Isn't¸ it true that reincarnation used to be accepted by Chatolic church?But they chaned it some time in 15 c

Question

I am Chatolic(just telling cause people think I am not because asking provocative questions)

15 th century

Answer 1

I agree that reincarnation was in the original teachings of Christianity and references to it was removed by the council in Constantinople in 545 BCE when the teachings of Origen were declared heritical. Some references remain in the bible, see below.

And the disciples asked him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?"

But he answered them and said, "Elijah indeed is to come and will restore all things. But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also shall the Son of Man suffer at their hand."
Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist." (Matt. 17:10-13)

This is the one ... there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist ... And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. He who has ears, let him hear. (Matt. 11:11-15)

When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"

They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets." (Matt. 16:13-14)

And as he was passing by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who has sinned, this man or his parents, that he should be born blind?"

Jesus answered, "Neither has this man sinned, nor his parents, but the works of God were to be made manifest in him.'" (John 9:1-3)

When this same blind man was brought before the Pharisees, they rejected the blind man's testimony because they believed he sinned before he was even born:

The disciples asked Jesus if the man committed a sin that caused him to be born blind. Given the fact that the man was blind since birth, this is an unusual question to ask unless pre-existence and reincarnation were a fact. How can a man sin before he is even born? The only conceivable answer to this question is a sin that was committed in a past life. And although Jesus stated that the reason the man was born blind was to manifest the works of God and not because of sin, this does not logically imply that everyone who is born in unfavorable circumstances are not born that way because of sin from a past life; unless you believe that all people who are born blind are born that way for the purpose of manifesting the work of God. Just the fact that this blind man and his circumstances are described in the Bible may be what Jesus was referring to concerning his manifesting the works of God.

You were born entirely in sins, and are you teaching us? (John 9:34 NAS)

This shows that even the Pharisees believed is possible to sin before you are born and this implies pre-existence and reincarnation.

The following Bible verse also supports pre-existence.

Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me. (Psalm 51:5)

Unless pre-existence and reincarnation are true, the above Bible verse is completely absurd.
He who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it." (Rev. 3:12)

This is a clear statement affirming the pre-existence of the soul and its corresponding concept - reincarnation. The assumption here is that people who do not overcome the world will have to leave this heavenly temple and return to earth.

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did."" (Matt. 21:32)

In this passage Jesus described two different groups of people entering heaven at different times. This statement is a clear refutation of the resurrection of souls at the end of time. Resurrection assumes that everyone will enter heaven at the same time. Reincarnation assumes that everyone enters heaven at the moment of death. For this reason, the only way for these tax collectors and prostitutes can enter heaven before the Pharisees is through the process of reincarnation.

I tell you a truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." (John 3:3)

Jesus affirms that the way to heaven is through spiritual regeneration by the Holy Spirit. Although Nicodemus knew how people are reborn into the world through reincarnation, he couldn't understand how people are reborn into the kingdom of God through reincarnation. This confusion becomes apparent with Nicodemus' next statement:

"How can a person be born when he is old? Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" (John 3:4)

Nicodemus was confused about Jesus' use of the phrase "born again" when not used to describe physical rebirth (i.e., reincarnation). As an intelligent Pharisee, he was well aware that souls come from a past life to be born as babies. But he couldn't understand how a soul can get to heaven through physical rebirth. Because of this, Jesus explained to him the difference between physical rebirth and spiritual rebirth:

I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit." (John 3:5-6)

Jesus defined for Nicodemus the difference between physical rebirth (i.e., bodily reincarnation, "born of water") as all babies are born; and spiritual rebirth (i.e., spiritual resurrection, "born of the Spirit" ). Jesus explains even further:

"You should not be surprised at my saying, "You must be born again." The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." (John 3:7-8)

Jesus stated that it is not known where the spirit (represented by the metaphor of the wind) came from when it comes to reincarnation. Jesus then affirms that it is the same way with spiritual rebirth; that is, nobody knows where the Holy Spirit comes from or where it goes.

“We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death.” (1 John 3:14

I tell you a truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." (John 3:3)

Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection." (Heb. 11:32-35)

The above passage describes women receiving their dead through reincarnation which is the only method this can happen. Bodily resurrection can only happen through a miracle or at the end of time on Judgment Day according to the Persian concept of resurrection. But because this passage refers to an event in the past, then this cannot be a reference to a future "Judgment Day" when corpses crawl out of graves. The passage also mentions people refusing to die so they can live longer to do good works and obtain more favorable conditions in the next life.

