Why dost some feel Christ is a person?

Question

Surely be it a state of being?
Nay, answer not with the name Jesus, for he was but the messenger of the Christ and they doth be seperate in their complexities.

Christians, feel free to slander, judge and critisize my question and personage, as thou art expert at such things, I find.

Verily there be goodly answers from wise persons, but alas it seemeth there be most that do not knoweth their own beliefs!
I shall pray ye shall find the right path to the Christ one day...

Methinks many people mistake my question to be refering to Jesus. Aye, Jesus was a Man, and verily didst he exist once.
I wast but a Heathen and hater of Elohiym 'till I found the Christ. I didst not findeth Jesus, for he be long dead!
Thou seem to speaketh for God, yet God didst speake to me, when I wast in Christ.
Why dost thou be needful to worship a Man and not Elohiym? Hast thee not foundeth the Christ?

Answer 1

christians, catholics and all other organized religions believe what theyre respective bibles tell them to believe. christ was a person because THEIR big book tells them he was.

Athiests belive thers nothing because they smell the inherent corruption in organised religion and thus are just turned off to the whiole ddamn thing, so they believe nothing at all. Offensively.

Agnostics believe thers something, but any kind of giving it a name or a shape is part and parcel of organised religion and so they just dare preachers and bigg books to name christ a human being so they can sysytematically shoot the idea down- thus, agnostics are actually more athiest than the athiests.

Satanists use all the confusion to promote their own will, figuring well, if nobody here has their shite together, i might as well get mine.

christ as a state of mind, or a state of being, is unacceptable to these groups because if christ WERE just a frame of mind, it would mean it was ok with christ and god and any other deity that i worship from my kitchen table (where theres no donation plate being passed round) or pray from in my car in traffic (where no preacher can fill my thoughts with guilt over not filling the donation plate) or take my children to a field on sundays to show them flowers and butterflies by way of explaining life and god and goodness instead of their big building (where there is, of course, that pesky donation plate.)

christ is a person to these groups because he must be, in order to be an effective tool. they use christ, his name and his supposed image, employing him to their own ends. thus, the christians are more satanic than the satanists. at least he satanists are more honest about their objectives.

but whatever i mean, i just dont like all that singing in church.

Answer 2

The term christ appears in English and most European languages owing to the Greek usage of it in the New Testament as a description for Jesus. In the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, it was used to translate into Greek the Hebrew Mashiach (Messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed". While many Christian writers claim that this term implied a match to the criteria of being anointed that Jewish tradition had given to their predicted future saviour, some argue that there is no "saviour" concept, as suggested in Christianity, in the Jewish tradition. The "anointed" one more closely means 'high priest', 'leader', or even 'ruler'.

In the New Testament it says that a savior, long awaited, had come and shall return, and it describes this saviour the Christ (Greek τοῦ Χριστοῦ, tou Christou, ὁ Χριστὸς, ho Christos). Many ancient Christian groups (such as the Gnostics) used the term anarthrously, as Christ or a Christ, and believed that everyone could become a Christ.

Mainstream usage, though, make Jesus as THE Christ.

Answer 3

Jesus is the Christ. He is the second person of the Blessed Trinity. The word christ means "annointed," which is what Jesus is (isaiah 61). Even Peter said He was "the Messiah, the Son of the living God." From Wikipedia:"In Judaism, the Messiah (מָשִׁיחַ Standard Hebrew Mašíaḥ, Tiberian Hebrew Māšîªḥ, Aramaic משיחא) initially meant any person who was anointed by a prophet of God."

Answer 4

People feel Christ is a person, because He is.

Christian theology explaining the Holy Trinity distills down to this:
One God: Three Divine Persons; God the Father, God the Holy Spirit, and God the Son. All of equal substance, each a unique character, and where one is you will find the other two.

I do feel bad that you are another Christian hater and are looking for something to disparage. I will pray for you too.

P.S. Dear Sarell: Christ IS NOT only Spirit. He ascended to the Father, complete body and soul.

Answer 5

I know that Christ was a real person because the scripture tell us so. He died for my sins He was buried and took my sins away and He rose again for my justification. That is my salvation and it could be yours too if you would believe and trust in what He did for you. If He was not a real person then the scriptures are a lie and there is no hope. I believe the scripture over what you think any day. Philippians 2: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Philippians 2: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Philippians 2: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Answer 6

We are Christians because, in the Swedenborgian denomination of the Christian Church, Jesus Christ is the "I AM" or God Himself in a visible body.

