She surmises that the Government is not going to deport illegals, since they want them here ... business wants cheap labor etc. OK, I buy that ... so the question is, WHY is government not doing anything abour border security, illegal aliens etc? I think the answer can be found in their beloved Nafta+ plan, headed up by Condi Rice and Michael Chertoff .. which in its fruition will mean free flow of PEOPLE, goods and services from Mexico to Canada ...their reasoning being why should they spend money on something that will have to be demolished in a few years time? Does anybody really believe that our Commander in Chief couldn't have our borders secured if he wanted to?? They do token deportations, mainly of criminals, talk about Nat Guards .. pay lipservice to what is needed ... but no real action! If and when this plan has become reality, there will be no more independent U.S. ... good thing is of course that Americans will be able to go and live in Canada .. hmmmm ... :)
2006-07-28
17:12:49
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Obviously this isn't what I want ... this is what I'm afraid could happen if people didn't sit up and take notice .. what we have to do is make sure we vote these traitors out come election time, and make sure their odious plan is scuppered!!
2006-07-28
17:32:46 ·
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hadenough .. I agree ... I just don't want people to take the eye off the ball ... there's one heck of a lot at stake here .. I for one don't want this country to be sold down the swanney because of corporate greed and spineless politicians....
2006-07-28
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Bandito, did you say Mexico hates Nafta? Then dump it!
Bush is now being sued by 4 cases now. The wheels are turning slowly towards impeachment.
If we were going to keep them here it would have happened already. The longer it goes on the more guaranteed it is we'll get what we want.
When those borders go, it will be a warzone and America will no longer be a welfare state - it will be occupied by thugs in Washington with an army. All bets are off. And people are learning this more and more every day.
All you pro-criminals haven't read yet that it's up to 17 years before you get a green card and by law you have to be paid more than Americans - a move that Bush and the Senate will force employers to stop hiring you to clean toilets and stick those anchovies after you clean them each in a can.
You think the Senate Bill is for you? The only thing it will do is have 50 million of you up here with no work. Tell me that's not a recipe for crime, death, and civil war.
Read it yourself. Then tell me is Bush really your friend - or is he after your oil to open the borders and exploit you far beyond your wildest dreams. If the USA caused all the problems in Mexico supposedly, and you hate nafta now - just wait until CAFTA comes - and adds another 39 countries to the equation and they are all after your jobs.
The only thing your stuck on is Aztlan - you'll be screwed by the USA and then each of the other countries will take their turn screwing you. Do you really think your government has your best interest in mind?
If there's a 41 NAFTU and you want to go to war with USA to take land back - how many of those countries will help you? Will you die in America ? Do you want her that much? Then why don't you pledge your alliegience to Mexico and bring her up the way you want?
All I'm saying is your gonna get so screwed over by everyone's government you'll be lucky to still be speaking Spanish. You are building the tower of Babel, not us.
The Senate Bill wins we erase borders...banks in Mexico are national...what happens to your money when so do ours?
It freaking amazes me how you'll fight for cheap labor even for good jobs, but don't give a damn about fighting in your own country which is so short on labor now for GREAT money on good jobs.
Don't you think the Mexican elite know this and have their own plan to exploit you when the borders are erased?
That's right..spit it out...the Mexican elite LOVE YOU!!
And when the constitution falls...what alliegience did you take to the new superstate...what authority did you give...on who's law have you been made bound to defend?
When those borders go, Washington only has guns over us, nothing else. I would seek out and tell everyone to stop paying taxes for an illegal government. If they can't jail 20 million, how about 100 million or so not paying taxes, then what can they do?
Not a damn thing about it. Then we represent ourselves again.
2006-07-28 19:02:17
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answered by yars232c 6
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Ha, ha, the Minutemen don't count, as far as hadenough discussion point; you have given a pretty good review here; the thing to remember is this has long been "on the books" from past administrations. This is not something that will be dismantled just because we have Minutemen and a few indian reservation residents working on a fence. What a joke. Maybe Pancha is right in that the government has not come up with a legitimate way to deport over 12 million people. NAFTA is old news and is just now manifesting. Why is everybody here surprised?
By the way, I agree with the rest of your point, just lip service and a few token deportations for the media to feed on.
2006-07-28 17:44:24
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answered by LaContessa 4
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I totally agree with you....
I have been saying that from the beginning, our focus is on illegals, but they are only a symptom of the problem...The real problem is this administration....Remember Clinton was responsible for NAFTA and I really feel this govt. secretly wants to implement a state with Mexico and Canada.
What would that do to our sovereignty and our constitution? You think those countries will adopt our constitution? What about Mexico, they are a third world country and how can we fix them to become a first world country? Who will make it happen? Mexico? I think not. We will all suffer if this ever happens.....
And its all about the money, because those who stand to make the most money are greedy politicians and corporations....And if you all think for a moment it isn't going to happen, just look at the EU....They made it happen, despite what the fact the Europeans were against it...The world is heading for a new world order, its even on the dollar bill, wake up America!
Thanks, for finally seeing the light...
2006-07-28 18:20:19
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Corporations run our media and government. However, our governor today said that since we have the Minutemen and National Guards on Arizona borders, the illegal immigrants are changing course and heading more into California and Texas now. I think that politicians are going to do something. I agree with hadenough too. It would be interesting if any boycott will effect corporate Gods!
2006-07-28 17:54:13
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answered by Anonymous
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assume for a moment that Pancha is correct?
LMFAOff
In That Instance
(not going to deport - etc.)
They Want As Many ILLEGAL ALIENS
In The Nation As Possible
Before The Border Is Secured
According To The Demands Of The Citizens
Until That Time (Border Is Secured)
Theyre All Still ILLEGAL And Subject To Deportation
hmmmm
Ask yourselves....why ? would they let them come ?
LMFAOff
2006-07-28 17:19:57
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answered by JD 2
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I think their plan will be changed-they didn't expect that 80-90% of the people would complain and say No. And they never counted on the Minutemen. Or that some Indian Reservations would help put a fence up. This throws a curve to them -that they will have to listen too . They have no choice.
2006-07-28 17:32:31
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answered by *** The Earth has Hadenough*** 7
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PANCHA is wrong. She's simply spewing words given to her by those in MENCHA, La Raza, and AZTLAN, who use their poor to promote their plan to steal America...
Vicente Fox hired a public relations firm to try to set up arguments to change the thinking of the American people...why...to continue flooding us with his people. This way he planned to conquer us from within....
Clearly, the plan is to expand Mexico's border and seize all our assets. Clearly, Bush has greater expectations...being king of the world....
BUT, America has awaken and are incensed....one way or another, illegals will leave our beloved country....
The screaming and kicking by the illegals are the screaming and kicking of people who suddenly realize that they've been found out...
The lies are seen....we're not falling for the race card, the "poor me", the "you need us" or "we do the work you lazy whites won't"
2006-07-28 17:27:13
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Wow! I will never assume that the one known as pancha is correct about anything. I despise that person for reasons of my own.
Yars needs a tribal name. Here is the one that I have chosen. Double Barreled Eagle Eyes. He sees farther and truer than any here.
2006-07-29 07:48:03
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answered by Renegade. 3
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answer with a Q. since when da illegals start to be more noticed here? 1995, in 1994 USA Canada & Maxico sign da fri..ing nafta 16 years ago! search since when da ilegals was more and more, one more do a research about how many construction co. have spanic owners?, working on da highway & roads.
2006-07-28 17:33:22
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