Soldiers obey orders before they complain. They fight wars but only complain when they are already veterans or disabled. That is the mark of soldiers.
2006-07-28 15:04:49
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answer #1
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answered by FRAGINAL, JTM 7
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I, ___________________________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
The "so help me God" part is optional - you don't have to say it if it's contrary to your religious beliefs.
Nowhere does it say "President Bush". It says the President of the United States, because, regardless of who that person is, they are the person elected by the people according to the Constitution. (Regardless of whether you voted for him or not, obviously others did.)
Most military members have the same attitude towards the President as, say, the White House Chef, the Stewards, etc - Presidents come and go, your duty is (in the case of the military) to the Office of the Presidency, and (in the case of the domestic staff in the White House) to the house itself, not so much to the individual residing in it for 4 or 8 yrs.
I was Active duty for a time, and my husband is still Active Duty, and he has been for 16 yrs - note - that is under both Bush's and a Clinton. He doesn't obey Bush's orders (and didn't obey Clinton's) because he particularly liked, disliked, agreed, or disagreed with them. He does it because the PEOPLE of this country elected them to the office, and the CONSTITUTION says that the military will answer to WHOEVER is in that office.
But, then again, I doubt any of this is something you will want to understand, because it's much more fun, cool (and safe) to insult and degrade the military, and the sacrifices they make. Because if you don't, you might actually have to show someone other than yourself and your own little group some appreciation and respect.
Heaven forbid THAT ever happen.....
2006-07-28 22:29:41
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answered by seasailorwife 2
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The whole point of us being in Iraq and Afghanistan is to root out terrorists that pose a threat or who are members of organizations that have made good on their threats towards America. And last time I checked-Iraqis WANT us there (not all...some are very afraid of us because of what they have heard from Sadaam and his goons and other radical Muslims-not the word radical as oppose to every day Muslims that just want to live a life in peace).
So perhaps we have dismantled the terrorist organizations for the most part...we've done our job and we should leave-but the Iraqi people want a democratic government and they want the help of the west...if we just cut and run now...the sporadic terrorist groups will just reunite and set up a new dictatorship. So maybe that isn't technically fighting for 'America' but it is fighting for American ideals. As one of the richest and most powerful nations, we have a moral obligation to help those with less economic and military power overcome evil and have freedom, democracy and peace-even if it is none of our business.
Bottom line-they want us there-they want our help and serves our own national interests to help them.
You are skating on thin ice with your comments about servicemen...hey, I know...why don't you go to a troop arrival and spit in their faces...sound a bit extreme? Well- so does your comment about the men volunteering to fight for one man. Not to mention your comment is completely inane seeing that a huge portion (probably over half) of the military is made up of people who joined before Bush was ever in office.
It seems to me that you are the one who is the tool...letting the carpenters of the extreme left spoon feed your thoughts about something and somebody you obviously know nothing about.
Lucky for you....this is a free country (sort of...if it weren't for all the senseless laws and policies and rules that the left burdens us with) and a free forum...so go ask your puppet-master what you should say or think and come back and share so the rest of can enjoy the 'show'.
2006-07-28 22:31:16
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answered by redfernkitty 3
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So my husband who joined the Military twenty years ago at the age of a eighteen joined to fight for Bush who wasn't even elected until November 2000? And all the others that joined before Bush took office, or the ones that joined before 9/11, they all did it to fight for Bush? You're not too swift, are ya?
You know what? Our Military doesn't need your support. We have enough Americans, rather they're for the war and
President Bush or against them, that support our brave men and women in uniform. You say that they couldn't pay you to enlist, well THANK GOD the rest of us don't have to worry about someone like you serving with our loved ones. There is a difference between you and them, they are brave and stand for everything this country is about, and you are just a disgrace to the United States. Let's get this straight, your feeling's about the President doesn't bother me, it's your lack of respect for our troops that is sickening.
2006-07-28 23:17:35
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answered by Naples_6 5
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Because these men and women voluteer to keep the families they leave behind safe. They do it because of a cause they believe in or they need to support their families and that is one way they can do it. It doesn't matter if you are not supporting our military. If the military is ever dismantled, and we are being attacked left and right on our own soil, we will see who is calling for their help in the end! Will you be volunteering your life? Probably not because you asked this stupid question! They have to keep their moral up by getting letters that are classified from people they are saving overseas, but the media doesn't want to report about. You should think about the families of these people that are giving their lives before posting such useless garbage. Take your political agendas elsewhere! have a nice day!
2006-07-28 22:08:44
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answered by Erica B 2
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That's the joy of freedom! You don't have to support me or the rest of the military. You have the right to not like the current state of affairs, and also the right to protest it. You have the right to provide or not provide support for the nations military.
As I was reading this question, the oath of enlistment came to mind. Luckily, there are other people with similar thinking, as they have already posted it here for you.
So think what you want. Speak what you want. Support who and what you want. I'm cool with that. I promise you this - I'll be dead before anyone takes those rights from you, and I know that I wouldn't be alone in that battle.
2006-07-29 10:30:32
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answered by Anonymous
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You should be supporting the people of the military who are fighting to make this world a better place for you and I to live in. People join the military to have a career and for whatever other reasons they may have. And I don't think that too many people are joining to fight for someone else. It is quite unfortunate that military members die in the performance of their jobs and their duties. But so do police officers, fire fighters, bus drivers, and fishermen. Military members serve a higher purpose than what you are noting. Take a step back and have a good look at these people. I was one of them and I didn't join to serve anyone. I joined for a career, for comraderie and teamwork, and to make a difference in the world. Whatever that may be. And I learned a lot more than how to do my trade and how to fire weapons.
2006-07-29 17:52:19
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answered by L. S 3
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Try doing a little research as to how much the middle east affects the US and the world. An unstable gov't anywhere is bad for a country as big as ours.
And we don't volunteer to fight for bush, but to fight for America. You need read more than some one sided view of how america is run.
2006-07-28 22:06:42
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answered by Anonymous
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I agree. Unfortunately most wrong-thinking Americans assume if you're anti-war you must be anti-America. They're spoon fed simplistic arguments about freedom and lap them up, assuming that the government is always spotlessly non-corrupt when it comes to wars.
That's why wars are always a fantastic vote-winner.
Anyway, go with your gut instinct- it's almost certainly correct. Reminds me of a classic quote:
"I'm in the position of being for the war, but against the troops. Not the most popular stance I've ever taken but there you go....."
RIP Bill Hicks.
2006-07-28 22:05:20
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answered by Oli 3
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You know my husband is over there right now. And let me tell you something if it was not for men and women like him we would all be up a terrible creak. Remember the Vietnam war, there was not enough soldiers to fill the needs so the government started the draft. Those soldiers are over there to keep us safe and sound. And also so you have the ability to say that you don't approve of this war. Please remember the soldiers and they are doing this for all of us.
2006-07-28 22:22:35
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answered by sam 2
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You're a dumb fcuk, Bush isn't the only who declares war; congress can call war and not give a damn what Bush thinks, or they can veto it, even if Bush objects. You seriously need to learn more about the way the govt. works before you ask such ridiculous questions, not to mention the way the Armed Forces work as well.
2006-07-28 22:15:38
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answered by Anonymous
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