Can the Christians Explain this verse to me!?

Question

Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

Oh, there's more!!!

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

Compare all this to the Glorious Quran:

"Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them." (Al-Hajj 39)

Case Closed.

Answer 1

Christians look to the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus for their morality. You are very poorly educated. Your quarrel is with the Jews who wrote Isaiah...THOUSANDS of years ago. Pull your head out of the stone age.

By the way, you have been reported for abusing this forum. You are not asking questions, you are giving statements that glorify your own religion while attacking another.

Also, "Allah" doesn't seem to be assisting many Muslims who are fighting Israel and the United States. What does that tell you? Perhaps "Allah" is punishing Muslims who follow the Hadiths instead of the Qur'an?

Case Closed.

Answer 2

Read the whole chapter, not just a few versus. That will answer your question. Taking a few versus out of any chapter and twisting it to fit what you think isn't right, it happens a lot, but that doesn't make it right.

With Isaiah, all his writings were done in symbolism and rheteric. To understand Isaiah at all is hard, but to take a few versus out of a whole chapter from Isaiah is even harder to understand.

This chapter is talking about the Medes, and also about the second coming. The chapter heading says this... Destruction of Babylon is a type of destruction at Second Coming—It shall be a day of wrath and vengeance—Babylon (the world) shall fall forever. WIth the Medes, they overthrew Babylon just like Isaiah said.

Case closed, as you say.

Answer 3

For one, this chapter is just a vision
Isaiah 13:1
1 An oracle concerning Babylon that Isaiah son of Amoz saw:


It also gives reasons for the destruction.
Isaiah 13:11,13,19
11 I will punish the world for its evil,
the wicked for their sins.
I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty
and will humble the pride of the ruthless.

13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble;
and the earth will shake from its place
at the wrath of the LORD Almighty,
in the day of his burning anger.

19 Babylon, the jewel of kingdoms,
the glory of the Babylonians' [b] pride,
will be overthrown by God
like Sodom and Gomorrah.

This chapter is also a prophecy

It is punishment for Babylon because of their HORRIBLE sinfulness. They were doing a lot of bad stuff that God didn't like. God is our creator and if he doesn't like it then he can remove. If you draw a picture and later you realize that one part is horrible you just erase it.

Try finding a contradtiction not taken out of context next time please.

Answer 4

You are taking this passage out of context. Isaiah chapter 13 is a prophecy about Cyrus the Mede overthrowing the ancient city of Babylon, which was steeped in sin and corruption and the practices of detestable things in God's eyes. They would sacrifice their children alive on altars for false gods, they were immoral and disgusting people. They put themselves above the true God and treated his people, the Israelites, with contempt. The passage you quoted foretold what the Medes would do to the people of Babylon, and it happened exactly that way in 607 B.C.E.

Answer 5

These verses are not meant to be used for us today as a way to do things. if you read the whole chapter that you quote from you will see that it is a historical reference. It is the prophecy that was given to Isaiah son of Azmov was given by God concerning Babylon that later came to fruition. This verse isn't saying that it is ok to rape and murder or that it ever has been ok to rape and murder. What it speaks of are the conditions of things at the time it was written.

Before you quote a verse you may want to take the neccessary precautions before hand that require you to fully understand the verse. Try reading the verses prior to and after that which you quote to get a better understanding of the context to which the verse was used before you put it out there and make blind assumptions of its meanings.

Answer 6

This scripture is a vision or prophecy Isaiah had for the consequences that Babylon would have to suffer. Babylon was located in Iraq.

I believe Iraq is suffering these things even today. It is awful what the consequences can be for disobedience to God and for blaspheming the Holy Spirit. But God keeps all of his promises. Just like any other loving Father----he even disciplines his children.

Isaiah 13 WEB
1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz saw:

2 Set up a banner on the bare mountain! Lift up your voice to them! Wave your hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.

3 I have commanded my consecrated ones; yes, I have called my mighty men for my anger, even my proudly exulting ones.

4 The noise of a multitude is in the mountains, as of a great people; the noise of an uproar of the kingdoms of the nations gathered together! Yahweh of Armies is mustering the army for the battle.

5 They come from a far country, from the uttermost part of heaven, even Yahweh, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

6 Wail; for the day of Yahweh is at hand! It will come as destruction from the Almighty.

7 Therefore all hands will be feeble, and everyone's heart will melt.

8 They will be dismayed. Pangs and sorrows will seize them. They will be in pain like a woman in labor. They will look in amazement one at another. Their faces will be faces of flame.

9 Behold, the day of Yahweh comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger; to make the land a desolation, and to destroy its sinners out of it.

10 For the stars of the sky and its constellations will not give their light. The sun will be darkened in its going forth, and the moon will not cause its light to shine.

11 I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity. I will cause the arrogance of the proud to cease, and will humble the haughtiness of the terrible.

12 I will make people more rare than fine gold, even a person than the pure gold of Ophir.

13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, and the earth will be shaken out of its place in the wrath of Yahweh of Armies, and in the day of his fierce anger.

14 It will happen that like a a hunted gazelle, and like sheep that no one gathers, they will each turn to their own people, and will each flee to their own land.

15 Everyone who is found will be thrust through. Everyone who is captured will fall by the sword.

16 Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, who will not value silver, and as for gold, they will not delight in it.

18 Their bows will dash the young men in pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb. Their eyes will not spare children.

19 Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldeans' pride, will be like when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It will never be inhabited, neither will it be lived in from generation to generation. The Arabian will not pitch a tent there, neither will shepherds make their flocks lie down there.

21 But wild animals of the desert will lie there, and their houses will be full of jackals. Ostriches will dwell there, and wild goats will frolic there.

22 Wolves will cry in their castles, and jackals in the pleasant palaces. Her time is near to come, and her days will not be prolonged.

Answer 7

This was a small piece of the Book of Isaias. Isaias was a prophet, who while in excile, foretold of the overthrow of the Assyrian army on the mountains of Juda. This was known as the 'burden of Babylon'. That's what the passage is about.

Did you think it was the words of the Christian GOD? How ignorant. But your ignorance is expected, especially for a rag reader such as yourself. Now don't you have a plane to fly into a building in the name of Allah or something?

buh-bye!

Answer 8

A lot of the people who wrote the Bible thought that the bad things happening to them (Babylon, etc.) were because of Jew marrying foreigners, so a lot of the prophets wrote about how evil all those damned foreigners were. That's why so many of the prophetic books are full of racism. It's also why most people don't bother reading most of those books.

Answer 9

Yes it is the coming of the Lord and He will destroy wicked and evil people- ya know the ones that want to rape your wife and children, steal from your home, scratch your car, kidnap your children to sell them as sex slaves in a kiddie porn. You mean you want those kind of people around us? Would you want that man to reproduce a baby to grow up just like him? If you read the scriptures about the evil and wicked hearted, think about what that means...

Answer 10

Okay, Isaiah is a prophet. God is not commanding this to happen. It just will. Everything is for God's glorification. And, unfortunately, Babylon deserved this wrath against them. God is just. Unfortunately, sometimes his wrath must be felt by those who purposely appose Him.
Ultimately, God will be glorified. He never denied that He is a jealous God.