A poster said "sin brought misery, suffering, disease, sickness and death"?

Question

Surely God made sin. He made man, and when he made man he made man ABLE to sin. He made murderers, paedophiles, rapists, thieves.

He made volcanos, he made plates on the earth that can move to create tsunamis.

He gave man the ability to make aeroplanes that could be flown into towers. He gave us the power to burn fuel that would pollute the planet.

God made human cells. He made them so that they are able to mutate into cancer.

God made viruses and bacteria. He made AIDS. He made the world so that we could harness nuclear power and with that nuclear bombs.

I do not claim to know whether God exists - that is not provable either way. I just know that if he does he's certainly not someone I'd want to be associated with.

Cue the fundie americans...

Answer 1

a poster also said "fondle cats 4 free!"

the moral of the story is
don't listen to posters
or fondle cats

Answer 2

God did not make sin. Sure, he gave man free will, but that doesn't mean he's responsible for the stupid **** we do on a daily basis.
It's called responsibility, and not a lot of people have it.
Yeah, we do a lot of dumb crap, but that's not God's fault.
We are responsible for our own actions.
Yeah, you can do something but take a minute to really think about it. Is what you're able to do really smart? Should you really do it?
That's the thing. Lot's of people ask" if i'm not supposed to do these things, then why is it that i can?"
The point is that just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.
I mean, God could've easily made it to where we as humans could do absolutely nothing without his saying so, he could've just made us good little slaves and not think a thing about it. But he beleved in us and actually loved us so musch that he gave us free will. Doesn't that say something? Or would you rather be a slave? What you must understand is that absolutely everything has a consequence wether it was good or bad.
You could do the absolute right thing, but get an awfall
consequence in return. There are lots of pros and cons to the free will that God gave us, but we must learn to deal with them and move on. Everything good or bad that happens to us helps us grow mentally, spiritually, and physically and without the ability of free will we could never grow or become anything at all. He gave us free will and knowlegde, Satan and our ability to do amazingly stupid things when we know better is to blame for everything. WE and Satan made sin and sin results naturally in death. We don't use the common sense given to us by god.

Answer 3

Yes, cancer is a gift from God. What a guy!!! On the other hand, it would be a bit crowded here if nobody ever died. I don't know who or what "made" anything. Stuff happens. If you go to a high hilltop above a city, look at the green rolling "skin" of the earth, gullies, glens, glades, dales and vales, woods and streams, the Earth's natural "carpet." And then there's this big black open sore on the land - that's 'yer city. So, "we" made that. Planet Aids. Poor Earth. But then, it's been around for 5 billion years, Homo Erectus (apt name) hasn't even been around for a million years. We'll either evolve or go the way of the dinosaur. I dream that one day Earth will turn back into the "paradise" it was before human apes arrived on the scene. "And the forests will echo with laughter."** Doesn't mean there can't be intelligent life on the planet. It just means that so far there hasn't been any.

Answer 4

Certain things are beyond our comprehension. Yes, most of what you said up there is true.

But if something doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. (Yes I know, some of those things up there can kill you.)

You talk of all of the things people question about God. Nobody ever gives him credit for beautiful sunsets, laughing children, flowers, delicious food, love, happiness, '69 Camaros, the Detroit Tigers, computers, Coca Cola, etc...

You have the power to be a pessimist, or an optimist. I look forward to the day when I get to stand before Him, just so I can say thanks. Sorry if i messed things up while I was down there.

According to the Bible, Eve sinned when she ate from the forbidden tree. It was then that we were given responsibility for our actions. We have the power to choose freely. We can be good, or we can do evil. When Eve sinned, mankind was cast out of paradise. Misery, suffering, disease, sickness and death were unknown in Paradise. We can all only hope that one day we'll be worthy to return.

I wish you peace, happiness, and long life.

Answer 5

Okay, here comes the fundamentalist, revved up and ready to go.
Let me take you back to a college classroom many years ago. A learned professor was lecturing his students, and his point of view was basically the same as yours. There was no God, because otherwise there would not be evil in this world, etc, etc, essentially the same arguments you are making today. A young student raised his hand and asked the professor if he believed in light and darkness. The professor immediately told him that yes, of course, he believed in light and dark. The young student then informed the professor that there was no such thing as dark, dark is only a word that we use to describe the absence of light. We can measure light, there is no measurement for dark. The student then asked the professor if he believed in hot and cold. The professor immediately told him that yes, he believed in hot and cold. The young student then informed the professor that there is no such thing as cold. Cold is merely a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We can measure heat, there is no measurement for cold. The young student then told his professor that the existence of sin in the world, the murder, the pedophile, the thief, the disease, is merely the absence of God.
The young student, by the way, was Albert Einstein.

