Is the real reason why Creationist try to convince us the world is only a few thousand years old because...?

Question

if the universe were actually billions of years old, like it is, then that means that humans aren't all that important in the grand scheme of things?

Since the cosmos has existed for so long without humans, then the earth and the human race are pretty much meaningless when compared to everything else. The entire history of the human race isn't even a mote of dust. We are insignificant.

Since religious people thrive on their egomaniacal interpretations of existence, does this mean that the only idea they will accept is a young earth? A young earth would make humans (and their religions) appear much more important than they actually are.

Of course, there is that whole 'everything in the bible is true' nonsense as well.

eaglemyprick - What rage in my question? Are you projecting just a bit?

Answer 1

The whole concept of religion is very egotistical and self-centered and endorses people to feel very special about themselves.

Out of the entire universe, they claim God chose Earth and created human beings to be his test and lab experiment or whatever.

They feel like as long as they're connected to the creator in some way that makes them important. They couldn't stand to view themselves as some insignificant speck in the universe as it would make them feel insignificant. Most atheists have come to grips with this concept of being a speck of dust on the grand scheme of things and don't mind because they enjoy their existence for what they have. People who believe in religions do so to give meaning to their existence since without it, they would be confronted with the possibility you just laid out before them.

Answer 2

although it's hard to get through your rage in the monologue....

many of my religious friends (i am christian, also) do believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old. that may be true, but the building blocks for it, do date back for billions of years, as seen in the radio carbon testing.

as a scientist, i cannot fully resolve the conflict, however, let me try, but please keep an open mind:

genesis says that God spoke and the heavens and the earth were formed. okay, he did. but did he tell all of the worker bees (angels) to get busy and start moving the matter around to form the earth and the heavens? perhaps that why lucifer was so pi$$ed off, and dropped out of the program.

we already know that there is a curve to the radio-carbon testing that may not be expotenial in it's variations when going back years and decades and centuries, much less a millineum.

if we carbon date a piece of paper, it may show that it is only a few years old, when in fact, the tree that it was produced from, was actually decades or centuries old.

if we carbon date a piece of known material, and that material has been exposed to smoke, in the past, then you will get several ratings on the radio-carbon-dating scale for different areas tested, of the same material.

since this is known, then we have to discount the billions of years of existence, as proved with this method, since we know the entire world has been, at one time, exposed to smoke, dust particles from outerspace, etc.

in essence, the entire universe as a whole, cannot be carbon dated with our current technology, because the rigors of space, the debris that eventually comes to rest on a planet or moon or asteroid, and even the untamed ultraviolet rays from the various suns in the galaxies taint our test material.

therefore, you take the evolution of a galaxy on much more faith, considering it to be an accident, than i do, in believing that God pushed the demolition button for the big bang.

-eagle

Answer 3

If the bigger, fatter, louder, older, more smelly Christians didn't pressure all of the smaller, younger, weaker Christians into going along with this Few Thousand Year Old Universe, they would be more likely to have more respect for the the theories that Science has come up with.

In fact, if it wasn't for all those Bullies, the younger Christians (the ones that have had the benefit of a modern American education) would accept Science for what it is: a collection of theories (many of which have practical uses). BUT, hey. You know how it is.

Needless to say, being an American that can't afford to go galivantin' all across the globe at the drop of a hat, I can't really speak on behalf of any other Country's education system, so don't be offended.

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Answer 4

I'm a Creationist.
I believe the earth is at least 5 billion years old.
I believe our sun was formed from the explosion of a much larger sun that may have formed maybe 1 or 2 trillion years ago.

I believe in the 6th day creation of man.
I believe Dino's walked the earth.
I believe the universe came into being perhaps 5 to 10 trillion years ago.
I believe in Continental drift.
I believe in the bible and its word.
and I believe the bible is TRUTH and found nothing different from what I believe!

Answer 5

I know I am insignificant and I am ok with that. But, we can make a difference in others' lives, making us more significant. I am not usually the first to stereotype, but SOME Christians are lazy and think all of the work has been done for them. They don't want to admit you have to show up and really try and that - yes, there is a lot of confusion in the world and all we can do is try the best we can and hope something good happens in the end if we are worthy and that you cannot rely on someone else for that.

Answer 6

The idea that the world is only thousands of years old belong on the page of the flat-earth theory. I think smart Christians realize this and realize that the Bible is ambiguous on the subject. (What is a day before you have a sun?) I do think your right about people taking an egocentric view of themselves in how they see the universe. Galileo was put on trial by the church for suggesting the Earth was not the center of the universe. Smart people realize that the universe is way to complex for us to understand and that adopting dogma that offers a nice, concise narrative for the creation of the universe is for people who need someone else to do their thinking for them and don't want to be bothered with complex ideas.

Answer 7

The Bible does not state that the world is only a few thousand years old. What it does say is "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." It does not say when "the beginning" was.

Answer 8

True Science claim that the oldest date that this earth could have been here is 10,000 years. We Christians believe that the most can be 10,000 and the least 4,000. So ask the true scientist why it can't be that old.

Answer 9

I Believe that GOD put Human Being's on the EARTH at Different time's (Generation's), only to have them Self-Destruct (War?), over and over again. Maybe even JESUS had to go and Die for them too, HE LOVE"s Human Being's that much.
Something bout' Free-Will, there's just Something about FREE-WILL.

Answer 10

There have been many civilizations throughout time and the Cosmos, some no doubt existing right now in a galaxy far, far, away.

I wonder i they have fundies on their planet?