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If Jesus and God are the same, then why would God "smite the phillistines" and Jesus "save the phillistines???

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2006-07-31 11:50:44 · 26 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Jesus and God are not the same. A commonly misunderstood verse John 10:30, "I and the Father are one.” But Jesus himself showed what he meant by his being "one" with the Father. At John 17:21, 22, he prayed to God that his disciples "may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, . . . that they may be one just as we are one." Was Jesus praying that all his disciples would become a single entity? No, obviously Jesus was praying that they would be united in thought and purpose, as he and God were.

2006-07-31 11:59:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7 1

To this cut-n-paste question, answered each and every few days, I reciprocate with the following cut-n-paste.>>

Q -- Trinity, I don't see the word trinity in the Bible. Were in the Bible is the
trinity mentioned ?

A -- Indeed the word trinity is not in the Bible, but the indicators certainly are.
Look up Psalm 45, and Psalm 110. Both indicate THE GOD speaking to
"HIS OTHER".....also......The Trinity is indicated in 1 John 5:7 if you are using
a King James Bible (others have removed or altered same).

In the Old Testament see Isaiah 44:6 --- and His redeemer I am ---.
and Isaiah 45:11 --- And His maker --.

My favourite indicator is 1 Corinthians 15:28 ! At some point The Trinity will once
again unite because THEN there will be no need for The Trinity !

Water appears as a liquid, steam, and ice. All three are one.
A Clover leaf has three segments, it is but ONE clover.

In both situations above, three are one. Why can't THE GOD do the same?
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Please substitute the word INFIDELS for the word Phillistines and you will have your answer. (The word Goyim could also have been used.)
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2006-07-31 11:59:54 · answer #2 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 0 0

First, lets answer your first question with a question you'll relate to. Do you have a body? How about a mind (other than the physical brain - what makes you - you!)? This next one takes faith...do you believe in a spiritual universe? Life that exists after this shell of a body is nothing but dust? Well you are made in the image of God. Just as you have a spirit, body, and soul you are 3 persons in 1. The Holy Father & Creator of all, manifested in the flesh is Jesus Christ (for our redemption from the fall), led by the Holy Spirit (our Helper). The second questionis old testament and new testament. Which is an old covenant and then a new and better covenant. DO you know what covenant means? reseach these words, and then keep them in context. Would you ever protect something that is being attacked by an enemy? Context is looking at what is going on at the time, under what covenant - it makes all the difference in the world. The best answer I can give you is to read the Bible in it's entirety, ask God to teach you what you aren't understanding. He is faithful, if you are sincere.

2006-07-31 12:11:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are three persons, but they are one God. How this actually works is impossible for us to really get our minds around because God is incorporeal and there is nothing in the created universe to which we can truly compare him in such a way as to "lock down" the concept of this undivided Trinity in our minds. However, these three persons, since they are all God, have the same will and purpose for mankind, so there is no difference between, say, the Father's will and Jesus' will. At the time God commanded that the Philistines be smitten, Jesus was in agreement, and at the time that God sent Jesus to be the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world, Philistines included, Jesus was in agreement, then, too.

2006-07-31 11:55:35 · answer #4 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

ONCE AGAIN.....

"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein

"Don't tell God what to do with His dice" - Niels Bohr

"God not only plays dice, sometimes He cheats"
-Steven Hawking

It is impossible to understand God. You are a fool to even try


(Apparently that lesson didn't sink in last time so here is some more)

You know who Saint Patrick is right? Ok, good. Aside from the myth that he drove all the snakes off Ireland he is most famous for his description of the Trinity Concept. He took a 3 leaf clover and used the analogy that each of the three forms of God represented the 3 leaves of the clover. However, the God that is worshiped by the major religions is represented by the entire clover itself. Three in one. Three incarnations of God form the Trinity, while the three leaves on a clover form the entire plant.

Is that enough for you?

2006-07-31 11:57:54 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I've noticed that someone discounted the trinity as being Pagan, I am wounderingwhat is wrong with paganism?

I was trying to find the data on it, but it was some 200 years after Jesus that the idea of the trinity became popular.

"The word "Trinity" comes from "Trinitas", a Latin abstract noun that most literally means "three-ness" (or "the property of occurring three at once"). Or, simply put, "three are one". The first recorded use of this Latin word was by Tertullian in about 200, to refer to Father, Son and Holy Spirit, or, in general, to any set of three things."

This is a pagan idea, by the way, the power of three and all that.

