Several Gay Marriage Questions Re-post?

Question

I'm re-posting a question I asked about a day ago. I'm hoping that I'll get more(or different) answers when there's less traffic here. And I'm still annoyed by that question mark.
1.) Why does it matter if the definition of the word "marriage" changes?
2.) Why does the "tradition" of marriage matter, despite many gay people getting married in the past?
3.) Regardless of whether or not homosexuality is a sin, why do you care enough to prevent two people from obtaining a legal document?
4.) What effects would gay marriage have on your life?
5.) Why is it any of your business?
6.) If you believe in only allowing heterosexuals to marry, would you agree that marriage should only be recognized by X church and not the state?

Answer 1

For those who oppose gay marriage, can you think of any other answer other than "the bible says", "God says" and/or its just sick or some other lame insult. The bible was written a long time ago, it does not support the way the world is now obviously. Are we all typing on computers, did the bible say that technology and the internet is a holy thing? These are not the dark ages folks!

Personally, how does it affect your life. If a man and a man marry in Pennsylvania and you live in Texas please answer how this will affect you personally. Is there a reasonalbe and intelligent answer for those who oppose it? Do not use the bible excuse, its way over used and unconvincing. Flock is the word that is used to describe believers. It's okay to think for yourself these days, really.

There are SO many other issues to deal with in this country. For those fighting to keep the preservation of a "traditional" marriage,
turn your attention to more pressing issues. Take your energy and do some good with it. I have listed a few to get you started.
Pedophile priests (oh no, what is that?) Must of been that devil?
Child abuse and neglect (Never by our fellow christian brothers and sisters, lol)
Animal abuse and neglect (again, what is the excuse)
Overpopulated orphanages(No amount of gay marriages will take away the existence of procreation), lack of affordable adoption options (Let the gay couple adopt, take care of that heterosexual couples unwanted kid) (who threw all these kids out anyway?)
There are many others but these few revolve around the main concern of the ability to let the race go on. It will.

Go do something good, make a difference in someone's life by helping, not hurting. I think those opposed to it only wish they were as happy and as strong in love to actually fight for it.

Divorce rate is 50% or more now. We have reality shows like who wants to marry a millionaire, the bachelor and I know there are others. Marriage isn't sacred in this country. Its a billion dollar industry. Look at the divorce attorneys, cost of court, the cost of weddings, the alimony payments. Give me a break! How many people do you know or yourself have cheated on your spouse? Exactly!

We as parents make our children who they are, don't blame anyone else for it. If your son or daughter is gay, then who's fault is it?

Answer 2

I think gay marriage should be legal, I think it is quite unfair that they can't marry the person they love. They don't get any of the rights that I as a married person have. Being married means insurance coverage, lower car insurance rates, if something happened to me or my husband we would both automatically have the right to make the medical decisions. I could keep listing because the list goes on, some are small things and some are quite important.
I did notice though that quite a few of the people on here wouldn't consider me married although I am. I did not have any religion in my wedding, I was married in a mayors office, the church and God have absolutely nothing to do with my marriage.
As for teaching our children that being gay is wrong, you can teach them anything they want and yet since homosexuality isn't taught it won't matter.

Answer 3

1) There are two parts to marriage. The first part is the legal or civic part. This covers law and legal rights that involve things like taxes and how to deal with divorce, child custody issues, who gets to make decisions in case of incapacitation, so on and so forth. The second part is the religion. Each religion and even each sect within each religion defines what is marriage or what's allowed in marriage in its own way. Some things are the same as other, there are some things that aren't.

2) The "tradition" of marriage only matters when someone thinks that they "own" marriage and they alone get to have it. Calling it a "tradition" lends the aura legitimacy to an argument, even though it means nothing in and of itself. For example, the pagan tradition of burning a yule log over solstice means nothing when it's usurped for other purposes.

3) Homosexuality is not a sin. Neither is bisexuality. I care enough to make sure I vote for people who are for antidiscrimination laws, such as making sure marriage is a civil right for all. If I'd heard of any, I would not support legislation that forces a religious institution to perform gay marriage.

