It would not have been logically impossible if the creed said that Jesus was somewhat divine and somewhat human. But this is expressly what the creed denies. For orthodox Christians, Jesus cannot possess only some human qualities; he must possess all. He must be fully human. At the same time, he cannot possess only some divine qualities; he must have all. He must be fully divine. This is impossible because to be fully divine means one has to be free of human limitations. If he has only one human limitation then he is not God. But according to creed he has every human limitation. How, then, can he be God?
2006-08-02
14:27:39
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answer to married_so_l...:
it implies that with your human limitations you are believing something ABSURD. why trust your intellect??
2006-08-02
14:35:34 ·
update #1
answer to jp:
Sorry I won't believe it. I don't want to go to Hell by blashpheming God.
2006-08-02
14:36:50 ·
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answer to Terry S:
very very STUPID logic. i am not my own father.
2006-08-02
14:38:13 ·
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answer to arewethereyet:
because it is hard to understand how people can believe in such stupid craps.
2006-08-02
14:39:22 ·
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It is written that the fullness of God is with Him. If we see Him, we see the Father.
He put on humanity, born of a virgin. He was like the first Adam was before the fall. He didn't have the sin nature that is passed down through the man's sperm.
He had all Spiritual authority, but He chose to operate as a man anointed by the Holy Spirit. He did this to be an example for us. He had to be tempted the same as the first Adam and not sin. He did this. He had to be sinless to be the Lamb of God without blemish. He was made sin for us. He bore our sins on the cross. Since He was sinless, death could not keep him in the Grave. The wages of sin is death. The gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ rose from the dead.
He is our High Priest forever & He sits at the right hand of God with all authority. He has given us everlasting life if we choose to receive it from Him.
Because of this God has given him a name above all names. Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess Yeshua Messiah is Yahweh.
There are three that bare record in Heaven, the Father, the Word & the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in the earth; the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these things agree in one (1 John 5: 7,8).
All three is the one from everlasting. The Father, Word & Holy Ghost = God in Heaven.
2006-08-02 15:01:55
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answered by t a m i l 6
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Listen to you saying what Jesus "must" do. Do you think God works by man's "logic"? As much as I am fully man, and fully son, and fully brother and fully human all at the same time, God, who can do anything, can be God and Man at the same time. Do you think creating a human from dust is easier for God to do than lowering part of His omnipresent self to take on the form of a man? It is you that gives God human limitations.
2006-08-02 21:35:09
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answered by impossble_dream 6
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Part of being divine includes the ability to limit himself to the four space-time dimensions occupied by man, as well as the ability to limit himself to the human needs of food, drink and rest. By doing this, Jesus became a man, yet remained God because he could at any time lift those limits off himself.\
You can do the same, to a degree, by limiting your thoughts to those you think a dog might have, and by walking on all fours and panting, etc. You have voluntarily limited yourself, but at any time you can lift those limitations. The difference is that God can limit himself much more completely and even take on the physical characteristics of man.
2006-08-02 21:34:02
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answer #3
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answered by Tim 4
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Yes I did. God tells us why you can't use yours,
Here is why.
BIBLE: KJV according to sourses:
What does God call them? Preach love to them? Lets see what God says, to do with them.
You have unbeliever's, Chaff, Scoffers.
An Atheist is a "scoffer". The WORD of God, clearly tells, ATHEISTS are filhty rags they are, and to stay away from them, and avoid them. We are NOT to plant seeds. God knows it is useless and that is why he tells us, "You stand firm against them" ( Jer.17:8 14:1 Iah 44:4) You disassociate them completely. Any Believer that does not abide in God's own Word, does not know God, according to God Himself.
