Questions for Atheists about abortion:?

Question

A woman wrote this on Yahoo earlier:

"I would rather see a fetus be aborted than a child be tortured, murdered or condemned to to a life of poverty, abuse, non committed parents and resentment."

Does that mean that a child that has been through this would agree that they would have rather just been aborted? All of them?

Who should be authorized to determine what level A.) poverty, B.) ability of parents, C.) abuse, and D.) torture a child MIGHT endure in order to allow an abortion?

I mean if just ONE SINGLE American fetus is aborted due to "Poverty" in the family, wouldn't that mean that MOST fetuses form poor, 3rd world countries should be aborted?

What about rich people that have worked their asses off from extreme poverty? Should they have been aborted too? What about John McCain? Even though he was not a child, he endured a hell of alot of torture. Should we have aborted him if we knew ahead of time what he would go through?

Theres many more Qs but not enuff room

Dorie, good point. Do you have any idea how hard it is to adopt in America? Every single couple that I know that has had to adopt had to go to Russia to do it. And that was after trying for YEARS and getting DENIED or put WAY back on a waiting list. Yes our system is broken but killing fetus's at the rate that we do and for the frivolous reasons we do is a HOLOCAUST. There has to be a better way.

Answer 1

You seem terribly confused. First of all, you are directing your opinions( poorly disguised as questions), at atheists, who are not very likely to be reading questions under a religion category. And, what does one's opinion on abortion have to do with being an atheist? Can't atheists be for or against abortions? You must be very young or immature. Possibly you have been brainwashed to believe certain things about people . This is very sad.

Answer 2

Having /raising a child is a great responsibility

Everyone who want to have a child in the USA should have to pay up front for the right to have a child.

If the mother is under age she should not be given the opportunity to have that child.
If she insists for religious reasons she can leave the country to have the child BUT in doing so she the father renounce their American Citizenship and all right as an American.
If the mother is on welfare she also would be denied the right to have the child.

There would be no tax break for having children instead the first child would cost $500 a year for life. A pittance when you consider that 1 billion dollars a month is being spent to keep those Iraqis from invading Miami.
Each additional child would increment that cost by a factor of ten . so the second child would cost $5000 a year [ still a pittance ] the third child $50,000 a year and so on.

Have as many children as you want as long as you can afford it.

I might be willing to have the government pay this back if the child dies on American soil while defending America from an invading army if they where enlisted in the army at the time and on duty.

For those who would say that the above would ruin the country I say the country was Great when it had only 100 million people and it will be great again when there is only 100 million people here.

Answer 3

Obviously there is merit that no child should be aborted, for any person alive today has arguably made accomplishments on one level or another so when you ask the clearly rhetorical question 'should famous person x have been aborted' the obvious answer is no (those who claim different just wish death upon these people, that is not actually the question, would you kill this person or would we be better off without them, but would THEY have been better off without their own life).

That being said, I'm sure that this goes through the minds of most people considering abortions. The simple fact is, is that you cannot let 'what might be' factor in on your decision, otherwise no one but the really mean would get abortions. There is a huge difference between what was and what might be. When one is in trouble, of one kind or another, it is not amazingly unreasonable to put themselves first, before others, ANY others. That is what trouble does to people. In a perfect world, there would be no abortions, but we don't live in that world, and abortion, right or wrong, it doesn't concern me - if raising the child would be too hard on one, or medically difficult, and they consider abortion, they are putting themself before another. This happens all the time, irrespective of possible irresponsible actions that lead them to be pregnant.

Why anti-abortionists claim unwed mothers and irresponsible teens should 'take responsibility' for their actions when adults of both parties every day avoid them, is beyond me. They send their children, cheering them on, to other parts of the world to face death and kill others, but howl when a crying 16 year old young lady, heart-heavy with what she is about to do, undergoes an abortion for whatever reason. Which seems more gruesome? If it is a question of innocence, that is a subjective word, I simply don't buy that argument, I think it's bulls**t. They will support the murders of, essentially, different people, but when it comes their own people's babies, not THEIR own babies, mind you, their neighbors, they call them murderers. Most people have supported a killing in one way or another, do take your hypocrisy and desire to bomb abortion clinics out of MY country, and leave so we can repair our image and our infrastructure and maybe make some better future so there can be less abortions.

Answer 4

Who are you to decide what is a frivolous reason for an abortion? I have given a child up for adoption, I will tell you right now that not everyone would be able to make that choice and follow through. In fact many couples who are adopting will end up losing the child because the birth mother changes her mind. It is up to the person who is pregnant to decide, she will know what she can handle and what she can't, nobody else can tell her that. Before you judge you would have to be in the exact same situation as every women who has had an abortion, every ones situation is different. Their reason for choosing it is different. People seem to think that the decision is made lightly, none of those who I know had an abortion made the decision any easier, or with less thought and emotion then my choice for adoption.

