i like the idea that jesus wasnt perfect and did commit sin, cuz if he didnt than hes not really human is he?

Answer 1

I like your question, and I agree with you.

But of course some bible-hugger is gonna be like "Jesus wasn't human, he rose from the dead! Humans cannot do that, Jesus was far better than humna, blah fuckign blah."

Everyone sins. It's true. You may be "forgiven", but everyone does sin.

Answer 2

You struggle with the same issues that the church has struggled with for years. The first and biggest challenge that the early church faced was this very idea that you bring up (i.e. Jesus couldn't have been human, or at least not completely human all of the time). There were all kinds of views on the subject. The early church concluded however priort to 400 A.D. that Jesus was truly but not always comprehensibly 100% God and 100% man at the same time. It is called the doctrine of the incarnation- God became a man and it is well enunciated in the Gospel of John, chapter 1.

It is indeed a mystery for any Christian of any age to ponder. But, when the whole of what the New Testament teaches is weighed, this is the logical and scripturally stated conclusion.

Today, we don't struggle with the humanity of Jesus as much as we do with the diety of Jesus. But the church has always held to the "both and" theology of Jesus while at the same time struggling with the "either or" that you seem to be pondering as well.

Peace.

Answer 3

Jesus was human. Just because he didn't sin doesn't mean he wasn't, it just means he was a perfect, complete human. Adam was a human too, who was perfect for a while, but eventually he did sin. The whole purpose Jesus had to be perfect, and human, was to prove that humans can serve God, can remain perfect in integrity to Him, even in an imperfect world. Adam did not become human once he sinned. He was always created as a human, just became incomplete because he lost that close relationship with God that Jesus had and we strive for.

Answer 4

Maxlebo93,

While it may make us a little more comfortable to think of Jesus as a sinner, it really doesn't make us any better. We all get a little uneasy in the presence of those who seem superior to us. It always gives us a little ego boost to see those who are greater than ourselves, stumble. You needn't worry about the One called Jesus. He didn't come to this world to make us look bad. He came to give us a message: "The Kingdom of God, is within you". When we approach God as humble children, and invite Him into our hearts, He sends His Spirit into us, and bonds with us. We become new creatures, part mortal, part Immortal. Materialism and fear begin to die out in us. Love and Wisdom, become the foundation of all our choices. In time, the desire to do that which hurts God, and ourselves, goes away. What you call sin, becomes irrelevant, because for you, it's a dead issue. Then we don't have to compare ourselves to anyone, except our Father. The important thing to remember, is that no matter what our sins have been, God is willing and ready to wipe the slate clean, and erase it from His memory. He only asks, that we be sincere in our repentance. That means we have to be tired of causing pain and suffering, and ready to walk the path of Love. Jesus didn't come here to live a sinless life, to show us how horrible we are. He lived a sinless life, to show us how it's done.

Answer 5

Jesus was flesh the same as you and me, yet He never committed a sin. He did take on the sins of man in the garden of Gethesemeni and was crucified for the sins of ALL men so that we can be fogiven for our sins and spend eternity in the presence of God.
Jesus was concieved by the Holy Spirt and born of a virgin birth, so unlike men of His time He had union with the Holy Spirit. It was by the Holy Spirit's power that he overcame the sin that we are all tempted with.
The same works for us today, we have the power through the Holy Spirit to not commit sin if we will deny our own ways and seek God's will for our life.

Answer 6

Are you really arguing that the fundamental aspect of human nature is the fact that humans commit sins? How can this be, when God created man "in His own image and likeness?" Also, note that humans existed before they committed sin (cf. Adam and Eve before the Fall.)

Rather, I would argue that true human nature can either be defined as "rational animal" or "made in the image and likeness of God." (Side note: these are not mutually exclusive. I'm not saying that you were arguing this, I'm just pointing it out.)

Answer 7

Actually, salvation couldn't work if that were so. The whole idea was that one who is without sin is the only one who can pay another's sin debt. If Jesus sinned, He could only die for His own sins, not yours. Jesus is the PERFECT man, like us in all things BUT sin. Otherwise He couldn't help us.

Answer 8

Actualy, humanity is not defined by its sin or weaknesses. It is defined by God as he created it. As sin is a perversion of truth, sin does not make you human.

Therefore, Jesus was the most human of all. He was an example of absolute uncontaminated humanity.

Answer 9

He never committed sin. He was just tempted by the devil just like all of us. But since he has the power to win, he did not listen to the devil. And he WAS a human. God in human flesh...

Answer 10

Yes, Jesus was absolutely Human, but human as namkind was always meant to be, that is huuman as man would have been without original sin. But yes, Jesus was fully human.

Answer 11

Actuly he was 100 pecent man and 100 percent God. We needed a perfect man to save us. Thats Jesus. He died on the cross for us. He saved us from hell. He was not guilty of anything. Read John 3;16 in the Bible.