If you could prove the existence of God, wouldn't that make Him/Her less divine?

Question

Isn't it a requirement of believing in God that you have to take a leap of faith? How almighty could any God possibly be if you could prove or disprove His/Her existence with science or philosophy?

I would prefer that you not quote any scripture, I am well acquainted with many holy writings thank you very much. I also would prefer that you treat this as a thought-provoking discussion rather than an opportunity to convert. Thanks.

Answer 1

Meister Eckhart wrote:

"A master saith: If I had a God whom I could understand, I would never hold Him to be God."

In other words, "God" is just a word for that which is beyond words.

How can you prove an Ineffability?

I think religion in general and maybe even Faith itself is a barrier to having a true relationship with God.
It becomes something to cling to. To lean on for whatever reason.
The more you cling, the more real the illusion becomes that you are separate from God. So worship is nothing more than strengthening your own ego. Or at least a diversion.
It could be that when you stop grasping at ideas of "God", only then could He actually make an appearance. Most likely in your own heart.
Then knowledge of Him is immediate and does not require proof.

Answer 2

properly, in case you define the universe as (a pantheistic) God, why difficulty including the extra be conscious? Neither Einstein nor his discoveries gave any data of any god. Your be conscious video games do no longer create any data the two. basically with the aid of fact matter and ability could be interchanged does not make any god authentic. For hundreds of years, human beings have suggested that their gods have been at the back of what they did no longer understand -- life, lightning, stars, earthquakes, the inspiration of life, the international or the universe, etc. Positing a god to supposedly answer a question solves no longer something. It basically provides an unwarranted point of complexity and prevents you from asking extra questions. "It became, of direction, a lie what you study my religious convictions, a lie that's being systematically repeated. i do no longer think in a private God and that i've got not denied this yet have expressed it needless to say. If something is in me which could be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the form of the international so a strategies as our technological know-how can demonstrate it." — Albert Einstein, 1954, Albert Einstein: The Human area

Answer 3

I am what is referred to as an existentialist, in that I have nothing to prove or disprove the existence of God; however, I say that in either instance, nothing changes.
With or without science, you still have no definitive answers so rather than chase yourself around the proverbial square, live life to it's fullest and leave room for your spirituality to grow. Your self satisfaction should play a role in deciding a religious stand. As for me, I know for sure that I will die one day, and whatever happens after that is still theoretical. I'd like to think that it doesn't end there.

Answer 4

Does this mean that faeries, hobgoblins and father christmas are divine?

Something to be true shouldn't require a leap of faith but should be testable using factual methods of the 21st century and not the combined rantings of a 1600 years old written manuscript based on word of mouth and mythology, hence the numerous contradictions and fallacious arguments.

Answer 5

no you do not have to make a Leap of faith to beLieve in God. Look at Doubting Thomas, he doubted was given proof then he believed and now he is a saint, most of the famous people in the Bible had evidence that we do just not have today, for instance a burning bush that talks, parting of the Red Sea. when He revealed Himself back then no one said He was Less divine,
but since He doesn't do it anymore that must be the reason, because he would be less of a God.

Answer 6

Recent scientific discoveries not only prove the existence of the Creator, but show him/her to be more magnificent than we had previously imagined.

God is everything there is and there is nothing that is not God. God is infinity and there is nothing you can do to decrease infinity, infinity minus one is still infinity.

Laboratory results have demonstrated that matter is formed from a field of energy that permeates all creation when acted upon by consciousness. The observer collapses the probability wave function into "reality". Consciousness did not arise from matter, matter is formed by consciousness. Consciousness and energy existed before matter, and work together to form matter.

This leads to the natural questions, whose consciousness and what is the source of energy? The answer is God.

You're presence here is in itself proof of the existence of the Creator. You are made not only BY the Creator, but OF the Creator and exist in a highly detailed holographic overlay that cloaks the true reality of oneness. Not only is God more divine than we ever imagined, but that divinity is within each of us.

Answer 7

The truth of who you are beyond name and form is the divine god that lives within. It is the unmanifested. Proof is only something that satisfies an ego and an ego can never be at peace enough to accept the truth of formlessness. The same thinking that causes one to compare divinity between god and man is the thihnking that will never allow it to be true.

Answer 8

NO because we are all god just as we all are satin! we get to use our minds to decide how to act i have bland Faith in both but i use my bland faith for good i do pray to god and tell the devil to go to hell! I also hope god lets me in on my honesty of not believing in what i cant see!?

Answer 9

It wouldn't make Him less divine. He'd be divine regardless.

The folks who believe in God are not the ones on here who are asking for proof of His existence.

It's the ones who don't believe in Him who are asking for it.

Answer 10

The sun and moon are proven.
I still believe in them.