Does Jesus shape your life and give u peace and happiness?-im Jewish and he does help me alot-thanks truely?

Question

Jesus said to be the coming prince of peace 700 bce by Isaiah-first to suffer and now for sure comming back not just spirtually as he is here now saving and completing souls, and giving us true inner peace and shaping our lives to be our best creatively and in every way if we let him-
to the person that claims to be MUSLIM JEWISH or believe in GOD- your a fake if you dont believe God's prophet Isaiah your no Jew as i am or Muslim either-get the real picture-you can call me names-say Isaiah lied or God doesnt have a son but this verse tells it like it is-
Isaiah 9 vs 6 "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and he will be the Sar Shalom (the prince of peace), God almighty, and the wonderful counselor."
who shapes your life-yourself-or the God Almighty our wonderfull counselor Messiah Jesus!
about another prediction by the Jewish prophet Zechariah 12 vs 10 "And we shall look on him whom we have pierced-and mourn as one mourneth for his only lostSon"

Answer 1

I'm constantly perplexed as to why Christians are so terribly concerned with what other people think/believe. If the myth of Joshua ben Josef (Jesus, in Greek) gives you comfort and something to look forward to why are you concerned if others agree with your view? Are you looking for confirmation that you're correct? There is nothing so abligious as religion.

Answer 2

Response to what you write: "you can call me names-say Isaiah lied or God doesnt have a son but this verse tells it like it is-
Isaiah 9 vs 6 'Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and he will be the Sar Shalom (the prince of peace), God almighty, and the wonderful counselor":


Lets start with the poor translation first. In short, the words translated as 'is' and as 'will be' should all be past tense. Levy explains more in depth, 'the word which the Christian Bibles render as 'his name shall be called' is the two words 'vayikra shemo,' which properly translated, should be 'called his name' or 'his name was called.' So instead of being a prophecy, it is a recounting of past events. The proper translation sure changes the meaning and context of scripture!

Dr. Uri Yosef agrees, 'the Hebrew text, as reflected in the Jewish translation, uses verbs that are conjugated in the past tense, and which describe a sequence of events that has already occurred.' The rest of the Hebrew scholars seem to concur as well, that the passage has been mistranslated and should be in the past tense. (Goldman 1, Sharpo 1, Avinu 1). Well, I would bet that five Hebrew scholars can't be wrong about their own Jewish text, from their own Jewish heritage, in a language that they are all very familiar with.

So the question remains, as always ' If not Jesus then who? All of the cited scholars seem to agree that it refers to King Hezekiah. According to Levy, the very name Hezekiah means Mighty God. Lets recap, and notice that 'Mighty God' was one of the titles given in this past-tense prophecy. Let us also remember, as Goldman states, 'people or things that serve to represent God or are closely associated with God are given divine titles.' It looks like these titles refer directly to Hezekiah, by name. The entire chapter and those surrounding it explains that it was Hezekiah, Yosef goes into great detail on that, far too much to mention in this limited space.

Although it is clearly describing a past historical event, there are still reasons why Jesus would not fit. To quote Goldman, 'The child's ascension to power is mentioned in a continuous narrative following right on the heels of the child's birth, leaving no room for an atoning death, a resurrection, and nearly 2,000 years of waiting. If the child is the Messiah, then he cannot be Jesus.' Yes, once again, fitting Jesus into this historical account is like fitting a square peg into a round hole. Again we see that in Matthew 10:34 Jesus said that he did not come to bring peace, yet one of the titles in this prophecy is prince of peace. (Levy 2, Yosef 16). It looks to me like even if we accepted the dishonest translations, Jesus still wouldn't fit the prophecy. Then again, it isn't a prophecy to begin with.

So in the long run, we have a historical event taken out of context. We have a description of the 'Prince of Peace', although Jesus stated that he was not the Prince of Peace. We have a timeline that matches perfectly to Hezekiah, but leaves out thousands of years for Jesus. It sure seems to me like it isn't Messianic 'prophecy', but just more Christian twisting. Oh, and one more thing I forgot to mention ' the new testament doesn't once mention this passage in reference to Jesus or the Messiah. Go figure.>

P.S. Isaiah 53 is not "skipped in the synagogue". For more information: http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/faq/faq136.html

Answer 3

Read Isaiah 53, which is skipped in the synaggogue. This describes the suffering of Yeshua, or Jesus.

Find a Messianic congregation where you can worship in the traditional manner and still believe in Yeshua.

Answer 4

One of the basic tenets of Judaism is that the Messiah has yet to come. If you believe in Jesus as the Messiah, you cannot call yourself a Jew.

Jews for Jesus is an oxymoron.

Answer 5

David,
You are a christian. Stop this evil and deceptive form of missionizing. It degrades christianity.

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on the side, isaiah 9 can't be about jesus since, according to christianity, he's the "son" not the "father" (as the verse states). Nor did he have control of the governement (to the contrary, the roman government killed him). And he certainly did not establish "endless peace".

Answer 6

it's not true that "Jews for Jesus" is an oxymoron. Jews were told to wait for a Messiah -- the Messiah came.

i'm glad you've found Christ, and YES i do find peace and security and joy in my relationship with Him, and i hope you will too!

Answer 7

Praise the Lord for you know your Messiah.

Answer 8

Hmm, interesting sentiments. I am starting a part of a Bible commentary now that includes Isaiah. Thanks for sharing.

Answer 9

Call me crazy but I'm not sure what you are asking.

Answer 10

You are exactly right.