Atheists are "chaff" A simile of the wretchedness of the wicked. Chaff is carried away by the lightest wind, and it's removal brings about cleansing by extracting what is utterly useless. (Ruth 1:22). They will NOT stand in the judgment. They will NOT be able to withstand God's wrath when He judges.( Pslams 76:7 Exra 9:15). This is not my opinion, this is God's very own Words, in the Bible. You know, the BIble? The same Bible atheist scholars quote. There is a reason God, said this. Psalms.1.1-3 Jer. 17:8 14:1 12. 1-2 18:9-10 Prov1.10-19 (vs 5) scoffers:(atheists) those who ridicule God and definatley reject His Law. Prov 1.:22 Ruth 1:22 Jer 18:7 (pull down-destroy) 1:10 (evil-calamity) 18:11
Pslams 1:
godly wisdom here, declare the final outcome of the two "ways". The paths of "sinners" (unbelievers) and the "way of the righteous. he speaks progressively of assoociation with the ungodly and participation in they're ungodly ways.
God said it. End of Story. Jesus Himself said "Let the dead bury they're dead".
Use all the Internet and Dictionaries they want to and call themselves anything they wish. God "defined" what they are by His own Holy Word.
They can hang a dog tag* around they're neck in the pits if hell itself and separate each other by name categorically.
God's Word said it. By God's definition. They are nothing but filthy rags. There is NO opinion.
Hate? Where do you get hate? If God's TRUTH is hate too you, then, so be it. You and God, can and will discuss the means of your scriptural interpretation, consisting with a man-made defacto on a motion of plea bargin I guess. I dunno.
I W I L L . P R A Y . F O R . A L L . A T H E I S T S. :)
2006-08-02 22:16:01
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answered by Anonymous
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The rules that are set for humanity are not imposed in His nature. God is not bound to His created universe.
Thus God could redeem, or fulfill all the ancient Covenants established for Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and King David in His Son Jesus the Christ with the New Covenant.
He is free of human limitations but He chose to redeem humanity in human form. Thus Adam failed to fulfill the original creation in the flesh of sole humanity, so God the Father sent His own Son to redeem in the flesh and the Divine Spirit. This makes this sacrifice perfect/complete than all others with God in control.
Thus through this personal sacrifice God redeemed humanity for our weaknesses. He opened the flesh to be redeemed in Spirit and flesh.
2006-08-02 21:45:43
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answered by Lives7 6
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Jesus(peace be upon him)is not a God.
he is God's messenger,he is a prophet.
there is only one God who creates the whole universe from the beginning,and that God doesn't need a son,he doesn't need a partner,why should he have?
Jesus is like Adam(peace be upon them)God created him from dust and said Be and he was.
and how could someone believes that the one God have three different characters?1+1+1=1??? it's confusing!!if someone believes that, it means he believes that there are three different Gods sharing the control of this universe,and that will be a disaster!!
You are right! any one who have a brain can't believe that a human can be a God or vice versa!
to read more about this fact ,please visit these sites:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm
http://www.saaid.net/islam/6.htm
http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/jesus.html
http://www.jesus-or-allah.com/
http://www.islamfortoday.com/galvan03.htm
http://www.muslimslovejesus.org/default.asp
2006-08-02 21:48:07
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answered by IQ girl 2
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It is perfectly possible for One who is in three Persons, to be both fully human and fully divine. I agree with married_so_leave me_alone, and believe it with my little human mind. What effect could my limited mental capacity have on the truth or untruth, possibility or impossibility, of the concept itself?
2006-08-02 21:52:13
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answer #7
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answered by Anonymous
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>>>But according to creed he has every human limitation<<<
Not quite true. He was a human being like us -- in all things but sin. Thus, it's not true that "He has every limitation."
Why can't He be fully God and fully human? With God, all things are possible!
2006-08-02 21:47:10
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answered by Anonymous
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Let's start with the assumption that Jesus was/is fully God. If Jesus is fully God, then He is all-powerful. If He is all-powerful, He can do anything He so desires. What is to prevent an all-powerful God from becoming man while retaining all of His godly power and attributes?
2006-08-02 22:01:58
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answered by mle_trogdor2000 2
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But amazingly, He did it anyway! Yes, Christ is both Fully God and Fully Man.
I'm sorry that doesn't fit in the logical little box that you have for the Awesome Creator of the universe...
2006-08-02 21:45:10
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answered by Paul McDonald 6
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