for those of you who dont believe in god, why dont you?

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i posted this question yesterday...

You may be athiest or believe in evolution, or whatever else, but why dont you believe in God?

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many of you said that there was no logical evidence for there to be a higher power. I challenge you to do your own research on that. Go check it out for yourselves. Nearly every culture in the WORLD has an account of Jesus Christ. Not even every country has heard of elvis. That is a pretty amazing fact in and of itself.

There was one comment about " strikes for God." one of them was reguarding the flood and the year old man noah. You mentioned how the atmosphere would not be able to handle that much water coverage. However, in the previous paragraph you mentioned evolution. I would call that contradictory. the atmosphere may not be capable of that now, but if you really believe in evolution, you would know that the world has changed drastically. Also, do you have any idea how big that "boat" was???

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please keep in mind that it was not only a few people who saw Christ. There wer THOUSANDS who saw him, witnessed his miracles, and believed he was God. The only other "con-man" who will EVER pull that of is the anti-christ. if you would like to talk to me, please contact me @ [e-mail]

no i dont believe everything i read which explains why i believe in one God. I have discovered the evidence that I need to believe in God. If you knew what following Christ was like and you accepted him as your savior, you would know what i am talking about. When you are so in love withhim, you can feel his presence, you can hear his voice. there is something different about you that no one else has but everyone else can see. The bible even talks about how with christ you have a different auroma. What can you lose by believing?Its not like you are signing your life away. he is a loving God and if you choose not to follow him, he is not going to force you.

how do you know that science isnt liying to you either?

Have any of you ever heard of Dr. Kent Hovind? He is a creationist. He does debates with evolutionists. He has an offer out there of $200,000 to the first one who can prove evolution correct and creatin wrong. No one has been able to. Just thought you should know...if you have any questions for me, please contacct [e-mail]

bill k--of there were no eyewitness accounts, how are there stories?

Answer 1

YES WHY DON'T YOU I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TOO SO TELL US WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN GOD?

Answer 2

Not every culture in the world has an account of Jesus - prophets yes, but not the Jesus you speak of. That's just the Christian interpretation. If you're going to try and tell people they're wrong for not believing the same things you do, you should at least find a stronger argument.

As for why I don't believe in God - that's complicated. I believe in a higher power, some force that drives us to act a certain way and pushes us in certain directions and punishes us for our negative actions. Whether it's fate, Karma, Mother Nature, Buddha or any of the other hundreds of mystical forces, I haven't decided. I do know that I don't believe the Christian version because it doesn't feel right. I just can't form a belief system around a book that was written by humans and changed countless times over the last 2 millenia. I believe in Jesus in a historical context, and I think that if more Christians practiced what he preached the world would be a much better place.

Not to mention that belief in "God" seems to negate rational thought, and discourage anyone from ever thinking for themselves. You're told what to believe from a very young age, and when you question it you're threatened with horror stories about lakes of fire. So you grow up, have kids, and continue the cycle.

Answer 3

I believe in God just not the "Human" one that Christians believe in. Have you ever looked up just how the Bible got started or did you just have the preacher tell you the christian version? Why would you believe something that 3 men voted on (for the OT) and made the decision that the books they picked were "inspired of God". If 3 men told you today that they found godly books written by men and thought they were inspired of God you and everyone else would call that Crazy. Well that is what it is, crazy, even way back then. Even the books in the NT were not written until years after the death of Jesus and those men did not even know or meet the person, Jesus. And that person told that person and that person told this person and so on and so forth............. Get my drift.
So what happened to the fish in the seas and oceans when the flood came, all that fresh water would have killed all the salt water fish. Did you know that the first 5 books of the bible were already written 1500 years before the bible was written or even thought of? They were stories that the people in Mesopotania told to their kids. Really, just look it up on yahoo or google, research it for yourself. Do you know just how big of a boat you would need to house more than 2 million animals, insects, birds and etc.? Not to mention all the food for them and where do you get rid of the waste from that many animals, insects, birds and etc? Come on it's a nice story but that's all it is. And 40 years of that many people in the desert and not one aritfact found at all! Really.

