29:46 And in another verse, it says, ‘Say, “People of the Book, let us arrive at a statement that is common to us all: we worship God alone, we ascribe no partner to Him, and none of us takes others beside God as Lords.” 3:64’ ” (Haleem, 2004).

2006-08-03 15:40:20 · answer #4 · answered by MizuBunshin 3 · 0 0

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