is this the Evangelical Christian view on Jews and Israel?

Question

tell me if I have got this correct Christians are supposed to support the Jews and the state of Israel because they are the chosen people.

yet many Christians also believe that if you do not accept Jesus as your savior you will burn in hell for all eternity.

Even further to prevent the Jews from burning in hell Christians are encouraged to convert them to Christianity. This though will cause the Jews to be assimilated among the rest of the world and within a few generations their will be no more Jews aka chosen people.

To me this seems a little contradictory and strange. If I am wrong in my thinking please someone correct.

randy even if you want to ague that if a Jew accpets Christiany that he is still Jewish. In 3 gennerations his kids wont.

you cannot have a population of 14 million mix will 1 billion and expect it to remain intact.

- do you honestly think that their would be a Jews for Jesus if their were no more Jews to convert?

oh and why arn't their any Buddaists for Jesus groups?

Answer 1

See Links!

http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs982a.html

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All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

Answer 2

You're missing the point. Israel was established by Christians (Lloyd George and Balfour), and is now supported by American evangelicals in hopes that judgement day can be triggered. Remember that Jesus is the king of the Jews, but only the saviour of the Christians. When the tribes of Israel return to Palestine (that is what the region is called) then Judgement day can come. Jesus will return, half the Jews will be converted while the other half will be killed, and a glorious war will be fought against the infidels and non-believers and those under Satan's power. American and other western Christian support for Israel is based entirely on a hope for successfully wiping the Jews out. This was a well documented reason why noted anti-semites pushed so hard to create Israel, and why the more thoughtful Jews thought that Zionism and the state of Israel were a really bad idea. (British politics in the early 20th Century sure were fun)

Answer 3

My gut reaction is in basic terms alleviation and satisfaction that any team of folk help Israel. Israel gets an extremely undesirable press. No u . s . is acceptable, and this is composed of the Jewish state. yet on the comparable time, there are worldwide places in this worldwide that behave plenty extra badly and aggressively than Israel, with out receiving a fragment of the condemnation. So when I hear all people conversing nicely of Israel, i think i'm in basic terms happy! although i do no longer in all risk like it too plenty whilst some - no longer all - evangelical Christians then start up waxing lyrical approximately how/whilst/the place/why/if we Jews would be 'saved' etc etc etc...

Answer 4

No, you got it wrong.

Besides, if Jews convert to Christianity, why wouldn't they still be Jewish? An Egyptian Christian (Coptic) is still an Egyptian.

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Actually the Apostle Paul seems to imply that the bulk of the Jewish people will not convert to Christianity until the second coming (Romans chapter 11). And John seemed to state in Revelations that 144k Jews will convert to Christianity during the reign of the Anti-Christ (Rev. chapter 7). Since these events come just prior to the end of the world, there shouldn't be any future generations to worry about.

There are several Old Testament & New Testament prophecies that imply that the Jews have to be returned to their traditional homeland before the Messiah can return (and also rebuild Solomon's Temple, depending on whose interpretation you buy into).

So, supporting Israel hastens the return of Jesus (also depending on whose interpretation you buy into).

Besides, God pronounced a curse on whomever curses Abraham, and pronounced a blessing on whomever blessed Abraham. So we support Abraham's children because we consider ourselves to be Abraham's children too (Romans 4).

And Christians also support Israel for sentimental reasons -- they suffered during WWI, they seem to be outnumbered, and don't forget that radical Islam would turn on the Christian West next if Israel were to disappear tomorrow.

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Actually, there are groups which specifically target Buddhists or Hindus (usually founded by former Buddhists or former Hindus). See the third link, for an example. Ravi Zacharias is an Canadian educated Indian who used to be Hindu.

PS: Some of these former Buddhists on the web are bitter, and their websites are horrible, so I will not show you those.

Answer 5

I haven't read any of the other answers, as I didn't want information or misinformation to taint what I have to say.

I have heard, and I certainly couldn't say if it were true or not, that one of the reasons that Evangelical Christians support the state of Israel is because the Jews back in Jerusalem help fulfill one of their "prophecies" that need to happen before Jesus comes back.

Answer 6

it depends on which definition of evangelical you're using. there are many conservative christians who believe christians are jews in spirit and that physical jews are not (& so they don't necessarily support israel). i don't think they would call themselves evangelical, however.

on the other hand, there are those christians who support israel no matter what. they believe it is God's will for them to eventually be restored to their former borders back under the reign of King David. these christians want to help bring that about. this is separated from the fact that non-christian jews are destined for an eternity in hell unless they accept Christ. i think they believe eventually the state of israel will turn to Christ.

Answer 7

More intelligent Christians, who have actually read the Bible themselves, understand that Jews have their own unique relationship with God.

That the covenant God made with the Jews is eternal and unchanging, as is stated over and over and over very clearly throughout the Hebrew Bible.

Check out Pastor John Hagee on this subject.

It's called Duel Covenant Theology.

Answer 8

Maybe this will help you understand things a little better. Here's how Paul explains it in the letter to the Romans. (Remember that Paul was also a Jew).

Romans 11

1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, 3 “LORD, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?[a] 4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”[b] 5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace.[c] But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 Just as it is written:


“ God has given them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes that they should not see
And ears that they should not hear,
To this very day.”[d]

9 And David says:


“ Let their table become a snare and a trap,
A stumbling block and a recompense to them.
10 Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see,
And bow down their back always.”[e]

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. 12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. 15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, 18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.
19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” 20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. 22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness,[f] if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved,[g] as it is written:


“ The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”[h]

28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!
34 “ For who has known the mind of the LORD?
Or who has become His counselor?”[i]
35 “ Or who has first given to Him
And it shall be repaid to him?”[j]

36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

As for the assimilation, I don't see how anyone could become less Jewish by believing in the Jewish Messiah. Once again it all boils down to the question whether Jesus is the Messiah, promised to the Jews or not.
It seems to me, that the only reason why most Jews reject Jesus though, is because the Gentiles have accepted him as their saviour. I don't see why he can't be both? Didn't God promise Abraham, that through his seed, all the nations of the world would be blessed??

Answer 9

To get you started go to

http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/chosen.htm
http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.showResource/CT/ACCC/k/875