Answer 5

When you have a lesbian drug addict who has been raped you can be fairly sure the child is not gonna be wanted or well cared for. The list goes on for causes of unfit parents and there emotionally damaged offspring. You have to have a license to drive, hunt , own a weapon and drive just to name a few but anyone can be a parent. The problem with regulating raising kids is the viewpoints on how to do so varies so much. You are obviously right wing pro-life judging from the long version of your question and that's cool but if you regulate morality history has shown us that people will always find ways around it. I'm pro-choice but I think men should have a 50% consent in the matter(yes it is a woman's body but what is in a woman's body came from a man who got consent a majority of the time) when the father is present and on the flip side if the father wants to abort and the mother doesn't the father shouldn't have to pay child support. Well I hope I've alienated both the pro-choice and the pro-life movement enjoy your protesting me I've got better things to do like support marijuana re-legalization.

Answer 6

Procreation is an ongoing process which can be interrupted at any point, right from not having sex in the first place, through contraception, and drugs which prevent implantation, to abortion anywhere up to the moment of birth.

Somewhere along that process, most people would have a point where they consider it's OK to interfere to prevent the birth of a baby up to that point, but not afterwards - e.g. abstinence is OK, but contraception isn't.... or contraception is OK, but abortion isn't... or abortion is OK but only up to week 20... or whatever. It's simply a matter of conscience where you personally decide to draw the line, and on what basis.

For myself, I cannot accept that an undifferentiated bunch of cells has more rights than the fully grown adults who are responsible for its existence. I also cannot accept that it's right to kill a foetus when it's fully developed and due to be born. Logically then, there has to be a point somewhere in between that I decide, on the basis of conscience, is the point at which abortion becomes unacceptable. I don't know enough about it to have a definite view where that point lies, but it must lie somewhere in the 9 months of pregnancy.

It's in the nature of life that there are no easy answers to this kind of question, as it's a matter of subjective opinion rather than objective fact - and my opinion is that abortion cannot be wrong, per se.

Answer 7

At the end of the day it is the mother that has the choice to say weather or not to abort or to keep the baby.. It should only be up to the mother!

What about the 16 year old who was gang raped and fell pregnant.. What about the 21 year old who is unemployed has a drug problem and cant look after the baby.. If these people know they can not look after a child.. are not emotionally ready.. They have the right to abort if they want!
It is the mothers choice!

Answer 8

1st, atheism is not a religion, and that woman is not a prophet that you make her.

Second, foetus belongs to a woman that bears it

Third, which scenario should she take:
a. become a single mother at 15, drop out of school, work at McD, child grows up at a ghetto and joins a gang
b. abort, go to college, get a job, a husband, a house, have 2-3 happy successfull kids

Fouth, foetus is a not a human, it takes a soul and free will to be a human, which requires a brain, and foetus does not have it yet.

Finally, check the suicide rates on poor people. And this is just a tip of the iceberg - suicide means your life hurts more than the pain of death. Which leaves out many more people whose life hurts, but not so much.

Answer 9

First, there is no proof that killing a fetus is the same as killing a person. That cannot be proven.
Next, a person cannot kill a fetus unless he knows what life is comprised of. And no person, atheist or religious knows what a life is comprised of. No person can create life and no person knows what happens to life when we die. Does it continue in another form or is it saved in another form or does it end. All answers will be based upon belief, not fact.
Questions about life, killing, and other issues that are not understood are all a matter of opinion. And in matters of opinion, no person should have a veto over another person.
My personal belief is:
People are defined by the God they choose to follow. I follow the God of the bible and his Pro Choice views. My God invented abortion because he knows that sometimes it is not right for a child to be born. MY God knows when it is wrong and right. MY God does not kill babies or fetuses. MY God takes the soul of the fetus and protects it from harm. MY God does not fear the actions of men or the effect of their actions. MY God has the power to correct mistakes made by men.
The pro life god is a weak god. Their god allows the murder of innocent children and the killing of doctors and the bombing of hospitals. Such a god should not be followed. Do you choose my all powerful, all loving God or do you choose the hate filled murdering god of the pro life movement? Who will you follow? Who will you believe?

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But I should have no right to force this belief on an atheist or a person that follows a lessor (or greater) god.

Answer 10

So, are you saying that you'd rather see children in emotional pain because they were mentally and physically abused? Do you like to see children go hungry? Do you like to see them go through life in an foster home without the love of a father or mother?

If tomorrow I were raped and found out I was pregnant, I would have no way to support it, not on my income. Adoption is out of the question because there is no way I would want to carry to term just so I can become attached to it. There's also no guaranteed chance I would ever see it again, either.

Besides, I wouldn't want a walking reminder that I was raped.

Abortion is my choice, and my choice alone. Period!