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To be Christian, you set yourself at higher values. To act with the Lord's love, and peace, as with man, and to not fall prey to the sinful life others lead, you have to dedicate yourself to following God, not the life of sin and worldly values.
In this, how can it be justified, that a gay can call himself a christian, when living as gay, is an abomination in it's own right?
A lot of the replies i've seen, ask for where Jesus condemned it....but if you also know the Bible, the Ten Commandments came from the OT as well.
I'm looking for something that will counteract religous value, beyond doubt...and something that I can't refute.
Oh, and read, that Jesus did say, Go, and Sin no more.
Kinda blunt, but it's cut and dried....if you are to follow the Lord, you're changing your life....not just your clothes, your house, or your habits....everything will change, inside, out and perspective.
If you still have the courage, tell me how one can be gay, and still be christian.

2006-07-25 15:38:06 · 23 answers · asked by steveraven 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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there is no room in heaven for sinners and to be gay.....to love another man as gay people do is against GOD. you can love the LORD but you also need to know that you can pray and ask GOD to help you to stop this.we have a HOLY GOD and this will not be excepted in heaven. you were not born this way and if you think you were get reborn again and then you don't have to be this way. how much do you love our LORD????????????then feed HIS sheep...do you love me?????then feed my sheep. how much do you love our LORD? people say they don't believe in the bible but that is another lie from satan who has their eyes covered and in our hearts we know that there is a HOLY GOD and He loves you and wants you to change for HIM it is required from HIM to do as the bible says to do. you will not be able to get into heaven..whats more important to you Jesus or being gay? feed my sheep.................love Suzi

2006-07-25 16:19:08 · answer #1 · answered by Jesus freak 2 · 19 19

Just because a person is a Christian, doesn't mean they are perfect, or "sinless." If being gay is a sin, how is that different from any other sin? Isn't any sin an abomination to God? What about Christians who eat too much (greed, gluttony) or Christians who swear, or are greedy, or have lustful thoughts? If anyone claims to be without sin, that person is a liar.Why is it ok for Christians to only point out the "obvious sin" of another person while harboring their own "secret sin" that isn't so obvious? I am a Christian, I am not gay, but I DO NOT JUDGE! That's God's job. My job is to act justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with God. I need to take care of the log in my own eye before worrying about the speck of sawdust in someone else's eye.

2006-07-25 15:45:51 · answer #2 · answered by Redbird 2 · 0 0

It depends on if the person has just accepted Christ or if they claim to be walking a long time and yet continue in this sin!

The new Christian has many obstacles to overcome and in God's good time the sin of homosexuality will cease in this persons life!

On the other hand, a person may have accepted Jesus but the cares of this world have choked the good Word but this person continues to play the game and has deceived themselves into believing that they are still a Christian and it is okay with God if they continue in this sin!

You cannot claim to be a Christian and still committ the sin of homosexuality!

2006-07-25 15:53:26 · answer #3 · answered by zoril 7 · 0 0

One can't be a homosexual & a christian. Only because to become a christian one has to acknowlege and confess one is a sinner needing Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the world. To confess Jesus Christ one's Lord (commitment) & believe in ones heart He is the atonement for one's sins & He rose from the dead.

After that there is a heart change. His blood washes away all our sins. The old man is dead & the new man in Christ is alive. A new creation in Christ Jesus.

When a homosexual gets born again, He is forgiven much & therefor loves God much. God also heals Him/Her from so many hurts & wrong thinking associated with past sins.

That baby christian obeys God by renewing ones mind in the Word of God. Being filled with the Holy Spirit who leads into all truth & is not a liar. Being renewed in the Spirit from time to time.

Of course salvation is provided for all sinners in addition to homosexuals.

2006-07-25 15:52:32 · answer #4 · answered by t_a_m_i_l 6 · 0 0

I think the only way you can be gay and be a christian is if you are practicing abstinence. Anyone who is single is called to abstain from sexual relationships.

Christians do sin, therefore, Christians have to try to change bad habits. Christians are not perfect, just forgiven. I think continuing to live a gay lifestyle would be living in sin, therefore needing change. But can God forgive gays? Of course.