"Paganism is a spiritual path that honors: the Old Ways of the Triple Goddess and her consort the Triple God who have many names and visages that vary from culture to culture; the blessings of Gaia, the Earth Mother; the Moon Mysteries; and the transcendent wonder of the human body as a reflective vessel of immanent divinity."

2006-07-31 12:06:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

where did you read "smite the philistines" & "save the philistines"? Email me & let me know where you found it! But yeah, um.... Ok, God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), & God the Holy Spirit are also called "the Trinity". Like in John 10:30, Jesus says, "I and the Father are One," or in John 14:7-9. In Exodus 20:3 & Deuteronomy 5:7, God says, "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." If we are to worship Jesus, & God the Father said that, & they don't contradict each other, then they must be the same (as well as the Holy Spirit). & they are. Yeah just email me.

2006-07-31 12:00:30 · answer #7 · answered by beckaroo_messer 2 · 0 0

Shiva (Sanskrit: शिव; Hindi: शिव (when used to distinguish lordly status), and written Śiva in the official IAST transliteration, pronounced as /ɕiʋə/) is a form of Ishvara or God in the later Vedic scriptures of Hinduism. Shiva is the supreme God in Shaivism, one of the major branches of Hinduism.

Adi Sankara interprets the name Shiva meaning "One who purifies everyone by the utterance of His name" or the Pure One. That is, Shiva is unaffected by the three gunas (characteristics) of Prakrti (matter/nature) namely Satva, Rajas, and Tamas.

Shiva is one of the Trimurti (i.e "trinity"). In the Trimurti, Shiva is the destroyer, and Brahma is the creator and Vishnu is the preserver. Even though he represents destruction, Shiva is viewed as a positive force (The Destroyer of Evil), since creation follows destruction. However, according to Shaivism, Shiva is not merely a destroyer but performs five functions: 1. Creator, 2. Preserver, 3. Destroyer, 4. Hiding the sins, and most importantly, 5. Blessing.

Other views contend that Shiva produces Vishnu who produces Brahma and thus creation began, within which the cycle of the Trimurti exists. Shiva also assumes many other roles, including the Lord of Ascetics (Mahadeva, or the Great God), the Lord of Boons (Rudra, or The Howler - rud-iti rudra), and also the Universal Divinity (Maheshvara, the Great Lord).Shaivaites, the worshippers of Shiva consider as the Ultimate Reality (see Ishta-Deva for fuller discussion).


Apparently the Hindus have no problem with it at all.

2006-07-31 11:53:35 · answer #8 · answered by optimistic_pessimist1985 4 · 0 0

the Hindus worship one god too but many aspects of the same God those who are truly interested in improving there inner selves understand what it means. those who interpret the bible as history just gave up and are content to judge others in there outer world. those who seek the truth, see the symbols for the purpose of improving there inner selves. You will quickly see here from the answers you get who is who .
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Meister Eckert says "the ultimate leave taking is the leaving of God for God." All of our Religions hang onto the Image
even Islam that says there is no God but God has Satan and angels a plethora of minor Gods .
The purpose is to break the thing up so that peoples heads don't explode so that it can be meditated upon. Only a God can worship a God. Religion is the filter that protects mortals from cracking up .
Goethe says "everything temporal is but a symbol"
Nietzsche says "everything eternal is but a metaphor.
This includes God
One has to go beyond the pairs of opposites to find the real source.

2006-07-31 12:12:04 · answer #9 · answered by Rich 5 · 0 0

God Is. Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Elohym is one Yahweh.

Elohym is plural expressing the fullness of God. United Yahweh. Yahweh the Father, Yahweh the Son of God, Yahweh the Holy Spirit. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.

Elohym created the Heavens and the Earth.


Every knee will bow, every tongue confess Yeshua Messiah is Yahweh.

2006-07-31 11:59:49 · answer #10 · answered by t a m i l 6 · 0 0

In Vaisnava understanding, which is Vedic, the establishment of a primary source of all that exists, namely The Supreme Personality of Godhead Krishna, contains unlimited expansions within and manifests them throughout the unlimited worlds both Spiritual and Mundane(material). Through the creative potency, the Maha Vishnu, who is a plenary portion of a plenary portion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead creates the Mahat Tattva the material universes through his outward breath, into each universe the secondary creator Brahma is installed, with a further Vishnu expansion to maintain the sustenance or preservation in each universe and Siva the destructive potency that winds up each of the infinite mundane universes with the inward breath of the Maha Vishnu, each breath outward and inward is equivalent to 311 trillion earth years.

For additional information/enquiry :- Sriman Sankarshan Das Adhikari (sda@backtohome.com)

2006-07-31 12:29:17 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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