Messianic "Jews," are not Jews!
Messianic "Judaism" is not Judaism!
"Jews" for Jesus are not Jews!
Many people, Christians and some Jews as well, erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. It is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. Even if all, or some, of the genetic code in a child could be proved to be of Jewish Origin, that would not make the child a Jew. Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person's mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith, then that person will be considered fully Jewish, so long as that person wishes to identify solely as a Jew. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race, one who converts to Judaism does, indeed, become fully a Jew. Similarly, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.
Messianic "Judaism" is a product of the successful missionizing campaign of such ministries as the "Jews" for Jesus, who try to make it look as though one can be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. By definition, one who believes in Jesus as their savior is a Christian. One who accepts Jesus as anything other than a man who once lived, but died without doing anything the Real Messiah will do when he gets here (hence the reason for a Second Coming!), is a Christian and no longer a Jew.
The Orthodox Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, writing for the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, for the National Conference of Synagogue Youth, the Orthodox Youth Group, in his book The Real Messiah, on page 21 wrote:
This brings us back to our original question:
What can a Jew lose by embracing Christianity?
The answer is: Everything.
Christianity negates the fundamentals of Jewish
faith, and one who accepts it rejects the very
essence of Judaism. Even if he continues to keep
all of the rituals, it is the same as if he
abandoned Judaism completely.
A Jew who accepts Christianity might call himself
a "Messianic 'Jew,'" but he is no longer a Jew.
He can no longer even be counted as part of a
Jewish Congregation.
We Jews define for ourselves who is and who is not a Jew, and not the Jewish wannabees, and the targets of this newest technique in missionizing Jews.
The majority of the membership of Messianic ""Jewish"" congregations, as a matter of fact, were not ever Jewish up until recently, and this is also true about their Messianic ""rabbis."" Many of these "rabbis" change their names to something that sounds stereotypically Jewish, in order to better target those they want to convert to Christianity.
As the success of this newest technique in missionizing the less knowledgeable Jews increased, the percentage of membership of ex-Jews as members of their messianic congregations has also increased, now running about 50-50.
It is also interesting to note that a large number of people converting TO Judaism have come to real Judaism from having been exposed to Messianic ""Judaism.""
At a messianic congregation, all references to Christian theology has been changed to make it sound more Jewish, and therefore more pallatable to their targets. They will only refer to Jesus as 'Yeshua' (which would not have been his name), they will say 'moshiach' instead of 'christ,' they will say 'synagogue' instead of 'church,' and on and on, in keeping with the techniques described in the book Understanding Church Growth by Donald MacGavran, who helped the idea of Indiginous Cultural Evangelism get started.
The services will sound very Jewish, usually a lot of (mispronounced) Hebrew, and prayers will have been changed to add the Christian theology of Jesus to them, again, to make the service more familiar to their targets.
Remember that these messianic congregations need member$hip, and so they also target those Christians who want to know more about the ""Jewish roots"" of Christianity as well.
When a Catholic converts to a Protestant denomination of Christianity, do they join a church and call themselves "Roman Catholics For No Pope"? This whole idea, that one can remain a Jew after converting to Christianity, was a technique to better missionize Jews, begun in the 1960's. What an insult to Christianity, that to get Jews to convert to Christianity, they had to stop calling themselves what they became:: Christians!
"How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Still only four, because calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg." ---Abraham Lincoln
2006-08-03 07:13:31
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answered by sfederow 5
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Messianic Jews are Christians. Christians who are trying to keep some contact with their cultural past, perhaps. Or perhaps they continue to call themselves Jews as a way of converting more Jews to Christianity, making it seem that the two religions are compatible. But they are very different religions now.
Judaism follows the OT guidelines for leading a decent, good life. It focuses more on your relationship with God and others here in this life. Christianity focuses on salvation for an afterlife. As a result, Christians mock the Jewish laws and rules, saying that they won't acheive the goal of Salvation. But since Jews don't see Salvation as the goal, that's a meaningless criticism to Jews. The Christians claim that Jesus was the Messiah and he died and will come back some day. Jews say that the Messiah is yet to come and won't take a couple of tries over the course of thousands of years to get done what he's supposed to do.
Two different religions. Pretending that Messianic Judaism is the Jewish religion isn't accurate.
2006-08-03 07:04:01
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answered by thatguyjoe 5
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I am a Messianic Christian. There is a difference. Messianic Jews are Jews that have become saved and still celebrate Jewish holidays. A Messianic Christian is a Christian who celebrate the holidays. We are celebrating the feasts that Jesus and his disciples celebrated and that we are commanded to keep in the Bible. We aren't trying to deceive anyone. Messianic is the purist and most original form of Christianity. If you say you are Christian and don't celebrate the feasts you are skipping out on a big part of Christianity. You probably celebrate Pagan satanic feasts that druids and satanist brought to North America like Christmas, Halloween and Easter. We have put Christian masks on these holidays so we can celebrate them but if you look up the roots on google you might barf.
2006-08-03 07:26:48
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answered by Cody 3
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All Jews are messianic, believing in and awaiting the coming of the messiah. Some Jews, by accepting that jesus was a messiah, have turned their backs on their religion and are no longer members of the Jewish communities. We call them "Christians". You should, too.
2006-08-03 07:00:52
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answered by rosends 7
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im not Jewish
but i have always held a respect for Jews
and i hold a very special place in my heart for the Messianic Jews.
2006-08-03 07:06:41
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answered by Anonymous
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messianic jews aren't jewish. they are christians trying to convert real jews. messianic "judaism" goes against some of the fundamental beliefs of real judaism.
2006-08-03 07:00:15
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answered by Cheesie M 4
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I have to agree with the rest of the Jews
Messianic Jews, Jews for Jesus, Hebrew Christians or what ever you call them are fakers.
its one or the other your either Jewish or Christian
after all who ever heard of a Muslim Buddhist
2006-08-05 20:05:40
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answered by Gamla Joe 7
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Messianic Jews are trying to deceive. Be not of them, for they are frauds. OH my mistake , Im not jewish at all. Not one of the chosen people. I am goy.
2006-08-03 07:00:10
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answered by willberb 4
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I'm not Jewish rather my wife is (I'm the proverbial Catholic). When I asked her she said they're an interesting group. Follows teachings of Jesus, identifies with Judaism rather then Christianity, but not recognized by Israel. Yea, interesting group indeed.
2006-08-03 07:06:05
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answered by Sick Puppy 7
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Christians in sheep's clothing.
I blame the leaders and funders of these organizations (for example, the southern baptists); most of the laymen of those ministries don't realize what they're involved in.
Essentially, it was invented as a way to more effectively missionize jews. very deceptive and wrong.
2006-08-03 06:59:01
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answered by Anonymous
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