Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
I know my baby is in Jesus' arms.
2006-08-01 14:04:18
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answered by Anonymous
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There is no Hell, other than, perhaps, life on Earth in some areas that people have turned into Hell--usually with their religio-political domination of others.
But even if you do believe such stuff (and I don't believe that you do--I'm guessing that you're trying to show religious people how ridiculous you feel that their beliefs are), then how can you be damned if you were never even born?
Also, not all things that are alive are said, by religious people, to have souls. So a being could theoretically be killed prior to ensoulment, and so there would be no soul to BE damned in that case. (Did you know that the Catholic Church, in the Middle Ages, held that ensoulment didn't even occur until "quickening"--which occurs sometime in the fourth month of pregnancy? Up until that point, they didn't consider a pregnancy to be anything like a "pre-born baby." And women commonly took herbs to abort unwanted pregnancies back then.)
Besides, the vast majority of conceptions (according to scientists, it's fuly 80%) never even get implanted in the womb, for various reasons having nothing to do with contraception-as-abortion (such as genetic defects that are incompatible with life). And about 20% of established and WANTED pregnancies end in miscarriages. All of those "lost babies" could be called "human life" by some religious definitions, but they are not "murdered" "pre-born babies."
Again, I'm not sure why you're choosing to muddle the issue of abortion and damnation-of-innocents. If you're trying to show religio-conservatives the error of their ways, it's probably not gonna fly.
2006-08-01 14:06:14
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answered by Cyn 6
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First of all, they are Babies! They have a life of their own and they have a right to life!
Second, to answer your question... NO. They are not hell bound, They are going straight to God, where He will take care of them. They haven't reached the age of accountability. All babies and young kids are like that. All kids reach the age at different periods... So NO MATTER who the mother, father, family, race, origin and religion, THE BABY IS SAFE IN GOD'S ARMS if they die!!!
I have more to say, as many others might as well, but I'm gonna stop. Since the question asked didn't ask for more information other than where are them poor Babies who never had a chance to live life, love, learn, play, give hugs or even receive one......
2006-08-01 14:11:38
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answered by I'm_Heaven_Bound 1
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Read a book called A Divine Revelation of Heaven by Mary K. Baxter. In it it says that all babies who die, no matter if it is by abortion, natural causes, whatever the cause, go to Heaven and are raised by angels, and live the most incredible lives. It goes into great detail. It really touched me because I had an abortion several years ago foolishly, I was majorly depressed, suicidal, and I made a mistake and had an abortion. I have since then begged for God, Jesus, and my baby to forgive me, and I believe in my heart, that when I go to Heaven, I will be reunited with my baby once again and live with him for eternity.
2006-08-01 14:07:21
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answered by texjade23 2
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Apparently, they made an exception just for this case (well, any child that dies before getting to know christ).
It seems that those aborted fetuses are all in heaven, as they all had automatic passes to the afterlife.
What about those indiginous people of the bush that NEVER knew christ.. what about them?
2006-08-01 14:06:19
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answered by umwut? 6
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A traditional understanding of Christian doctrine would consign babies, and I guess fetuses to hell. After all, "...all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". However, with since that prospect is untenable Christians conveniently - and with no Biblical justification - typically have an "age of consent" line of reason in which they say, "once you are old enough to know right from wrong..." That makes what the Bible says, or doesn't say, on the matter more palatable.
2006-08-01 14:06:04
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answered by rj 2
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i don't think we can make assumptions about things the Bible never addresses.
What the Bible does tell us is that God is a fair and a just God.
There is a story in the Bible that helps me deal with this conflict. David is running from Saul and is hiding in a cave. He asks God what will happen if he goes to this city- and the Lord tells him not to because Saul will kill him and instructs him to go elsewhere. I am reminded that God is omniscient and knows everything about us- everything to how we will respond, how we will act, etc.
God is a fair and a just God and i leave the question of fetuses up to Him. God knows also in his omniscience how people will respond and takes all that into account i'm sure when He judges righteously who goes to heaven and who doesn't.
2006-08-01 14:05:53
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answered by Nickster 7
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Yes, it is a gift. Going to heaven is always a gift not something that anybody can earn.
Aborted fetuses, embryos, those who die in spontaneous abortions, children who die before Baptism....all good living people are subject to God's judgment.
Since it is his will that all be saved, he can save them by his power. He does not have to follow any rules, even the ordinary ones that he has laid down in the Bible. The law giver is above the law.
2006-08-01 14:20:21
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answered by jakejr6 3
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1) About the fate of aborted fetuses, this would be the standard Baptist answer:
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...Knowing the love and grace of God, God applying Christ’s death to those who cannot believe would seem consistent with His character. It is our position that God applies Christ's payment for sin to young children and those who are mentally handicapped, since they were not mentally capable of understanding their sinful state and their need for the Savior.
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2) As for your suggestion that aborting a fetus might be a "gift" because the child otherwise might have grown up and gone to Hell instead, only God has the right to "play God" with other people's lives (that's his job). Only God can see all possible ends, so only God can decide who is better off dead (or alive).
2006-08-01 14:10:04
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answered by Randy G 7
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Jeremiah 1
5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew {chose} you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."
Job 31:15
15 Did not he who made me in the womb make them?
Did not the same one form us both within our mothers?
Luke 18:16
16But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
It is the very destruction and disdain for our children which dehumanizes us to the degree that we've brought destruction down upon our heads in the past. The Flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, The Exodus and even at the time of Christ there was a mass slaughtering of infants. Jesus says that when He returns it will be as it was in the Days of Noah..well, in Noah's time you would have either walked with God as Noah did or you were into the pagan ritualistic practice of passing your infants through the fire..which by the way consisted of setting them inside the outstretched arms of a pagan god over a fire pit and having them roast to death. I believe that if God knows where every tiny sparrow has fallen then He also would be inclined to see where every small unborn human has been mangled and discarded as so much rubbish. As no child is judged or able to choose the good from the bad up to a certain age then they will be, as His Word declares...of the Kingdom of Heaven. As we all were once..so will Christ make us new again...like little children both in thought and in deed and that is why we are called to recieve Him as a child would if given the oppertunity to live that far. Love in Christ, ~J~ <><
2006-08-01 14:18:31
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answered by Anonymous
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are you suggesting that abortion is a mercy killing so that they can get a one way ticket to heaven? Do you understand how sick that is? All we are saying ("we" being conservatives of course since that's part of your question) is that all life deserves a shot at life. Just because a woman gets pregnant, its not the child's fault. What if the baby is outside the womb? Would it be merciful to kill the child then if the mother was a crack addict? I think not.
Consequently, there is christian theology that believes that unborn childrne might go to hell. Therefore, your argument about abortion being a mercy killing is moot.
2006-08-01 14:08:55
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answered by mesatratah 2
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