"For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."
-- Colossians 2:9

"Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?"
-- John 14:9

"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you Before Abraham was, I AM."
-- John 8:58



In the Swedenborgian denomination of the Christian Church, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the Good, the Truth and what comes forth from the marriage of Good and Truth, or the two elements of God and the resultant action, just like the soul, the body and the works in a single person.


http://www.mechanicsburgnewchurch.org

Answer 7

Reality check.Jesus ate, sh*t, and slept just like the next man.I never knew GOD had to release bowels.In Islam it states that he was no more nor less than a messenger of the god.A prophet.Not son of god nor god himself.If you study Krishna(Hinduism), you would be surprised what men can speak and are capable of.In Islam, there is no distinction amongst the prophets.Equal in rank but the proofs for each vary.Did you ever think that the one true god suffers?Just a thought.Not Him, but we do.If jesus or us never existed.The heavens, earth, sun, moon, stars, air you breathe, water you drink(never created by Isa) then HE alone would have always been.Don't try to outthink THE GOD and just let it BE. HE alone can only create.And I was not created by Jesus.I was created by The GOD.Not my parents.They can have sex and claim they created me..But just because they had sex does not at all mean they CREATED me.I belong to none but THE GOD.PEACE! My only creater therefore the only TRUE God.PEACE!

Answer 8

This reminds me of imitatio christi, the imitation of the life of Christ in order to best emulate the spirit of his teachings. This was done by many religious figures when they witnessed the corruption of the church and wished to purify themselves from its evils by being more Christ-like.

I think that you can't say the spirit of Christ without going to what he was as a person. Through the examples that he set, he showed us how a real living person COULD be tolerant, loving, and caring. He showed us how a real person was willing to give himself for us, his own flesh and blood, in order that we might someday find salvation. He was poor, lived simply, and cared about humanity intimately. The spirit of what he is resides in the example that he set while alive on Earth. We learned of his true nature while he walked the earth.

I'm not a Christian... So I'm not sure if I'm effectively answering it. But if the spirit of Christ is the love that he showed he had for us, it cannot be separated from what was there as a mortal example, yet still MUST be treated as a matter of spirit. Love for all things, forgiveness for all things, should be felt in the hearts even of those who do not consider Christ their lord and savior. Jesus set this example too on Earth.

Answer 9

I viewed you 360 page and saw that one of your intrests is the TRUTH. Funny how the truth is right infront of you and you can't see it. Let me ask you this. According to old testiment, God is the only person that can heal the blind, right? Otherwise it had to be done in his name, right? So if Christ was not God, how could he heal the blind? Not even the devil could do that. Christ then sent his deciples out and had them heal blind people in his name. These findings are not only in the Christian history, but Roman, Greak, Muslem, and many others. Christ is the same God that freed the Hebrew from Egypt, Put Jonah in the belly of a whale, and flooded the world. Praise God that he came, died for me, rose again, and will come back for me.

Answer 10

My fellow knight I think you are a confused soul. What you talk like is one of those new agers who say 'Jesus' is a great person a prophet etc.

But again maybe you are influenced by ancient heresies that believed in the God head yet did not accept Jesus as God. Such heresies are nothing new my friend. Look up some ancient Catholic apologetics from over a thousand years ago who logically with reason and faith put down such insurgent beliefs.

Historically speaking Muslims were influenced in the formation of their faith by heretic Christians and not Christians of the true Church that being the Catholic Church. Hence they also like yourself and the 'New Agers' believe that Jesus is not a God/Man but rather a prophet of God or just a 'good' guy.

Ironically if you read the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John you can see very clearly that the person of Jesus Christ clearly sees himself as God. With statements as "Before Abraham was, I AM." As I am sure you know 'I AM' is a clear reference of Elohim, Yahweh and thus God. Or "No one can come to the Father unless they come through me". If you prefer "I AM the Way the Truth and the Life". So Jesus if he is not God is clearly blasphemous as the early Jews believed a mad man! Or Very Proud man who believed he was God. Such a man with such comments clearly would not be regarded as either a good man or a prophet. A Prophet proclaims the word of God and lives it. A Prophet does not declare that he is God and that there is no other way to God other then through him the mighty I AM.

These Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John came before many of these heresies believing Jesus is not God. The Early Catholic Church before it put the Bible together kept the teachings by oral tradition and never even then was Jesus ever declared anything but God. The earliest writings in the Bible believed to be the gospel of Mark clearly state Jesus as the Risen God.

I suggest you read dear knight the writings of the good reputable writings of the Englishman G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936), an English convert to Catholicism who addressed the important questions of his day with boldness and wit.

Who quoted ""Great truths can only be forgotten and can never be falsified." -- GKC

He is a famous writer and one of great intellect and someone I believe you will respect and hopefully understand more of the true teachings of Christ. Also their is the American Scott Hahn who writes very well explaining many of the issues you are thinking about regarding the Christian faith. Look him up my fellow knight.

I do hope that the Lord illuminates your mind with his light and truth as he did to my own mind. I would if "Thou vagabond and harlot of sin if thou continue to Blaspheme against the most High then thou shalt be smited by thy awful and terrible righteous fury upon thine infidel head!" JOKE! (LOL) I am sure I amused you knight. But on a serious note do look up and read G. K. Chesterton or maybe the easier to read Scott Hahn.

God bless and peace brother!

Knight of Christ and Mary

Totus Tous Maria!