[Mature Topic] Abortion....?

Question

If one believes that religion should not dictate such topics as abortion, than all things pertaining to religion must be excluded as well. Such things include the soul and the beginning of life (not just legally, even blacks were once NOT human legally).

Without such debates, why would an unborn child (especially with a formed brain, heart, and lungs) not be considered a "pre-adolescent"? What science proves unborn children are not living?

Answer 1

I agree with you. I mean..All we have to do is re-define anything in order to justify opressing it. Today, it is okay to kill a fetus on the grounds that it is not yet a human being but tomorrow, all we have to do is redefine "human" to exclude a newly born baby that has yet to experience life and thus can not contribute to the human race and therefore be considered human. So then, it would be legal to kill that newborn baby.

Of course, this arguement extends much farther out then just abortion but it's a starting point.

Answer 2

Unborn children are 'alive', but if the mother died, then so would the unborn child. The problem with the pro life movement is that it doesn't acknowledge the bigger picture. If life were perfect, every child would be a wanted child. But it isn't perfect. Children are sexually abused and become pregnant, women are raped and become pregnant, teenagers (or younger) are having unprotected sex and becoming pregnant, some women risk death if they carry a child full term for whatever genetic reason...the list goes on.

If the world banned abortion, these problems would still remain.

However, women would still abort unwanted babies the world over. Unfortunately, they would be forced to return to the bad old days where exploitative people carried out illegal abortions in unhealthy environments, often resulting in the death of the mother aswell.

And if they didn't have the money to pay for this, they would try it themselves. The old wives tale of drinking gin to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy did not originate from nowhere.

We do not live in a perfect world. It is better to have legal and medical control over abortion than to leave it to non-professionals.

Answer 3

Even scientists have been debating what classifies as "living." I'm personally all for "if it's conceived, it's alive." I may have a different take on things because after 5 years of thinking I was infertile, there was no way I was going to give up having a baby, even if it was unplanned. I think the reason why abortion is legal before 12 weeks is because the chance of miscarriage is really good then, so getting an abortion is increasing the chance of miscarriage to 100%, rather than 25%. I dunno. That's just a personal theory. Many, myself included, believe that the baby is alive the moment the heart begins to beat. Some feel that all parts of the baby must be in place in order to consider it human (excluding deformaties, of course). I'm not entirely sure that there's a been a set answer as to what really counts as alive in terms of abortion. All we have right now is the legalities of it not being murder before 12 weeks, so long as the woman has consented to it.

Answer 4

I think that the idea is that the unborn child couldn't survive outside the womb. You've heard comedians refer to unborn babies as parasites?
As science has gotten better at saving premature babies, people have adapted to seeing late-term unborn children as children. (ie: laws against partial-birth abortions, dr.s refusing to do abortions after about half-way through the pregnancy, and the courts prosecuting murderers of pregnant women with two murders)

But take into consideration the fact that HALF of all pregnancies end in spontanious abortion (aka miscarriage). That's a scientific fact. Most of those happen in the first month of pregnancy, so many women never realize that they're pregnant. But many happen later, in not only the first, but second and third trimesters.

Human evolution has developed this option to insure that babies arn't born with serious defects. Many times, the new ball of cells will never develop into organs and a human. Many times, they do. Any woman who has had a miscarriage will tell you she mourned the child. But by nature, that child wasn't an independant organism yet.

We as a people don't really know when to draw that line. Nature is pretty good at it. Nature draws the line: labor starts, the baby's body changes, the baby's heart changes to stop using filtered mother's blood through the placenta and umbilical cord, and the baby's blood is directed for the first time to the baby's lungs, the baby is born, and the lungs expand and take in air, and immediately, the baby will root for the mother's breast to feed.

The mother doesn't trigger this. A chemical released by the baby starts these changes, including the mother's labor.

Happily, nature draws that line when she's ready. Few people die from their body discovering a fault in the DNA or one of the organs and subsequently shutting down. Perhaps a small percentage of unexplained SIDS cases. Mabie those thirty year olds you hear about who drop dead walking to their mailbox one morning.

In my own opinion, I feel that life is sacred. And although I can't imagine any situation in which I would have an abortion, I think it should remain every woman's choice. If you declare fetuses to be people, you begin a snowball effect that could result in women being charged for murder if they have a miscarriage after having too much coffee or forgetting their prenantal vitamins. But at the same time, I don't believe that anyone has the right to blatent disregard for an unborn child's well-being. I think cruel or abusive actions (ie drug use) should be prosecuted. (The duplicitous nature of the topic has forced me to vote republican.)

There is a need to preserve personal freedoms. Just like it bugs me that my phone might be tapped, and I don't think people over the age of 18 should have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle, and I think that if you can fight in a war you should be able to have a beer.

But that's just my observation and my personal opinion, I don't know how valid it is.

Answer 5

There are some people in this world who don't believe in science.

I on the other hand am Buddhist and believe that from the moment of conception that there is life. Therefore i don't know the answer to your question. I have the same wonders as you... I know that this question has something to do with whether the child is conscious at that time.

Answer 6

My advice: think of very hard till now you proceed your dating with your modern-day boyfriend. you have already got 2 strikes against you in his ideas – you had intercourse with another guy, have been given pregnant, and had an abortion. On appropriate of that, you're carrying your disenchanted emotions approximately that into your dating with him, and he has little desire of progressing to conventional intercourse with you any time quickly. He would contemplate whether you will ever be waiting to take a seat down back, whether you 2 get married. this is time for some regrouping. you have had a coarse time bodily and emotionally. A era of celibacy could be an exceedingly solid ingredient till now you attempt to proceed with a severe love interest. Many youthful women on your difficulty have benefited from sympathetic counseling -- this is nicely worth a attempt. it slow interior the destiny, you will meet a youthful guy with whom you may initiate throughout. by that element, you ought to have come to words with your abortion, to the element the place you may envision a classic courtship which will carry approximately marriage and a kin. while the 2nd is solid, have that awkward verbal replace, pointing out that it became such an adverse adventure which you do no longer want to probability having to pass by way of it ever back. do no longer communicate approximately "taking issues slowly" on condition that seems such as you're promising to have pre-marital intercourse after a at an identical time as, merely no longer now. tell him you have been badly burned, so which you comprehend the seriousness of a sturdy marriage, no longer in basic terms the fashion of intercourse that maximum of youthful human beings indulge at modern-day. If he's the suitable suited style of guy, he will see you as a survivor, somebody with a sturdy ethical compass that became accomplished by way of very own difficulty.

Answer 7

I've been reading some of the same answers by the same people on abortion answers for the past two months. I can't understand why they can't give a better explanation instead of putting the same dumb answers. Any person that desires to know about abortion should go to web sites. They need to read personal testimonies of regretful mistakes that people were suckered into because of selfish motives. People that abort don't want to responsible for their mistakes. They are selfish people
that want you to make the same mistake they made.

Answer 8

The moment of conception is the moment that the child has a soul. It says that we are fearully and wonderfully made. Children, planned or unplanned, should be given the opportunity to live. And of course we know that they are living. I believe people will just about convince themselves of anything if it means easing their consciences.

Answer 9

I wonder myself. What scientific evidence proves the being unliving? Plants are considered living.

Answer 10

Myself I am pro life, however I think the argument is not that it is not alive, but that a woman has a right to her own body, and does not have to be pregnant if she chooses not to be.