Religion Free World Better?

Question

Given this:

Stalin was an atheist

The Communist Chinese were atheists

Why is it that so many people persist in believing that the world would be better off without religion? Atheists are capable of ***-kicking too, so don't blame religion for all the world's ills. If we had no religion, human beings would find all kinds of new and interesting ways to kill each other and treat each other like crap.

Who's with me on this?

Answer 1

Religion is the number one killer in the world and is the cause of most fights between friends and that includes Christian. Religion is man made buy some body who wanted to make a quick buck. why else would there be a fee just to be able to go to church to talk about how other people are going to hell

Answer 2

You're right, Stalin was an atheist and Mao was an atheist, but they did not kill becuase they were atheist. Religious people, on the other hand, have killed throughout history because of their religion. Look at the Inqusitions, the witch hunts,and slavery---all of which were supported and carried out by religious people. Atheist have never burned anyone at the stake for disagreeing, Christians have. No atheist has ever blown themselves up with a car bomb because of their beliefs...religious people do. When people start using reason and logic as their guides rather than books supposedly written by gods the world will be better off....period.

Answer 3

The people you used for examples had other beliefs as well not just the atheism... Stalin was a paranoid power mad psychopath and Mao was just as power happy maybe not as psychopathic

More people have been killed in the name god than any other reason. That's right in HIS name Jews were killed, women were burned at the stake hung drowned stoned because they may have been witches. The Spanish inquisition killed hundreds of thousands in the name of god. How many killed in all the crusades, Not just Christians have done this in Afghanistan and many other Muslim nations according to sharia law if you leave the religion you can be killed.

I would be willing to go this way if you are found intolerant of anyone elses religion then YOU are killed

Answer 4

Everyone needs to believe in something, even atheists believe in the non-existence of God. But the problem with organized religion is that along with fulfilling this need, it adds a whole lot of crap you have to do at the same time.

The better solution would be for us to believe in each other. That we are all basically good and that humanity can overcome its problems on its own without "help from above."

Seeing as how many of our problems come from religion in the first place, completely replacing them would give us a head start.

Answer 5

I'm not with you.

Christians, Muslims, and other religious folks have been inventing and applying new and interesting ways of killing since day 1. The Inquisition employed dozens of torture methods that curl my teeth just to think about them

Besides, religion itself isn't the cause of "all the world's aills," so you might as well climb down from your cross right now and stop playing martyr.

The problem is that established religion consolidates power, and the power of sundry church bodies has been abused an incomprehensible number of times, to the enormous detriment of humanity.

Can war be waged without religious cause? Certainly. In fact, there are plenty of examples where religion is only the excuse, not the reason, for the war.

Then consider that there are plenty of people who live fabulous, giving lives that tough and affent everyone around them, without any religious guidance. And plenty of people who apply their religious beliefs to the pursuit of evil.

So let's quit makeing sweeping blanket statements about the value of religion, k?

Answer 6

You have answered your own question and did that well, very well. Thanks for a good question. By the way, for Communists, it was a Religion for them. Carl Marx was revered 'like' a Prophet, and his writings held as if they were sacred books. Dialectical Materialism Philosophy expressed the Kerygma of the Communist 'Faith'. So, the world has never been without a 'religion'. The new 'religions' after Communism are the religions of Democracy, MultiNationalCapitalism, the New World Order, Might-is-Right....

Answer 7

and dictators like King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia who require all citizens to be muslam on the pain of torture?
or Omar al-Bashir of Sudan, whos carry out a religious and ethnic cleansing (darfur)?
or Ayatollah Khomeini, religious dictator of iran?
Hitler? Franco?
and before this when wars were fought over religious issues? people being prosecuted over religion?
dicatators, are bad people regardless of whether they are atheist or religious.
religion can be a good thing, so long as it is seperate from state. when people use religion as a cover for their political actions, i think that is disgusting.
i do think that religion has given us a lot of good things and even if it didnt exist, we would have come up with one. as humans it would seem that we cant accept that for certain questions there are simply no answers.
and while atheists do not seem to have any "moral rules", like the ones that the religious have, we are quite capable of decided what is right and what is wrong.

Answer 8

Stalin and the Red Chinese. Gotcha. Nice straw-men.

Turn back the clock a few more centuries and keep going to the beginning of time. What is the ALMOST universal component in the history of warfare (besides, you know, death and destruction)? Try religion and the desire of men to impose their will upon others.

Answer 9

Hitler was a christian.
Bush is a wonderful christian.
Suicide Bombers have lots of religion.
I could point to the Crusades and the Inquisition too.

I think we found out that communists were not the root of all evil we once thought they were.

You are going to find people never do evil more freely and completely as when they do it in the name of god.

Answer 10

All I can say is if we had a world without religion, everyone would be a total wreck. Nobody will have any spiritual confidence. Also, you have to realize, when we die, where do we go. Theres heaven or hell. Its your choice what you choose. Me, i choose Heaven.