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isn't that just subjecting your self to slavery and bad fashion?

2006-08-02 10:14:01 · 15 answers · asked by NNY 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

by bad fashion i mean head to toe covering

2006-08-02 10:14:18 · update #1

wow, ask a honest question and get slammed, im not a horn dog, or ogle-er, I just want to know why they'd want to have all there freedoms stripped like drive a car, walk alone, ive been to the middle east, i've seen it. i've been to bahrain, kuwait saudi arabia, and women there seem...enslaved. so this is from my experience with what i've seen with my eyes in a place you've probably only read about.

2006-08-02 10:31:56 · update #2

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No, the very fact that women are converting to Islam voluntarily should tell you that obviously they do not despise it.

YOU think that Islam sujects women to bad fashion. But I respect a woman who chooses to cover herself up so that men like you can't oogle at them every second of their lives. Women are more than just a warm body you know. They are more than eye candy for horndogs like you.

I wouldn't want just random men out on the street just staring at my mom or my sister and I wouldn't do it to someone else.

2006-08-02 10:22:30 · answer #1 · answered by The Prince 6 · 1 0

First of all, wow, how insulting. In your question, you seem to equate a Muslim woman with a slave. Plenty of women are pious Muslims without sacrificing their independence nor their freedoms. They are able to choose whether to cover themselves or not. Unfortunately, there are women who are confined to the subjugated female stereotype, but this isn't because of the religion. My view is that it's the male-dominated culture.
For instance, the Indonesian people called the Minangkabau are matriarchal and Muslims. The women own property and pass their wealth to their daughters. And it is the men who marry into the woman's family. There has not been any incompatibility between the religion and women's rights. I should know; my great-grandmother was the matriarch of her clan and was a devout Muslim. She never covered herself and was an educated woman who did not believe that Islam puts men before woman.
Compare that situation with the fanatical Islamists in traditional male-dominated societies who do not allow women to wear makeup or drive because it is against 'religion'. It's a total lie; fabricated because these men are simply misogynists who need to subjugate women in order to feel superior.

PS I am a not a Muslim, but a secular humanist and feel quite distressed that someone could make such uninformed statements regarding a person's religious choice without any thought. Please read more and broaden your viewpoint.

2006-08-02 10:42:11 · answer #2 · answered by bluchelski01 2 · 0 0

Do u think that religion is only about fashion & driving cars & walking alone & etc....

real religion is the one which raising the spirite of the human above that stuff

i am living in Egypt, here we have Muslim women that drive cars, walking alone, dressing modern fashions, everything u want (BUT in an Islamic way that respect the woman & her feelings)

i hope u will visit Egypt & see

2006-08-02 12:45:44 · answer #3 · answered by Kevin 5 · 0 0

Religion is much deeper than I think you realize. It has a lot to do with faith, tradition, parenting, and even fear. I would suggest you read up on the history of Muslims if you are serious about this question.

FYI: no i am not a Muslim, or a Christian or any other religion for that matter.

2006-08-02 10:19:57 · answer #4 · answered by darkenbinary 2 · 0 0

Brian,

Let me first say that I am not a Muslim, nor am I a woman. I do, however, have many friends who are both of the above and have spent the past couple of months learning more about the wonderful, peaceful religion of Islam. Therefore, I feel it is my duty to share some insight with you. I hope you don't mind.

To assume that women who embrace Islam are subjecting themselves to slavery and bad fashion is absurd, uneducated, and absolutely incorrect in every sense of the word. Perhaps I can encourage you to read some books about the Prophet Mohamed and Islam in general which would enlighten your narrow, worldy views of Islam and provide you with a more profound, intelligent, and truthful perspective.

