Welcome to immigration hell. Canada's problems are similar to the UK's in many ways.
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-pOypG0szd7Pv_X1rQxw_4qCWpA--?p=26
2006-07-30 07:40:38
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answered by Anonymous
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Mass immigration its a mixed issue it has been both a good thing and a bad thing in the UK. When a country accepts new people from different cultures and embraces that, it can grow and prosper - and become better for it. I do like to believe that if one day I needed to flee somewhere that there would be another country that would help me, and the world would not turn their back and abandon me. The majority of crime is not committed by immigrants - that's a subjective response, sure there are some that break the rules, and for that they should be instantly deported - no question, and there are some that come and merely slag Britain off while taking the benefits of living in the country , but these are in the minority. Many are just normal people like you and I. Crime in the UK is actually incredibly low , what is high is the fear of crime, - this fear coupled with the mass change that society sees, creates the conditions for mistrust, and statements like - "the rise in crime is caused my immigrants etc". The Polish immigrant working for less, is also very subjective, unemployment is also at an all time low, and minimum wage is increasing in October - so wages are not getting lower at all. This next statement i do believe - but it is only my opinion - If there is a rise in a particular kind of business like you said kebab stores, there will be a demand. If there is no demand for these businesses, they will fail and change in the near future. If an immigrant is coming to a country and able to start a business, then they are creating jobs, creating money for the local economy, more than likely paying taxes and not sponging benefits, as many believe they do and it should not be shunned !
No matter what an immigrant does, when they come, they will get the same harsh treatment. If they take benefits they are shunned, (that im not against though i must say - ), if they take lower paid jobs - so they do not have to start taking benefit s - it should be applauded as they want to contribute to society, and begin to integrate with our way of life -, if they are starting businesses, even better - for the same reasons as my second point. There are jobs and wages for all, if wages are lowering look to the employer who is exploiting this, rather than the immigrant who is seeking all means necessary to stay within our laws and not merely take from society. The employer is able to do this, because people blame the immigrants, and this deflects attention away from the employer allowing them to get away with this!
The media has sensationalised a non existent problem - and given birth to a whole new era of racism, what brings our society down, what makes Britain worse - is the new wave of intolerance - and hatred. As long as someone comes here honestly - i welcome them and wish them every success.
p.s. Maybe Britain should examine its horrendous attitude, incredible ignorance and own benefit spongers before they start to get snobby and believe they can comment on others.
2006-07-30 15:01:43
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answered by crystalblue10000 2
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The government argues that there aren't enough native people of working age to keep the country running and pay taxes to pay for the pensions of those who have retired.
My view is that you will enter a vicious circle if you give immigrants permanent residancy (rather than a working visa with limited entitlements), because they in turn will retire one day and you will need even more people to support them. Also they increase the demands on social benefits & public services (schools when they have kids, healthcare typically when they get older, house prices when they want to get on the property ladder as their expectations start to rise) sometimes without having contributed to them by paying tax during their younger working lives because they weren't here then. An ideal would be a stable population where the numbers of working & retired people were in balance.
They also say there are not enough people of working age with the required skills.
My view is that they should be far more responsive in our colleges & universities to give people the skills that business currently requires (school is for getting a well-rounded general education). There should be routes for retraining later in life if the skills businesses need change.
I agree that if you introduce people who are prepared to do a job for less then it will inevitibly lower the going rate for that job for all of us, which means even fewer native people want or can afford to do the job (another cycle). Classic examples of affected skill-areas include production-line workers, farm labourers, cleaners, call-center staff (where the jobs have gone abroad instead).
Immigrants may be more desperate, have lower expectations initially, or intend to return to their home country where the money they have earned can buy them more & get them further on the 'property ladder'. In the mean time people growing up in the UK will find it even harder to afford their own place in their own country & our standards of living will fall. I feel we should protect what our hard-working ancestors have passed on to us before it's too late.
Language is a real barrier for us when it comes to emmigrating outside the UK. It's well known that it's easier to learn spoken English to a level which makes it understandable, the same doesn't hold for many other languages.
SN- most crime would be committed by 'white' people as you put it because there are more white people in the UK. Stats need to be expressed as a proportion of the subject population.
True, the UK has been formed of immigrants over centuries, like many countries, but it doesn't change the fact that people should try to respect, protect & improve what they have been brought-up with, eg values, customs, traditions, living standards, skills.
I would expect anyone to do the same for their home nation, anything else is unpatriotic.
