god or the church??
god said:
1. love our neighbors
2. love ur enemies
church says:
1. gays are going to hell.. they're like saying "judge them! look at them! they're pathetic who donnot believe in christ"(indirectly tho)
2. declare a holy war.. note** "HOLY" how can u say it's holy if ur killin people?
2006-07-31 17:25:58 · 10 answers · asked by killua_z03 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
God also says that men that lie with men, fornicators, adulterers, thieves murderers, spiritists, will all be destroyed (not eternally tormented,destroyed) in the lake of fire(which represents total DESTRUCTION not eternal torment)
2006-07-31 17:29:38 · answer #1 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
there's nothing wrong with God or the Church, it's just the way thing's were and are intepreted over time which has made the entire religious scriptures confusing. Every new religious leader inteprets the Holy Book's with a few of his / her view's added. I'm saying this not only about the christian's but all religion's.
Be an Atheist and Be Happy.
2006-08-01 00:36:08 · answer #2 · answered by joamon 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Actually, the Bible says that all habitual, unrepentant sinners are going to Hell, not just gays. The church is simply doing its duty to warn people.
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Ezekiel 18:21-23 (NIV)
"But if a wicked man turns away from all the sins he has committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die. None of the offenses he has committed will be remembered against him. Because of the righteous things he has done, he will live. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?"
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (NIV)
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
2006-08-01 00:36:54 · answer #3 · answered by Randy G 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you get your idea of what "god said" from the bible, then you should put down #1 under "church says" as being what "god said".
But buffet religion is getting more and more common. I think I'll have a serving of the "god hates gays", but I'm not in the mood for "god hates divorce" today, I'll just leave that off my plate. God will be gracious to ME, after all.
2006-08-01 00:30:14 · answer #4 · answered by Netchelandorious 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't see where God tells me to love you here. Do you see it?
What does God call it? Preach love too them? Lets see what God says, to do with them.
You have unbeliever's. Chaff, Scoffers.
An Atheist is a scoffer. The WORD of God, clearly tells you the filhty rags they are, and to stay away from them, and avoid them. We are NOT to plant seeds. God knows it is useless and that is why he tells us, "You stand firm against them" ( Jer.17:8 14:1 Iah 44:4) You disassociate them completely. Any Believer that does not abide in God's own Word, does not know God, according too God Himself. Atheists are "chaff" A simile of the wretchedness of the wicked. Chaff is carried away by the lightest wind, and it's removal brings about cleansing by extracting what is utterly useless. (Ruth 1:22). They will NOT stand in the judgment. They will NOT be able to withstand God's wrath when He judges.( Paslams 76:7 Exra 9:15). This is not my opinion, this is God's very own Words, in the Bible. You know, the BIble? The same Bible atheist scholars quote. There is a reason God, said this. Psalms.1.1-3 Jer. 17:8 14:1 12. 1-2 18:9-10 Prov1.10-19 (vs 5) scoffers:(atheists) those who ridicule God and definatley reject His Law. Prov 1.:22 Ruth 1:22 Jer 18:7 (pull down-destroy) 1:10 (evil-calamity) 18:11
Pslams 1:
godly wisdom here, declare the final outcome of the two "ways". The paths of "sinners" (unbelievers) and the "way of the righteous. he speaks progressively of assoociation with the ungodly and participation in they're ungodly ways.
God said it. End of Story. Jesus Himself said "Let the dead bury they're dead".
Use all the Internet and Dictionaries they want to and call themselves anything they wish. God "defined" what they are by His own words.
They can hang a dog tag* around they're neck in the pits if hell itself and separate each other by name categorically.
God's Word said it. By God's definition. There is NO opinion.
Hate? Where do you get hate? If God's TRUTH is hate too you, then, so be it. You and God, can and will discuss the means of your sciptural interpretation, consisting with a man-made defacto on a motion of plea bargin I guess. I dunno.
2006-08-01 00:30:10 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I ask this question myself - are we meant to be kind and good like christ or are we supposed to follow the rules of the church? I wonder why it seems that it is not enough to be a good person that church seems to be a big part of who is getting saved. Probably because that is what pays the church bills.
Peace!
2006-08-01 00:30:59 · answer #6 · answered by carole 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God and he says that homosexuals will go to hell
2006-08-01 00:29:49 · answer #7 · answered by jp 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
well not every Christian follows Gods Word, (even though they SAY they do) but..
u should alwys go directely to the source AKA The Bible and follow his Words.
2006-08-01 00:32:04 · answer #8 · answered by i got Question 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why not try leading instead, or just going it alone?
2006-08-01 00:30:54 · answer #9 · answered by lenny 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
good question would love to hear what others have to say
2006-08-01 00:29:54 · answer #10 · answered by gwad_is_a_myth 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