2006-07-25 15:48:07 · answer #5 · answered by mar 4 · 0 0

The anti-gay stuff in the OT was put in there by the Jewish tribe because it wanted to increase its numbers (therefore, endorse procreative sex) and to distinguish themselves from others (others engaged in various practices). The Leviticus section also says that wearing clothes of 2 different weaves or planting crops of 2 different seeds is a mortal sin; we can't have the anti-gay stuff without the anti-clothes-type-wearing stuff. In the NT, the anti-gay passages are from Saul of Tarsus (Paul) in various letters; we're leaving our judgment to ONE guy was conditioned by a culture that was already anti-gay? Uncondtional Love is NOT the ego god that most have projected and believe in. All the judgments and sin, guilt, and hell stuff found in the bible are what's in people's minds and projected outward and made to be part of god. It's EXACTLY what the 'good' son in the Prodigal Son parable did: he didn't like the unconditional love, non-judgment, no special reward nature of God and, therefore, like the modern-day believer makes god into his own image, demanding that he behave accordingly. For a good book on Christianity and homosexuality, read 'On Being Gay' by Brian McNaught.

2006-07-25 15:47:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You can't be gay and be a true Christian. Some gay people claim to be a Christian but they are still going to hell because according to the Bible, being gay is a sin and you can't get to heaven if you're constantly living a sinful lifestyle. You can turn back straight and ask God to forgive you but you can't die gay and expect to get through those pearly gates.

2006-07-25 15:43:29 · answer #7 · answered by KcEdmunds 2 · 0 0

I am a Christ follower myself. I will provide you the sincere reply. And it's the fact. The Lord has made us for the opposite intercourse. If you're christian, you will have heard of Adam and Eve. Remember - God made it that means, on the grounds that for one its the proper means - it is his means. He did not make it Adam and Evan. Of direction, anybody inclined on the planet can serve God! He won't refuse anybody! But you must seem on the huge photograph right here k. Of direction God needs us to have a dedicated and significant courting with him, however there may be most effective that a method, and it is not our means - however his means. We are not able to difference it up. You see what I imply? For us to have a committed courting with the Lord Christ, we have got to comply with what he says and what he needs for us. And he states all of it within the publication of existence - The Holy Bible. God will constantly love someone, it doesn't matter what despite the fact that. Honestly, in case your happening this unsuitable course, pray. God intends for a person & a females to mate. Then they have got infants. Then all over the place once more. That's the existence he made for us. This is not anything devout and has not anything to do with being any distinctive means. My recommendation is, while you comply with the Lord, comply with him the entire means via!

2016-08-28 17:53:45 · answer #8 · answered by gombos 4 · 0 0

Sure.

Christian means Christ follower.

There are just over 1400 Christian denominations and non-denominational groups (a rose by any other name...).

Many of those groups do NOT agree that there is anything wrong with homosexuality, but accept homosexuals just as they are, and do not regard homosexuality as sin. (Examples would include the United Church of Christ, as well as the Brethern, the Unity Community of Christ, the Old Catholics, and so forth).

Many others are not 100%, but have a vast majority of their members and clergy who believe that homosexuality is fine. (Examples would the Protestant Episcopal Church in the US, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, and on and on.)

Still others are deeply divided, with roughly even numbers on both sides of the issues (United Presbyterians, New England Congregational and Dutch Reform are good examples).

So the simple answer is that if one is an active member of one of these churches or congregations and believes that Jesus Christ is the son of God (I for example am Episcopalian from a progressive parish with a history of fighting the isms that stretches back many years) -- you can clearly be a Christian and gay.

But of course, what you really want is NOT a factual answer -- oh, I've included some web links in the source section to back up what I've said -- but it isn't what you want.

What you want is a theological argument -- which you expect to win because you are sure that the Bible is the center of the Christian faith and you are sure that it supports you.

I'm going to ask right now that if you don't want your version of the faith challenged, you don't go any further. Stop reading now please. I have no wish to upset you -- but you did ask.