Smiley -"Cultural hybridity is a good thing"? - as long as it is fully mixed/integrated at an early stage, otherwise you get tensions between populations as is happening within Iraq. Also the native arabs in Palestine & Lebanon being repressed by the immigrant Jews of Israel.
... and look what hit the news the day after I wrote the above
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/31072006/344/report-predicts-immigration-chaos.html
2006-07-30 15:04:16
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answered by Quasimojo 3
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Well, I dont know how you look at it. Im an immigrant, I work a full time job (and study part time), pay my taxes and NI, pay my rent on time to my landlord and feel Im contributing positively to a society that really despises me. I have a family to take care of and I feel I have a right to be allowed to do that. I keep on the right side of the law and have stayed out of trouble - and yet I still get labelled. I come from a British Colony and find it surprising that those Brits that think of us like a bad cancer never take a minute to look at how their countrymen have been in other countries that they had no business in, and changed laws and imposed themselves as rulers until they felf there was nothing more to reap from those countries. British people could be so sefl centred its hard to believe!
As for blaming migrants for taking what they call their jobs? I think its a fair system when 2 people compete for a job and the best one gets it (which is not always the case, I might add). To my knowledge, I think the British youth cant be a*sed to study and improve thier prospects, mostly black British that I befriended during my stay here, which is sad coz I hear people blaming "the system" - and I think, well, you are giving them a chance to keep you down. Go get yourself a degree and come back and say, look: I still dont have a job! That is understandable, but for people to drop out of school and claim benefits continuously and blame somebody else for their lack of progress in life, really beats me! I've been in a class where there was 2 black students, me and the other British girl - and in my masters class, phew, there was 21 of us, all foreign!!! And their education is flippin (close to) free!
As for benefits, Im not one for that. I dont know how somebody could settle for £70 every week (or whatever it is) when I can work for more! So, you dont have to worry about me stealing from the government that way! If anything, Im worried about the British people, buggy-pushing girls/women on benefits, rearing one child after the other and getting income support. I work my a*ss off to support them - How can I be bad for them? For you?
2006-07-30 16:41:36
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answered by Matrix 2
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Culture is not stagnant.. it is ever evolving. At one point in time you and yours were immigrants too..
In the UK we do not have a pure British culture..we have remanants of many..
Cultural hybridity is a good thing. Exchanges of different foods, practices etc is a way of enriching the fabric of our lives.
Immigrants often too do jobs that are unpopular by native populations and make a worthwhile contribution to the greater good.
Not all IMMIGRANTS are bad just as not ALL natives are great people. I'd gladly have a million hard working, law abiding immigrants over the criminals and work shy lot that were born here.
2006-07-30 15:25:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Got nothing against the Poles, every one I know is hard working and pleasant, do a thorough job and tidy up after them, most come here to work and what they do with their money is up to them.
The ones we should watch are the other east Europeans, the Albanians, the Kosovans, former members of Yugoslavia etc who are the more into illegal activities on a big scale, fraud, prostitution, drugs and God knows what. These guys make most British criminals look like amateurs.
I think we should start a points system like other countries, most of these people wouldn't get into the country, but there again this country doesn't really care who it let's in does it.
2006-08-01 14:58:17
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answered by button mushroom 3
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There are far too many Polish immigrants for us to sustain in the UK. We let one Polish guy have a job at our workplace, then suddenly there was two, then about 30 of them came knocking. They are like vermin if not controlled properly. I'm all for giving a few a chance but why don't the rest of them get lost. This is our country why don't they go home and work at sorting their own country out?
2006-07-31 15:54:22
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answered by Anonymous
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immigration makes a big difference to the UK. most of these people feel they are doing the right thing earning a living then returning home having made a lot of money , i feel that not many do, British youth don't seem to want to work here for a low wage i cant say i blame them working 40 hour's paying tax and national insurance pay your way rent gas electric community tax bus fare cloths try saving
2006-07-30 14:50:20
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answered by angie n 4
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My wages took a dive. Immigrants were paid less, bosses employed them, making their companies richer so they were all in favour of employing more. If it carries on we'll be back to the sweat shops. Whatever happened to the unions? Or are they all tied up in pc crap now.
2006-07-30 14:41:46
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answered by Anonymous
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I hope you have looked at your parent's history before you called other mass immigrants. Most crme are commited by white people.
Your wages is getting worse because you are too lazy to take the challenge.
2006-07-30 15:09:38
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answered by Star 2
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if immigrants 'do the jobs we don't want to do' why is it that i see 100% British people emptying the bins and sweeping the streets round here.
2006-08-01 07:52:35
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answered by andylefty 3
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