If you are in the military and you kill people becausae you are ordered too then what? What if you are the one that made the order? Do you see a difference in if the person inlisted or was drafted?
2006-08-02 03:29:52 · 27 answers · asked by Brad 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Tim Miller No i have not been to war but i do know family memebers father and grandfather who have. I'm not saying i know what im talking about when it comes to being in the military during war. I do believe that if being attacked you must defend yourself and that if you are ordered you must follow them. It is amazing how much the bible contradicts itself. But i guess all that matters in the end is that you ask for forgiveness and truely mean it.
2006-08-02 03:56:01 · update #1
Actually, the correct translation of that commandment is "Thou shalt not murder." My understanding is that theologians say that killing in a war is not considered murder. Tell that to the dead people. But you know the believers can always find a loophole.
2006-08-02 03:33:53 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 6⤋
Murder and killing are the same end result with two entirely different beginnings. Murder generally starts with the muderer having some advantage or motive over the slain. Two peopkle with knives, fighting for their belief is not murder; both have a weapon, both have a belief and each has made a decision to die to try to promote their belief. A man killing an intruder in his home while protecting his family is just better prepared or luckier at promoting his belief, but he is not a murderer. The intruder came in with the intent of gaining the advantage and just got beat. Replace individuals with countries and armies and the same thing applies.
2006-08-02 10:45:11 · answer #2 · answered by buck_i_46 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Bible does not say "Thou shall not Kill" It says that "Thou shall not commit Murder." There is a difference. Murder is a planned PERSONAL ACT. Killing takes place in the course of life (intended and unitended). There is also a difference in the case of war or military action. God himself told the children of Israel to go to war in instances. This meant that people would die. If you enlist or if you were drafted, there is no real difference.
2006-08-02 10:36:31 · answer #3 · answered by E Y 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think you can conult the Book of Leviticus and the Gospel of Luke for guidance here.
In Leviticus, it is stated that Christians may own slaves as long as they are NOT from your nation. In the bible's new testament Gospel of Luke it is stated that you may beat your slave, but only to the degree they deserve.
The guidance we can learn from this is:
If the person being killed is from another nation, the bible's rules about not killing don't apply.
If the person is beneath us (a slave) than they should be traeted as they deserve (which is somewhat subjective, isn't it?).
^^ The above is an attept to show any scripture can be used to comply or conradict any stand.
2006-08-02 10:42:34 · answer #4 · answered by IknowNothing 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In the Crusades from 1059 to 1289 millions have been killed by soldiers led by the Holy Church in the Vatican City. It was in reply to the Jihad by the Muslims in the West and the Europe. Bible was rightly forgotten by the Pope himself to save his followers.
2006-08-02 10:38:12 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It doesn't matter who did the order. You should still not kill. If you jumped out of a 20 story window because someone told you, that means you did not kill yourself? You still chosed to do these actions.
2006-08-02 10:33:49 · answer #6 · answered by Sugars 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Thanks For Your Question :)
But I think war is necessary some times....I mean if you are being attacked you cant just sit there looking at your country being destroyed .
God says in The Quraan : Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.
As you see here God says "you dislike it" because its obvious who loves war and destruction ....but as I said some times its necessary
2006-08-02 10:44:48 · answer #7 · answered by abouterachess 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The 10 commandments are things that related a person to God or a person to another person. They do not refer to a country or a governing body or king. You can't take the commandments and apply them to wars or the death penalty. That's not how they were intended.
2006-08-02 10:35:20 · answer #8 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
People fight and kill in wars because that is what their govt orders them to do. Jesus said "render unto Caesar (govt) that which is Caesar's". God has established govts (even the bad ones) to serve His purpose. We are not in position to understand how a govt that condones or commits ethnic-cleansing is beneficial to God's purpose, but it is. We are all sinners and we do not have the ability to see this world as God sees it.
2006-08-02 10:50:44 · answer #9 · answered by Robert A 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
death n a battlefield is sanctioned by the state. ie its lawful. the chain of command stops at georges desk, someone writes the orders someone else pulls the trigger. its war. people die.
the religious implications are between you and your god and your rmoral consciousness. if the war is deemed nessescary and legal then it is, if its deemed illegal and unnessescary then it just murder, but you on the trigger end, it makes no differnce, its not you whose carrying the can... you were just obeying orders. the chain of command. its there to safeguard you, as much as it is them.
2006-08-02 10:40:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I wish I knew the scripture reference, but I can't remember it. I remember reading in the old testament that killing wasn't a sin when you were fighting in a war to defend your people (or country). If I find that scripture I will try to get it to you.
2006-08-02 10:35:53 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