Another Old Testament verse describes this cycle of nature:

"Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever. The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. The wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course. All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the streams come from, there they return again ... What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." (Eccl. 1:4-9)

Though they dig down to the depths of the grave, from there my hand will take them. Though they climb up to the heavens, from there I will bring them down." (Amos 9:2)

“And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me."” (Matt. 18:3-5)

"See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.” (Matt. 18:10)

Jesus' teaching about people becoming like children could be a reference to reincarnation. As for children having "angels in heaven," this is a good metaphor for the souls of children in heaven - an impossibility if bodily resurrection ("soul sleep") was a fact.

When Jesus equates humans with "the angels in heaven" he may have been expressing a concept that was well-known in his day and which could be found in Hebrew scriptures (i.e., the Book of Enoch). This book describes the pre-existence of the human soul as an angel that fell from heaven long ago. In the Old Testament, Jacob had a dream of a heavenly "ladder" on the earth that extended into heaven with angels ascending and descending on it.

"And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven; and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it." (Gen. 28:12)

This vision of a passageway from earth to heaven appears in many near-death experiences and has been described as a tunnel, a cylinder, a funnel, a tube, a vortex, and other descriptions. In near-death experiences, it is the souls of humans that can be seen ascending and descending through this passageway. Here is an example:

"I saw spirits going to and from the earth and the city [in the heavens]. I could tell the development of the spirits going to and from by the energy they emanated. I could see that animals came to and from earth just like humans do. I could see many spirits leave earth with guides and could see spirits returning to earth without guides. The being told me that some of the spirits passing were the ones that were doing the work with humans on earth. I could make out the type of spirits that were doing the work and the spirits that were coming to the great city to become replenished to eventually go back to earth to experience and further evolve. I could feel the emotions of the ones coming back for replenishment. I could feel that some of them were sad, beaten and scared, much like I felt before my being came to me." (David Oakford)

In both Jacob's dream and David Oakford's near-death experience, spirits can be seen ascending up the ladder and then descending the ladder for reincarnation. Because the traditional concept of resurrection involves the soul sleeping until the time of the end and not being active, the conclusion is that bodily resurrection is false because it is refuted by the Book of Enoch, Jacob's dream of a passageway where souls return and leave heaven, the teachings of Jesus, and the multitude of near-death experiences that prove the soul journeys to heaven and returns to reincarnate.

Answer 2

The church MAY have accepted it. But if the church did reject it as a doctrine, it was just as well, because reincarnation does not fit in with the teachings of Christ and the New Testament.

"Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgement, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people..." (Hebrews 9:27-28.)

See the link I pasted as a source. The writer of this piece asserts that the Catholic church never accepted reincarnation.

Ciao, Jack

Answer 3

Buddhism is a pretend faith. there is not any such ingredient as Reincarnation. It purely does no longer take position and that is not any longer the which technique of existence. you aren't to any extent further reborn into something else like a cow, a canines or a tree or somebody else. it is purely rediculous and it isn't what the genuine residing God has in save for people.

Answer 4

Reincarnation was NEVER accepted by the Catholic church, as it goes against all the old and new testament scriptures.

There were and are all sorts of heresies in the world, some of them promoted by people who profess to be Catholic, but these people cannot speak for the church.

The church has the power to change disciplines, like whether priests can marry, or whether we can eat meat on Fridays, but basic truths of the faith (dogmas) can never change.

Answer 5

Not sure about this, however, I know the Catholic Church is know for changing beliefs. Just like Priest used to be able to marry, until the church discovered that when these priest died they were loosing money because it went to the Priest family. After that...Priest were not allowed to marry.

So if somehow throwing away the reincarnation belief benefited their $$$$ I'm don't doubt it.

Answer 6

I've taken 2 semesters of Church history, and have heard nothing of this. I have read several of the church fathers, and have heard not even a hint of this. Several other doctrines have changed over time in the Catholic church, but this is not one of them.

Answer 7

No.Not true. Lot's of people enjoy making up horrible stories about Catholics, but don't trust them. Perhaps one day Christians will finally listen to Christ when he said that his people should be unified.

God bless!

Answer 8

I don't know if that's true or not, but it is implied in the story where Jesus reappears after death and is not recognized by his physical appearance.

Answer 9

absolutely