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1) Just about everybody knows the word "Lucifer" as another name for Satan. The word "Lucifer" is found one time in the King James Bible.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!


(2) But what about the NIV? The word "Lucifer" is clean, bald-headed gone and now this creature is identified as the "morning star". Lucifer is the "morning star" in the NIV.

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

2006-07-29 08:19:38 · 9 answers · asked by 自由思想家 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

(3) So we know that in the NIV the "morning star" is a negative, evil figure. Right? He was fallen from heaven. He was cast down to the earth. Can we find the "morning star" anywhere else in the NIV? Yes! The following passages in the NIV show the "morning star" as Jesus Christ! But the NIV just called the fallen creature of Isaiah 14:12 "morning star". Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV! Lord have mercy, Jesus! Help me, Lord.

NIV: Revelation 22:16,
"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you [1] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

NIV: 2 Peter 1:19,
And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

NIV: Revelation 2:28--
I will also give him the morning star.

2006-07-29 08:19:57 · update #1

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Jesus is the true Morning Star.

Satan is the false Morning Star, whose brilliance is truly magnificent, but counts for nothing, and will end up as nothing.

2006-07-29 10:51:37 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

God refers to Lucifer as son of the Morning,and Jesus as the Morning Star.....
Revelation 22:16
"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you [ The Greek is plural.] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

2006-07-29 15:22:33 · answer #2 · answered by Thomas J 2 · 0 0

Lucifer was the morning star he was an arch angel leader on the same level and Michael, but rebelled against God and was cast down. He was also considered the most beautiful of the Angels. not at all what he is portrayed as now.

2006-07-29 15:28:00 · answer #3 · answered by Chetco 7 · 0 0

Interesting. I didn't know that Jesus was also considered the morning star. Prefer what, I believe, is the Muslim version of Lucifer's fall: he did not fall because of his pride, but because of his humility. When God created the angels, He told them to bow to no one but Him. However, when God created Adam, He told the angels to bow to Adam. Lucifer refused, because he loved God so much, he could bow to no one but Him.

Now, that may not be an accurate interpretation of the Muslim version; I got that interpretation from Bill Moyer's series of interviews with Joseph Campbell, called *Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth*. It's a wonderful series, although some may disagree with his theories (as a polytheist, I do a bit).

2006-07-29 15:30:04 · answer #4 · answered by lalasnake 3 · 0 0

Jesus is the Morning Star.

2006-07-29 15:23:00 · answer #5 · answered by d8 2 · 0 0

Names of Satan are many
He tries to take many of the names of Christ.
Some other names of Satan

Son of the Sun
Mouth of God
Morning star
Evening star
The light of God
He that covers
The beautiful one
The words of God
The Devil
Lord of Hell
Lucifer
The Dragon
Son of God
The bright one
Greater then the Great
Man of perdition
Liar
Father of murder
Angle of light
Morning Angle
Angle of darkness

There are far more but I don't have the list anymore

2006-07-29 17:38:57 · answer #6 · answered by Grandreal 6 · 0 0

We don't see the Bible calling Satan "Lucifer" (Morning Star, Shining One) in Isaiah 14:12, it refers to the King of Babylon and is mocking him suggestively. In contrast, When Christ is referred to as the Morning Star (Rev 22:16), and Light Bearer (2 Peter 1:19), it is acknowledging Him. Two entirely different directions. When studying the Bible, it's important to read the whole passage before making assumptions.

Isaiah 14:12

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

"12 How hast thou fallen from the heavens, O shining one, son of the dawn! Thou hast been cut down to earth, O weakener of nations."

This is a verse Mocking the King of Babylon, and Babylon itself.



The noun "lucifer" translates "Morning Star," or "The Planet Venus", and even a verb meaning "Light Bringing" but not to "Satan" - "Accuser" or Adversary"... It is a Latin word used in that verse in the Latin Vulgate, and then later the KJV, and also to describe the planet Venus in Latin, but was not necessarily the name used for Satan until long after the 1st century Christians who wrote the remainder of the Bible.

Therefore it is safe to say that the verse in Isaiah 14:12 (Shining One, Day Star) is most likely not referring to the same person as 2 Peter 1:19 (Literal grk. "Light Bearer") and Revelation 22:16 (Literal grk. "The Bright Star of the Morning"), but the Babylonian King/Babylon itself in the then future - This is why it is dangerous to just read one Bible verse, but rather must read the whole chapter, or at least the whole passage to get the whole meaning before making assumptions.

It is also important to Note that the New Testament is written in Greek, the Old in Hebrew and in places Aramaic (a few chapters in Ezra, & Daniel, and a sentence in Jeremiah). Therefore No place in the original language did the word Lucifer come up (a Latin Vulgate Word) yet the word Satan (Accuser, Adversary) was used many times when referring to the actual fallen angel, Satan.

It is also important to note that Isaiah 14:12 is a mocking verse directed to the person it refers to, and may very well be making a comparison to Who he thought he was, ie. the "Shining One", ie, the Messiah.

Therefore it is also safe to assume that the Bible nowhere intends to say that Jesus Christ the Messiah is the same person as Satan the Fallen Angel. Nor does it actually intend to refer to Satan when mocking the fallen king of Babylon, however the translators may have felt there was a comparison in the text. However the Bible Never Mocks Heavenly Beings.

Thus the word Lucifer is not the original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek name for Satan, but actually "Satan" itself is. The verse in Isaiah 14:12 refers to Babylon and NOT to Satan (and "Lucifer" is the Latin word for "Morning Star", not "Satan" - "The Accuser" or "Adversary"), yet the two have been closely related throughout History. However the Bible does suggest the the Greek word for "Light Bearer" (2 Peter 1:19) is a reference to Christ Jesus after his resurrection and consequential ascension.

Thus it is safe to say that Jesus Christ is the Morning Star, the Light Bearer, and the Messiah who came to visit us before his eternal Reign begins in the near future, and that Isaiah 14:12 is a mockery of the Babylonian King who thought he was the "Great Shining One" but is now just dust and a memory.


To clarify more about who Jesus Christ is, I would suggest reading Colossians 1:11-29

Here is a link:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A+11-29&version=ESV

Good Luck ;-)

2014-02-23 09:05:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Lucifer=Light bearer.

2006-07-29 15:24:58 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus IS Lucifer.

Jehovah is Satan.

Donald Duck is the Anti-Christ.

Pee Wee Herman is the Anti-Elvis.

-SD-

2006-07-29 15:27:11 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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