In response to your question: Women in Islam are held in a very precious and sacred light. They are mothers, companions, wives, friends, and are viewed by societies as precious jewels. I can only assume from the comment you make about "bad fashioin" that are referring to the veil that many women of Islam wear. This veil is a symbol of integrity and modesty. Women are beautiful creations from God, wouldn't you agree? Many women in society today wear whatever they wish. This includes shorts that are revelaing of their ***, tops without bras that allow their breasts to float in every direction possible. They do whatever they can to attract the attention of the opposite sex in a way that is lustful--and for what purpose? For a one night stand? This is terrible Brian. You should know that the veil is not mandatory/obligatory. I know many beautiful Muslim women that do not wear the veil yet retain the same level of dignity and reverential respect in the way they dress.

The point: It's not bad fashion. Perhaps people in Islamic countries view Pamela Anderson's garb as bad fashion. Your thoughts on this topic are relative to your ability to be open minded and the mainstreams of American society. The veil and dresses that cover the body are symbols of reverence towards and modesty towards the beautiful body God created.

This comes from Surah al-Nur of the Koran:
Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well aware of what they do. (24:31)

In terms of the slavery, I must admit that I do not know what you are reffering to. I can only say that you must get an image of Muslim women from the media that show them as "property" which they are not. Women in Muslim countries do exhibit a loyalty towards their husbands but this is done with pleasure. They are in no means property of anyone and serve because they wish to please others. If everyone lived with this willingness to serve others wouldn't the world be so much greater? Men are considered the head of the household, even in America. The comparison of Muslim women to slaves may be turthful in extremist-sects, but not true Islam. Extremism exists everywhere, Christianity included.

I would encourage you to read "Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet" by Karen Armstrong.

Good luck in all your endeavors and keep your mind open.

Nathan

2006-08-02 10:51:43 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The wearing of the veil by women is an illogical premise to claim that women are inferior to men. It is more appropriate to indict a society of female exploitation if it tolerates pornography rather than if it enforces the veil. Given that Allah is neither male nor female, given that He does not endear people to Himself based on their gender, given that the Creator cares about all of us male or female, given that the sexual and violent drive of men is stronger than that of women..

The Bible:

Leviticus 15:19-30 Explains that a woman having her menstruation must be avoided to the point of not even touching what she has touched. It is curious that women are punished for simply having a biological function that “God” claims to have created. What is so just about vilifying what you created?
Deuteronomy 20:13-15 Kill all the men and boys in the cities that God “delivers into your hands,” but keep the women for raping.

Deuteronomy 21:11-14 I

If you see a pretty woman among the captives then just take her home and “go in unto her.”

"Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as christ also is the head of the church, he himself being the savior of the body. But as the church is subject to christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)

• "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (1 Corinthians 14:34)

2006-08-02 10:47:44 · answer #6 · answered by Biomimetik 3 · 0 0

Underneath many burkas you will find Haute Couture fashion. They just wear the burkas outdoors. Muslim women are not slaves, they weild power in the home.

2006-08-02 10:20:40 · answer #7 · answered by ? 6 · 0 0

well, your answer is that

How can a woman wants to become a nun.

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slavery is prohibited in islam

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"And they (women) have rights similar to those of men over them in a just manner" Qur'an, 2:228


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http://www.jannah.org/genderequity/
http://www.jamaat.org/islam/WomanMarriage.html

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/women/

video of "womans rights in islam - modernizing or outdated" >> see the bottom of this page http://www.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFilesP.aspx?TitleID=50027&TitleName=Zakir_Naik

2006-08-02 10:20:06 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

where do you get that it is slavery?? why must you say things you know nothing about or you make your own assumption of things? choosing to become a Muslim is a good choice..at least in my mind..so why should you say it is wrong?? if you want to know something --ask in nice way..

2006-08-02 11:32:50 · answer #9 · answered by ? 5 · 0 0

Salam!

I am a new muslima but I never realized that I am a slave :) I have no husband, I wear my hijab voluntary and I think is nice and I love it.
Nathan, MashaAllah.

2006-08-02 13:07:55 · answer #10 · answered by Nora 1 · 0 0

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