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This girl I work with said that the only thing she doesn't like about public schools is that they took the lords prayer out. I responded with telling her that in the muti-cultural country that we live in, it wasn't fair to those who do not beleive in the Christian God and that making a few kids stand in the hall way for a few min is a good way to get kids bullied even more then what kids are. She then responded with telling me that kids who don't beleive in "the one and only god" should go to other schools that are ment for their religion. She didn't beleive me when I told her that segregating people would cause more racism and discrimination then what is already out there. I for one am glad that the lord prayer is no longer said in public schools (atleast where I live), I come from a family who does not beleive in the christian god. School is not a place for religion (unless it is that type of school). What are your thought?

2006-07-31 18:56:09 · 85 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I think it is good that they took prayer out.

Little children that have parents who are of different religions would become confused and ask questions.
They are too young to get into religion. Which is why I dont believe in forcing children into religion (Churches, stuff like that)
I am not Christian, but when Iwas in school I hated it.

Its very good not to have religion in schools. Just because the fact of different religions in our society today! :)

2006-07-31 19:04:29 · answer #1 · answered by Branwen 4 · 1 2

If an American Christian goes to live in Iran, do you think Iran will stop reciting Muslim prayers so as not to offend the American Christian? NOT. And an Orthodox Jew cannot even live in most Arab countries, let alone modify the religious code there.

This nation was founded on Judeo-Christian priniciples. All who come here should be ready to deal with it, just like we'd have to deal with it in another country. Seems like the whole world hates America, when America tries to accomodate the whole world.

Also, I understand the girl you work with. I was 5 years old in 1963 when they ruled that the 10 commandments had to come down off the school walls. Fortunately, I lived in a small town and the town just ignored the ruling because of the wishes of the people of the town. But a few years later, someone reported that they were still hanging in the school hallway, and the school was forced to take them down. We were very, very, very sad and we were, at the time, in 4th grade. We would memorize the Ten Commandments. This was normal childhood conversation back in the day.Since 1963, the moral fabric of this nation has decayed beyond what anyone back in the day could have imagined. Ever since they took God out of the schools. I know. I was there. And now I'm here. I know the difference. And I even tell my Muslim coworker, who is only about 20 years old, about what has happened to our country and why.

2006-07-31 19:12:09 · answer #2 · answered by Shalom Yerushalayim 5 · 0 0

Honestly its not just about prayer in school its that God in general has been baned from schools. Which if you look at the statistics before and after that happened you would be rather surprised at the negative difference it made, and continues to make. Personally i believe that prayer in school is not a problem. Not everyone has to pray it shouldn't be forced, but there is nothing wrong with it being allowed cuz then your discriminating against Christianity. Really religion is taught in many places at schools, and many different religions. For some reason though Christianity is the religion that is forbidden... ask yourself why. Don't think that your being funny or cool to say that Christianity is stupid when you have never even seriously learned about it.

PS yes the statement that your friend made was very narrow minded and wrong, not because she thinks prayer should be in school but because of her lack of acceptance that we are not all the same.

2006-07-31 19:22:27 · answer #3 · answered by vidademexico 1 · 0 0

No, prayer does not belong in schools. Christians fail to realize that this is for the protection of all, themselves included. How would Christians feel if someday a Muslim candidate became president and began pushing for Muslim prayer in school? Perhaps we should make a law that only Christians can hold office in order to avoid this? Oh, I forgot, we can't do that because the Constitution states that no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification for public office in the United States.
Further, to the folks that insist that our nation was founded on Christianity, the following passage from The Treaty of Tripoli, which was ratified back in 1797 by the senate, and signed by the second President of the United States, John Adams, directly refutes this assertion.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity of Musselmen - and as the said states never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

2006-08-04 13:01:13 · answer #4 · answered by mightyart 2 · 0 0

This is the among the big questions of schools and the communities they serve. The teaching of facts and figures is one thing. The teaching of morals and beliefs are another. As communities can differ in the same town -what to teach the children can differ greatly also. What the children learn at home carries so much power, real self aware making, power that school is more a testing ground for what the children learned at home or at church - they check this at school for "correctness" against what is taught there.
As a statement of insuring the fewest amount of hurt feelings the no religion taught is sound. Except that religion or the beliefs of each person are interwoven so tightly in some subjects as to make them impossible to teach in junior high or high school:
Math - no religious overtones
Grammar/Spelling - no religious overtones
P.E./sports - no religious overtones
Computer skills - no religious overtones
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Social science? Hard science? Civics/History?
Classes where abstract thinking is called upon.
These have religious overtones that each child brings to the table - either conscious or subconsciously, and where as children, confussion may happen. (heck adults will be confused to.) Then hurt feelings - due to being laughed at or ridiculed by others.
You have to learn history - so not to repeat it. You have to understand people - so we can stop misunderstanding each other, and get along better.
One thing that must happen is that parents must trust their children. These children will not abandon their faith in a half hour speach on an approved subject. The parents - involved parents - should know and trust their children.
I am against FORCEFULLY BREAKING A PERSON FREE WILL. So have some courage, trust your children. They will not let you down. At this age, high school children - are just months from being adults - if not now - when can you trust them?

2006-07-31 19:37:06 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Aye, people make such rude remarks on here don't they!

I agree with what you are saying. This country has grown way too diverse for public schooled children to have to use the Lord's name in the Pledge of Allegiance.

We pay taxes so our children can become educated not preached to. Religion is something that should be taught by the parents and others outside of the school network.

If some parents insist that their child be taught about Christianity or other religions, then they have the option of sending them to a private school where they can pay for their childs religious upbringing.

2006-07-31 19:06:33 · answer #6 · answered by AnthonyPaul 2 · 0 0

As a Christian I also agree that prayer doesn't belong in public school, or any school for that matter. I believe it belongs in the heart where God truly listens to prayers anyway. No matter what your religion is, if your God can't hear your heart and your innermost thoughts, then you aren't worshipping a god, your worshipping an idea. And sad to say, I believe that's what most Christians are worshipping nowadays. Why else would they make such a big deal out of prayers in public? Because their faith isn't real.

2006-07-31 19:03:02 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Why would someone be picked on for staying in the hall? I never got picked on for staying in the hall for Human Growth and Development or for staying in the hall for a rated R movie because it was against my religion. I personally like learning about different religions in school. God is part of the founding of this country so taking God out of the schools completly may be the wrong thing to do. Besides everyone believes in the same God (albeit in different ways) anyway.

2006-07-31 19:09:00 · answer #8 · answered by sg1alias 5 · 0 0

Religion no but God yes. All I'm saying is they should do a poll with the kids and see if they want to put it in. I mean I can't really tell you that it's good or bad. But I will tell you this. Some of then kids need to believe in something. While yall worrying about prayer in schools, another child is worrying about guns and their life. So, I say this find something better to disagree in. A prayer won't hurt but a bullet will.

2006-07-31 19:07:00 · answer #9 · answered by Ashlay D 3 · 0 0

Well, this person doesn't know what she is talking about. How can other people even find the lord if we tell non Christians to either accept it or go away? Why would anyone want to be a Christian if they thought all Christians were like that? It isn't right, obviously.

Being a Christian is about sharing the lord's love, not trying to force it onto anyone. That turns people away big time!

2006-07-31 19:02:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I agree with you...although I think taking out the "under God" in the pledge of allegiance is going a little far. But I've always thought that the only religious course in a public school (aside from teaching intelligent design as a theory in science classes) should be comparitive religions--a study of all religions, including athiesm--and it should be an elective.

2006-07-31 19:02:08 · answer #11 · answered by Crys H. 4 · 0 0

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