Can you give me one *logically valid* reason to believe that any gods really exist?

Answer 1

Nope, thats the point in faith, to believe in something that may or may not be true.

Answer 2

Well, it is almost like plugging one's ears and challenging the teacher to 'teach' !
I said 'almost' .... When a condition is laid down "logically valid", it restricts the answer to a near impossibility, like asking an elephant to be packed in an empty match box!...
Why it so, is because, logic and reason are domains of mind which can accept inputs only through sense organs. Each of these sense organs are of very limited capability. So, why not use the same logic to look at a possibility, "may be something could exist , that can be perceived only with a deeper level of awareness, a deeper perceptional range, and may be within " ?
It is the urgency to discount that is the hurdle rather than the difficulty of proving , and at least this fact can be confirmed with genuine and sincere scientists !

Answer 3

Chalkbrd gave you the answer. That IS logically valid. You have to admit that either you posess infinite knowledge or you could be wrong about something.

Can you make the claim that there are no spiders in Russia with 5 legs? You can't be certain of that unless you search every inch of Russia at the same time. Because if you search one section, the possibility of the spider moving from one section that you haven't searched to the section you already searched is possible.
If I was in Moscow and a 5 legged spider dropped in my lap, then I can claim there is at least one because I've seen it. You would have to admit that it's possible even though you haven't seen it.

The same goes with God. Either you have infinite knowledge that God doesn't exist because you know everything or you have to admit that there is a possibility that God exists.
Christians are speaking from the personal experience of knowing God. So, we don't have to search any more because we have found Him. For you to claim that there are no 5 legged spiders in Russia, when I have seen one is a futile argument. You will never convince me there are no 5 legged spiders in Russia. Which is why you will never convince a Christian that God doesn't exist.

Answer 4

Sure. You should believe that at least one God exists because God appeared on television yesterday, announced his existence to the entire world (you can find the broadcast on YouTube if you missed it), and then resurrected everyone who died in the last ten years, exchanged the orbits of Jupiter and Saturn, moved the stars to spell out "I am God,"and performed other globally visible and documented miracles for our benefit.

Of course, this argument is not _sound_, because the premises are a load of bullhockey, but it is logically valid, in the sense that the premises do entail the conclusion

Answer 5

There's nothing like gods but there is a God and "You" are the most logically valid reason He exists.

Answer 6

How do you know Abraham Lincoln existed? The photos could be fake, the documents made up, entire stories, a complete false set of history fabricated just to fool you. And yes - since you cant verify that there is no vast conspiracy going on, you accept it.

Do you get what I am driving at? Since I am not saying Abraham Lincoln did not exist, that leaves you with another consideration when it comes to God. Faith has to kick in somewhere.

Answer 7

HOW ABOUT 7!
There are seven basic proofs God exists. Properly, they belong in a separate book all by themselves, but I will cover them briefly here.
(1) That there is a great CREATION is obvious. The very fact of the existence of THINGS; the universe, the solar system, the earth and all myriad forms of life upon it, demands a CREATOR!
(2) The existence of great, immutable, powerful LAWS (and I speak of the "laws" governing the physical universe; the laws of science and chemistry; laws governing the action of water in its three states; the cleavage and fracturing properties of minerals; gravity, inertia, isostasy, etc., etc.). The existence of these great laws demands a lawgiver!
(3) The intricacy of complex design; whether the feathers on the wing of a bird; the eye of a fly; the breathing apparatus of a dolphin; billions of intricately-designed snowflakes; your own muscular, skeletal, digestive and circulatory systems-etc., etc., requires a great DESIGNER!
(4) LIFE exists. Life in myriad forms. You and I both know that life only comes from preexisting life! This is called the "law of biogenesis." Life demands a great LIFE GIVER!
(5) Life only comes from preexisting life of the same kind! Thus, there is procreation, and the sustaining of life on our planet; the constant recycling of falling trees, rotting vegetation; the bacteria which break it down to become food for the insects which are food for dozens of other creatures, which are in turn food for larger creatures, which are in turn food for man; the cyclical character of our symbiotic environment which, like a gigantic machine was once "wound up," and is gradually running down, requires a sustaining force. Inherent within this proof are the laws governing the "conservation" of energy" and the laws of thermodynamics. It is obvious our universe has a great sustaining force-a GREAT SUSTAINER!
(6) Fulfilled prophecies, of which there are dozens, with dozens more yet to be fulfilled, constitute a great proof of Almighty God. Even simple high school or beginning college-level Bible handbooks such as Halley's, or the Angus Bible Handbook contain fascinating proofs from the spade of archeologists corroborating the prophecies of men who foretold the collapse of great empires and the emergence of others centuries and centuries beyond their own lifetime. Now, we are able to look back at such men as Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and others, and see what they foretold actually HAPPENED exactly as they foretold it!
Many of the biblical prophecies are in process of being fulfilled. The serious student of biblical archeology knows that it is axiomatic that, wherever archeology reveals information about ancient civilizations, it always corroborates the biblical record, never refutes it!
(7) The final proof-one which dyed-in-the-wool disbelievers will doubtlessly scoff at-is answered prayer! Of course. God does not answer the prayers of skeptics and disbelievers. However, those individuals who have experienced the answer to PRAYER; those who have been healed of their sicknesses and diseases, who have actually seen miracles performed, are no longer doubting, but believing. Answered prayer is definitely a proof that there is a God who can hear. and answer

Answer 8

In looking at the answers, and subtracting the answers that say (in essence) that there is no evidence, the remaining answers seem to amount to nothing more than a treatise on logical fallacies. The 'Argument from Incredulity' and 'Appeal to Authority' seem to be the most popular.

ernest77h should be given some sort of recognition for providing the most creative example of "If you can't blind them with science, then baffle them with bullsh*t."

Answer 9

You won't find it.
Gods are imaginary creatures, just like fairies and leprechauns. None of them exist in the real world.
Ergo, a logically valid reason does not exist.

Answer 10

Nope! Only speculation and maybes. Christians claim "I *KNOW* he exists", but they all really mean is 'I believe'. Afterall, 'knowing' implies scientific evidence, because people being so sure, is a chemical response in the brain, which can be influenced by chemicals, disorders, and the power of the mind to want to see something that isn't apparently there.

Answer 11

To say definitively that no gods exist mean that you have all knowledge in the universe (otherwise, there would always be a possibility that you were wrong). If you have all knowledge in the universe, then you are, by definition, a god. If you are a god, then you cannot deny that gods exist.