4) Gay marriage only effects my life in that discrimination based enshrining a religious morality into law, unConstitutionally, really irks me. Discriminating against a minority in favor of the will of the majority diminishes us all in that it allows us to perpetuate oppression.

5) Because I'm a registered voter in a country where everyone is supposed to be treated equally under the law, not select groups that fall within a certain segment of the population. It's every citizen's responsibility to guard against the loss of civil liberty. Anyone's civil liberty.

6) I believe that anyone who is of age and can provide informed consent should be permitted to legally marry.

Answer 4

Really, marriage is a social custom and a religious one.

The govenrment has no business regulating religions that aren't harmful to the public. Imagine the uproar that would occur if the government started issuing 'baptism licences' and determined who could and could not be baptized! Some religions have no problem with homosexuality. Some suggest that all marriage is to be avoided. And some promote even more radical forms of marriage. We cannot have a state religion, so any arguments on the basis of religion are right out.

The government likewise has no business regulating social customs that aren't harmful to the public. Again, can we imagine laws about who you can be friends with or whether you're allowed to shake hands? Perhaps we can these days, and that's the more disturbing part! Yet the government presumes to assert that you have no right to marry ANYBODY without their permision. What right do they have to issue licences in this regard?

I suggest they have no right at all. Get the government out of the marriage business. They have enough other things to take care of without spending time worrying about details that have nothing to do with the overall welfare of the state.

Thank you.

Answer 5

Okay, well I personally don't have a problem with -I guess what is being called "civil unions"....I believe this means that 2 people can have a legal document saying they are as a couple. (For legal and financial purposes)...
They should not take each other's last name...and they should not "marry" as marriage is a contract with God between a man and a woman. It always has been. God says how He feels about homosexuality....if He had felt differently then He would have said ANY TWO PEOPLE, but He didn't---He said man and wife, specifically.
I don't believe a true man of God could join 2 gays together in God's name without calling judgment on them all, but some have done worse things, so whatever the case may be....God will do as He sees fit.
The problem people have that aren't gay isn't necessarily that they hate gays and want to make them miserable. It's that if our gov't allows it, then it will bring God's judgment on us as a nation. It will bring chaos on our society as to which laws stand and which do not.....it would break us down....

Answer 6

Well, I want to ask you why the homosexuals are pushing this issue? You might say to seek justice or equality. I would say to legitimize their actions. So, what we need to do is ask what marriage really is and who has authority to define it instead of perverting it.

In my opinion, a true marriage is a union between a man and a woman that is ready, willing, and able to get married and that it is BLESSED BY GOD! What does this all mean? This means that both the man and woman are physically, mentally, and spiritually bonded. The PURPOSE of marriage is procreation sancitfied by God. Now, what bothers most people is the homosexuals attack against the BOY SCOUTS, THE CHURCH, THE BIBLE, RELIGION AND GOD. There is no ambiguity in the Bible and true Christian Churches about homosexuality being immoral. You obviously dismiss it as a sin. You don't care if you offend God who you owe your whole existence to. You show ingratitude and selfishness when you say, "Regardless of whether or not homosexuality is a sin..." If you want to condemn yourself for all eternity go right ahead.

Why is it any of my business? You and people like you have made it my business by making a stink of the whole issue on a national scale. I am a patriotic American that knows we are one nation under God and must fight off repears of justice. So, I will vote and push to keep marriage what it has been for thousands of years instead of perverting it.

YOU MIGHT THINK HOMOSEXUALS GET MARRIED but in reality you're living a fantasy because GOD DOES NOT BLESS HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS. So, live out your fantasy. Believing in homosexual marriages is intellectually dishonest.

Answer 7

1) It doesn't matter. Because it already has. Marriage once included polygamy. At another time, it meant a bond between one man and one woman OF THE SAME COLOR. Regardless of what other people claim, we're not operating from the same definition of marriage as what existed centuries ago.

