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2006-07-31 15:39:09 · 9 answers · asked by dochendrix2005 1 in Pets Dogs

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Many possibilities here. And anybody that gives you advice without knowing more information is giving you uneducated words.

This is just my opinion. I respect the others on here.. but I wouldn't do the roll over thing though.. You need to teach the dog how to not snap at everybody, not just you. Rolling him over will only correct the problem with you and him (maybe - I would say it's not even a 75% cure), and it will more than likely not cure the problem with everybody else in the household.

And you don't need to roll him over to show control either. I've pinned my dog down to the floor holding her next to me as a sign of "the alpha all mighty one" and I say "be still" after she finally relaxes all her muscles, then I pause, say "all done" and reward her with praise or a cookie. Don't say "be still" while she's the tazmanian devil.. all it's registering is be still equals fight like mad.

What exactly are you doing to correct him that allows him to snap at you? That's what I'm curious about. Saying no and tapping on the nose, or shaking the finger at him is the wrong thing to do no matter what you're training.

You should never have to pull away from your dog in response to an aggressive behavior. You have to know how to counteract each bad habit.

1) Not saying you're stupid here, but I'd suggest you take some dog classes.. not from a local pet store, but from a well known training facility near you. Most people that take puppy class on up to advanced classes.. you start realizing we're the idiots that need the training :) They also need proper dog interaction and socialization - SUPER important!

2) In my opinion, and most good trainers would agree, correcting a dog is about redirection and rewarding for good behavior, not hitting or yelling at them for a bad behavior. There's very few things for which you yell at your dog in training. It takes a spec longer with redirection, but I'll tell ya from experience, it's the only way to go if you want a wonderful dog for life.

Post something on here... or email me if you want to yap about things you can do to stop the snapping.

3) OK.. NOW FOR THE ANSWER!:!!

THE CURE FOR BITING in general? We had a HUGE problem with this with our Schnauzer - and she's been through some of the best training. INSTANTLY as soon as the dog bites, your hand under his mouth, thumb on one side all other fingers on the other side - clamp your fingers together to get hold of the gums of the dog against their teeth., roll their gums over their bottom teeth and squeeze your hand so the gums hurt on their teeth. It's seems mean, but it's not really.. and it worked charms for us.

WHen the dog squeeles.. you say "no bite" and just let go. Don't toss the dogs head or throw your hands in a fit. Simply let go. The dog will more than likely walk away and find something else to do. If they try to bite you , do it again. Eventually the dog will look at you, your hands.. and then find something else to bite on.

But there's still some other problem here though.. and I don't think that this is the cure all for your situation.

Binaca spray also works wonders *in the mouth* . But you have to be careful it doesn't become a game. I'd only use it at last resort.

And don't say your dogs name in vein. Seriously! Use a different name when you're scolding it. It makes sense. :)

2006-07-31 16:41:45 · answer #1 · answered by game buddee 3 · 0 1

Contact a behaviorist, Rolling him over is called the alpha roll and is no longer widely practiced for a few reasons.
In the wild a dog will willingly roll over and show his belly to the alpha,
They have recently discovered new information about the "alpha roll" that many trainers and pet dog owners have not yet learned.

This is taken out of the site link at the bottom of the page.
"The alpha roll was first widely popularized by The Monks of New Skete, in the 1976 book "How To Be Your Dog's Best Friend"
"However, the monks themselves later expressed regret that they had included the alpha roll technique in the book, as it was often taken out of context and misused. In the original context, the alpha roll was only meant to be used in the most serious cases and always in combination with positive reinforcement techniques."
It is now known that by nature, a dog will only forcibly flip another animal onto his back during a serious fight where the intent may be to kill the opponent (this should not to be confused with the behaviour when a dog rolls over on his own to show submission). So in other words, when you perform the alpha roll your dog will believe that you are trying to kill him. Many dogs, not only dominant or aggressive ones, will instincively try to defend themselves, which can be very dangerous or even fatal to the trainer.

"It can also traumatize the dog, causing serious psychological disorders, and leading to further undesired behaviour such as fear-biting or submissive urination. For aggressive and dominant dogs, it may increase aggression rather than reduce it."

So you see,doing this behavior to an already dominant animal can increase the likelihood of aggression which is why it should never be attempted without a professional.

Too many well-meaning owners attempt to deal with aggression themselves which unfortunately leads to further problems.
I understand that a behaviorist is expensive, sometimes dominance aggression can be dealt with a trainer, it has to do with creating a "leadership program" and making sure that your dog understands what is being asked of him.
There are also ways to treat "dominance aggression" yourself without causing more harm to the situation.
This is a safe technique that should be used on all dominant dogs,...I have a very, very, dominant girl named Lexus. You may find the part in the article that says "do you live with a dominant dog"? quite funny, please remember that these behaviors are no longer acceptable.

http://www.joycefay.com/articles/dominantdogs.shtml

If you look at this site, it speaks about the alpha roll and where Caesar Milan stands. Caesar uses the alpha roll only in extreme circumstances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_roll

WIth limited information and knowing that your dog snaps at you, I would consult a professional now and stop it before it goes any farther.

2006-07-31 16:03:46 · answer #2 · answered by Pro_Dog_Trainer 3 · 0 0

I agree with the first poster. Dogs roll onto their backs when they're being submissive - you have to be the alpha dog and make him be submissive, just as the pack leader would.

I've read you can hold them on their backs for up to a half hour if necessary.

2006-07-31 15:50:51 · answer #3 · answered by sandand_surf 6 · 0 0

Put a few lemon juice in a sprig bottle. When she nips, squirt her within the mouth. Just watch out to not spray her eyes. You can check out vinegar too, however probably lemon works higher.

2016-08-28 14:48:00 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Dogs are naturally pack animals and they see you as a member of the pack. Make sure it sees you as a dominant member of the pack or it will never respect you. Obedience training and lots of patience is required. Stick with the training.

2006-07-31 15:52:53 · answer #5 · answered by Neil S 4 · 0 0

WHEN EVER A DOG IS DOING AN UNWANTED BEHAVIOR IGNORE IT YOU ACT LIKE YOU DONT HAVE A DOG. ONCE THE DOG IS DOIGN A GOOD BEHAVIOR YOU REWARD IT WIOTH A TREAT OR A BELLY RUB AND STUFF BUT.

2006-07-31 17:37:31 · answer #6 · answered by girlie1921 3 · 0 0

"me" has a good idea. also i have great danes and they are not easy to roll over so i just stand up big and get in their face and in a deep vioce say NNNOOOOOO!!!!! they always submit. and make eye contact and DONT look away first!!

2006-07-31 16:34:01 · answer #7 · answered by sillygoose 5 · 0 0

Turn him/her over on his/her back immediately -- to a dog this is a position of passivity, it eliminates aggressiveness.

2006-07-31 15:47:09 · answer #8 · answered by me 7 · 0 0

you shove you fist in his mouth and yell No! someone told me to try it out with my dog and it worked wonderfully.

2006-07-31 20:05:08 · answer #9 · answered by xtinelibero 2 · 0 0

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