Answer 4

I'm agnostic. So I don't just need evidence of god, I need proof. There's no proof. There's evidence for the existence of god, there's evidence for the non-existence of god, and there's PROOF of god not being how the classical christian interpretation presented him (Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnibenevolent).

If we assume that time isn't COMPLETELY infinite (as in, it hasn't existed always), then there has to be something we can call god. That something is the first cause: whatever is the initialization of all reality. But we don't know that this thing is anything even remotely like presented in the bible, or the koran, or if this is even a singular entity. There could be a collection of deities, or it could be the case that the world is like shamnism sugguests, or any number of other cases. You can't disprove god, because God as our definition transcends the concepts of logic (this is literally an unreasonable assumtpion, but that's pretty much what faith is about: not following logic. Which is just fine, you have to at some point, because logic is only based on itself). But you can't prove it in the sense that you want to either.

I'm not going to argue specific events in the bible like the flood or whatnot. That's totally irrelevant: If god can "do anything" he can make it work. So any rational arguement for or against it is moot. But that also means that it's difficult to argue against Christianity logically, which doesn't mean it's right, it just means that it's not something that can be discussed objectively.

But since when was objectivity our goal here?

Answer 5

Why would I?

There are enough people in the world already who believe in God 'just in case' such a creature exists! What an outrageous notion! Surely it's more important what I DO, than whether I go all out to cover all the bases...?!!

You speak of the bible being full of eyewitness accounts - I've read many eyewitness accounts that prove Bilbo Baggins, Frodo Baggins, & Gandalf the Wizard existed ... just because J.R.R.Tolkien was polite enough to put his name on the cover as 'author' doesn't mean your 'bible' is any more 'REAL'! Haven't you ever heard of 'fiction'??

You say that no-one's been able to prove evolution right and creation wrong ... but no-one's been able to prove creation right and evolution wrong either!!! Stalemate...!
; )

You say "The only other "con-man" who will EVER pull that off is the anti-christ." How do you know that your 'Jesus' was NOT the anti-christ?? Can you PROVE that he wasn't????? Of course not..!

I've said it before, and I'll probably end up saying it again, but it's IMPOSSIBLE to prove that something does NOT exist...!! If it DOES exist then it's SOMETIMES possible to prove it ... but just because you can't SEE something, touch it, smell it etc. doesn't prove that it ISN'T there! That applies to ghosts just as much as it applies to your God - that's why although I don't believe in her/him I don't insist that there's no such thing either - how could I PROVE it? But YOU can't prove that your god exists, yet you expect everyone else on the planet to agree with you! That's a bit one-sided of you, don't you think???

Answer 6

Be careful that you don't make people's beliefs too simplistic.

I for one, don't know. Not only that - but fundamentally, I know you don't
either.

You think you do, but since people change religion all the time, the
statistics are against you. What would make you special?

That being said: God could exist - and I will NEVER be able to prove that
he doesn't.

The fact that science can be entirely consistant and a useful predictor
across an ever growing portion of human experience - completely without
any mention of God - does not prove that God doesn't exist.

The nature of God is to be outside of our perception - which means
by his own nature he MUST be unknowable. You can have faith
in him and a set of precepts to attain a connection to him and it may
be very useful to lead your life celebrating him.

Or not.

Science strives for consistancy, most religions don't. To me, that means
that you have to take whatever religion you practice with a grain of salt.
For instance, if you were Christian pre-Copernicus/Galileo, you had
an entire religious establishment telling you that it was heretical to think
that the Earth revolved around the Sun. What do we believe now?

What, as a good Christian are you supposed to believe? If you believe
in the elders of the church, here's pretty good proof that they are not
infallible.

On the other hand - science is JUST as fallible. The ONLY difference is
that nobody in science is asking anybody to accept anything on faith.
If you think something isn't true, do some homework and prove it to
the rest of the world with repeatable experiments that it isn't true, etc.
Over time, skepticism and the repetition of experiments makes the
scientific model better and better at being useful for predicting.

*NO SUCH CYCLE EXISTS FOR RELIGION* That is, you can believe
in a religion all you like - it will not improve its ability to predict what
is going to happen next. You may think its good now, but it will only
ever be that good.