Answer 6

He created human choices and life lessons too. Every action has a reaction. Eve chose to eat the apple, God did not force her. Adam also decicded to partake of that forbidden fruit. most things happen because of choice. The watergate Scandal destroyed Richard Nixon. He did and was involved in everything that happened in the scandal because he chose to be. The thing was that he didnt have to try and cheat because he was already winning the election anyway. But because of the scandal he lost the election that he would have won. He made a choice that put an action in motion that caused a huge reaction. It was all because of choice. God doesnt force things on us, he wants us to make our own choices, and he hopes and prays we make the right ones.. As for natural disaster's, most of that caused by our disrespect for the earth. And that disrespect is, again, a choice.

Answer 7

Here is a response from a process theology approach.

God is a god who created a world that was not necessarily finished at the end of the Genesis account. God says the Creation is "good" which in Hebrew basically means "it works." We have interpreted this to mean it is perfect, yet this idea is not in the original.

In this paradigm, the world is created to allow for continuous co-creators, a system in which we all participate in making the world, for better or for worse. We have been given minds of tremendous capability, with the capacity for goodness and greatness; at the same time for greed and abysmal failure.

We are creatures that know many answers to questions, yet we live in denial of our responsibility to others and to our planet.

The physical world is created itself as continuously creating; hence the planet itself has moving,shifting systems that create floods, earthquakes, weather turbulence, tsunamis, hurricanes. We have advanced to the degree that we can understand and predict these intimate processes of the earth, yet we continue to construct cities and buildings along precarious fault lines and coastal areas. In times of impending catastrophe, the wealthy are often able to relocate to safety, yet the many poor who do not have the means of evacuation are left to perish.

Thus, through ignoring what we know, natural processes become catastrophic losses of human life.

We have been created with minds capable of discovery, creation and innovation. We use these minds to build weapons that hurt others.

We use our precious resources to finance more military spending so that less money is devoted to finding cures for the diseases of civilization - cancer, AIDS and a host of disease that may have their roots in environmental toxins and unhealthy lifestyles.

Early on in Scripture in the book of Deuteronomy, the Old Testament God says that he has set before humans two choices, the way of death or the way of life. This God urges, "Choose life!!"

We have become very callous about the preciousness of life --we live in ways that deny human and creature flourishing--in fact, as Grace Jantzen would write, we have become a "necrophilic culture" -- in a subconscious way, so many of our practices are geared towards promoting death rather than life.

As creating humans, we have the power within us to make this a better world. Yet it remains to be seen whether humans will ever grasp that the way to changing the world begins now, today, with each one of us.

So whether God exists or not is not --that is a question up to the individual. Regardless of the answer to that question, the question of how we live in relationship to each other and to the earth will decide whether we are a culture of death or one who promotes living.

Answer 8

God created Satan. Satan rebelled, like some teenager having a tantrum because he thought his parents were so stupid~ Satan, by his free will---and, yes, angels have free will, too---decided he was smarter, cooler, far more fun, and he got kicked out of the house and sent to prison----Earth.

Satan brought sin via his own free will. Satan was kicked down to Earth, and humans bought into the garbage that you're shoveling.

If God doesn't have power on earth, and if he's something to be reckoned with, why do you waste your time trying to condemn him?

Answer 9

Hey God tells you the price of sin Romans 6:23. It is up to us to choose who we will serve.
Revelation 21:8 and 20:11-15
God tells us what we are Romans 3:23

Answer 10

God didn't create any of those things. When man sinned he brought it on the world. There would have been no murderers, errupting volcanoes, cancer, etc, had man not ate the forbidden fruit. You can't blame God on this one... he created man with free will b/c he wanted people to choose to love him and worship him. Just like, your marriage would stink if you had to MAKE your wife/husband love you.

Answer 11

Well, it's easy to blame God, since God makes a great big target but the fact is, that we are the authors of our own experiences, via God's gift of free will and hence, the universal law of attraction.

The universal law of attraction maintains that the vibrations we emit into the world via our conscious or unconscious beliefs, thoughts, emotions, words (written and verbal) and actions, and whether they are positive or negative, love-based or fear-based, lead to the events that we experience in return, in one form or another.

These vibrations occur singly, by individuals and collectively, by societies and cultures.

It was humanity's collective vibrations of fear and hatred that led to disasters, natural or unnatural, including war and terrorism, disease, pestilence, starvation etc. etc.

God gives free will and does not revoke or interfere with it, so it is a gift with a double-edged sword, so to speak. Once given, it is our responsibility. Not God's.