2) "Tradition" is always the lamest excuse for any kind of intolerance.

3) Some people try to feel better about themselves by judging and hating other people. It's not PC to hate based on color anymore, so intolerant people now pick on gays.

4) Since I'm not gay, gay marriage wouldn't effect me. It wouldn't effect anyone unless they are either gay or obsessed with poking their nose into other peoples' sex lives.

5) It's not

6) n/a for me I guess.

Answer 8

Search4Truth seems to know a lot about gay fantasies.
Note the Capslock.
Hey, Dee M. Sorry to burst your bubble, but male dogs do sometimes 'get intimate' with each other. Regardless of how much you want to think it doesn't, homosexual relations happen in nature. Naturally. Nice try, but you still failed to make sense.

Frankly, I don't have an issue with gay marriage. They can go have orgies in the house next door, as long as they don't get too loud, for all I care. Just because someone else chooses that path, or takes that path or whatever they call it nowadays, does not mean that you or your children should. Tell your children how you feel about it, of course, but don't punish those who do live that lifestyle for your insecurities. They have just as much of a right to live that way as the people who don't get married have a right to live alone for the rest of their lives. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Just because your god hates them, doesn't mean everyone else does.

Answer 9

I know it's not a popular stance, but that doesn't change the truth of it. God says homosexuality is wrong. Why should I reward people who are going against what God says? Giving them that "paper" condones what they do. Condoning what they do goes against what my God says.

If gay marriage is so wonderful, try populating the earth with it (without artificial means). It doesn't work. This is not how people were created to be.

It is my business because the gay society is a very, very small portion of the population and they are forcing their agenda on people who don't want it. It offends my religious beliefs, the religious beliefs that this country was founded on, the religious beliefs that George Washington said would be the one thing to hold this country together.

Marriage is recognized by God. Even if a state here gives a homosexual the right to get married, it is not a marriage because God says it is not.

Fight all you want against it, but you are fighting against God. He's the One who said it was wrong. Take it up with Him.

Think about it. Without homosexuality or promiscuity (heterosexual or homosexual), think of all those diseases that would cease to exist. No more STDs, no more AIDs. If everyone followed God's ideal of one man and one woman for life, think about what life would be. No divorces, no abusive spouses, no babies wondering who in the world their fathers were, no infanticide for convenience. Isn't it awful of God to want that kind of world for us? :oP

Answer 10

This is just my opinion, so please don't get offended.

I am a very spiritual person. I have a 5 year old son who is growing up in this crazy messed up world with all kinds of negativity and courptness around him. We teach him right from wrong and we teach him that a man is supposed to be with a woman and vise versa. He knows that the spirit of being gay is not the way God intended because it is a negative spirt that has taken over the natural element of that persons being and spirit. We teach him to pray for gay people so that the negative spirt will leave their bodies so that they can return to the way God intended them to be in nature, and that is a man being with a woman and a woman being with a man.

So with that in mind, if we legalize marriage between gays, it would have a negative effect on our youth because our children would think that it is ok to be this way and a lot of us feel its not right. You have to draw the line somewhere and the buck stops here with marriage...Marriage is an extreemly sacred and Godly ceramony that should be between a man and a woman because that is what God intended it to be in nature. You don't see two male dogs getting intimate with each other, or two female horses getting down with each other. The other animals naturally pro create with the opposite sex. So why are we as humans doing this?

If being gay was right, why aren't we all gay? That is because I feel God intended on a man to be with a woman and a woman to be with a man so we can pro-create. If we didn't pro-create, we would eventually all be extinct. So how is being gay ok?

So to answer your questions
1- The definition should not change because that is what God intended to be, marriage between a man and a woman.
2-The tradition does matter because it is sacred.
3-I care because I have a child to think about and I don't want my son growing up thinking its right when its not according to my beliefs.
4-It would effect my child
5-Again, it effects my child and his way of thinking and anything that effects him is my business.
6-Marriage should be recognized by both the church (for spritual reasons) and the state (for legal reasons).