Science continues to get better. It may not improve our lives (do we
really need a cell phone that interupts us every 10 minutes?) - but
it certainly does enable us to predict what happens when we add
a few drops of chlorine to a pool or push wind around a curved
surface or add energy to a particle trying to accelerate it to the speed of
light.

Answer 7

Because it DOESN'T MAKE ANY FREAKING SENSE.

An invisible and all powerful being in the sky who commands everything? Hmmm . . . maybe he likes to hang with the Easter bunny too.

I think that Jesus DID exist. I do not think he was the son of god. I think maybe HE thought he was but he wasn't. Which is why there are many accounts of the dude.

As for Noah, that's the biggest load I've ever heard of. So a guy built a boat and took two of every animal and then just floated. Jesus Christ, no pun intended. What did they eat? What about exercise? How did Noah take two of every insect? And a flood that covered the earth in 40 days/nights? Yeah right.

I would also like to share my feelings on the Story of Jobe. Or Jove.

So God and Satan are sitting around one day and God goes "So Jobe/Jove is my most loyal subject and he would never forsake me no matter what happens?" and Satan goes "No crap? Mind if I try it?" and God goes "All yours, buddy." and Satan goes on to kill Jobe/Jove's family, his crops, his pets, his house, and pretty much everything he loves.

Good God. Pun intended.

Answer 8

I find that God and religion and an afterlife was created by man as something to attatch onto because we cannot believe that death is the end. People dont want to accept that when their friend dies that they are gone, they want to believe that they moved on to a better place. Think about history, every culture has had some form of religion, what does that tell you? Each culture created their own religion. It is all man made. The Greeks had their religion until they died out and then their religion died and a new religion was born in another civilization. It is all made by man. The bible was written by man not god. and jesus was simply the front man to the revolution of christianity. Although I hate atheists who push their views on people just as I hate christians who push their views on people. Everyone needs to learn to accept each others beliefs.

Answer 9

Science is proof!! When the police investigate a crime they cannot arrest anyone without evidence, You would never arrest any one because you have "faith" that their guilty. There is overwhelming evidence of evolution, how the earth and universe were created, etc. So I have more faith in science. And when I see a child suffering from cancer and it eating them up from the inside out I have a hard time understanding why God would do that to an Innocent child, who has never done anything to anyone, and no one can tell me that it because the parents are being punished for there sins, because that would be like you being executed because your dad killed someone, it just doesn't make sense.

Answer 10

Wait, wait wait -- God is excellent, and not using a evil or sin?!? What approximately the killing of the firstborns, or the slaughter of such a lot of guys, females, and youngsters? It's in all places within the Bible -- you may have learn the Bible, have not you? Or are those acts of atrocity ok quite simply seeing that they are played by way of your "excellent" god? Moving on, although ... after studying your complete paragraph, I nonetheless do not fully grasp why an all-robust god has to abide by way of the foundations of our bodily international. You deliver up a court docket crisis, and being "reasonable" -- good, if God is all robust, s/he could be ready to override some thing that s/he desired to. In quick, because of this both: a million) God are not able to override those legislation, and is hence no longer all-robust, or two) Can override the legislation in any respect s/he pleases, however chooses to not. But, going again to what I was once in the beginning pronouncing, I nonetheless do not get how you'll declare the Judeo-Christian god to be reasonable, all-loving, or excellent in any respect whilst, within the Bible, he suggests himself to be not anything greater than a "jealous, . . . petty, unjust, unforgiving manage-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic purifier; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolant bully" (within the phrases of Richard Dawkins). And if someone desires to contest that the above isn't precise ... I will likely be blissful to furnish an extended record of Biblical verses proving that it's. But, once more, are the entire crimes dedicated by way of the Biblical god come what may condoned by way of the truth that he is your god?

Answer 11

Because every people in the world have an account of Jesus, is not legitimate logical reason to believe in the christian God. The word 'God' is subjective, and can mean different things to different people in different cultures. You need to understand that God, Jesus, and Higher Power all have different meanings. FYI Buddha is in fact older and more recognized throughout the world than Jesus.