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You have confused two religions. You have confused Christianity (following Christ) with Biblio-idolatry (following the Bible). The two things aren't even related. (All references to follow are from the KJV of the Bible -- as the newer versions add additional "translations" that have NO HISTORICAL SUPPORT AT ALL, even in the over 5000 fragments we have)

I believe what the Bible says about homosexuality exactly as much as I believe what it says about planting seed together and about wearing clothing of mixed fabric [Leviticus 19:19]. I accept that the Bible is correct about being gay in exactly the same way that I accept what it says about committing genocide in god's name [Joshua 10:40-42 and Joshua 11: 18-23]; about god accepting a human sacrifice [Judges 11:30-39]; about a successful land sacrifice (looking EXACTLY like the land sacrifices being offered by other pagan kingdoms) [II Samuel 21] and about god causing cannibalism among the people [Deuteronomy 28: 53-59].

The Bible is a book full of historical errors [We now know that Jericho was abandoned for hundreds of years before the story of its seizure by the Israelites, additionally, we know that it was NEVER walled. The battle of Jericho never took place therefore], biological errors [Leviticus 11: 21-23 -- locusts have six feet of course], and mathematical errors [Numbers 3:16-39 -- add them up yourself, 300 more than the Bible totals the numbers to].

So the short answer is no, I don't believe what the Bible says -- about homosexuality or anything else. The earth does not sit on pillars [I Samuel 2:8] nor is it established atop the waters [Psalms 24:1-2]. It does not have corners [Isaiah 11:12], nor do there exist treasuries of the air -- though that is not an uncommon thought in the days that the bible was written [Psalm 135:7].

But of course, the Bible has little to do with historical Christianity (the canon of books was not established until after the Council of Nicea and not finalized until the Council of Carthage in nearly 400 AD). Christianity is all about following CHRIST, the Lord of Love, not about following a book. Therefore, no Christian who loves Jesus Christ needs worry about what a bronze age book of myths says about anything. It didn't exist in a recognizable form until almost 400 as mentioned above, it has been translated out of all relevance to its originals (200,000 differences between the fragments we have is the LEAST reached in an estimate by Bible scholars -- see Bart Ehrman; Misquoting Jesus; Harper SanFrancisco -- if you doubt me ) There are no "autographs of the Bible" and if there ever were, they've been missing for thousands of years -- what we have are translations of copies of copies of translations of copies (quite often of translations, just to add another layer). They are factually challenged and consistently in error of every kind. The Christian faith is one of love, of Eucharist and of embracing Christ as savior -- that's all. The legalities of the Bible are a different religion -- and one you are welcome to.

Kind regards,

Reynolds
Schenectady, NY -- USA
http;//www.rebuff.org
believeinyou24@yahoo.com

2006-07-25 16:09:07 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

DID YOU KNOW RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS? SCARY ISN'T IT, JESUS HIMSELF WAS AGAINST RELIGION, RELIGION IS MAN MADE, BUT FAITH THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER MONSTER. TO BE A CHRISTIAN MEANS TO BE CHRIST LIKE. YOU SAY HOW CAN YOU BE CHRIST LIKE IF YOUR GAY? GOOD QUESTION, WE AS CHRISTIAN'S ARE ALWAYS WORKING TO PERFECT OURSELVES, ARE WE ALL PERFECT? NO AND NEITHER IS SOME ONE THAT IS GAY. IT MAY TAKE THEM A LIFE TIME TO STOP BEING GAY THAT'S UNTIL DEATH. BUT DOES THAT MEAN THEY SHOULDN'T LOVE GOD. WHAT ABOUT FORNICATERS, OR ADULTERERS, OR MURDERS SHOULD THEY NOT BE CHRISTIANS? ON TOP OF THAT JESUS SAID GO AND SIN BUT BEFORE HE SAID THAT HE SAID YE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. NO SIN IS GREATER THEN ANOTHER NO MATTER HOW YOU PUT. GOD IS THE JUDGE OF THEM ALL. I THANK GOD, IT'S NOT YOU.

2006-07-25 15:56:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

first, i will tell you that i am not gay, but i am a christian. i also don't think that homosexuality is right.
jesus did say go & sin no more - so, are you sinless? i sure am not. i might not be gay, but i am critical, sometimes i gossip, i have idols (wasting my time on the internet...), i sometimes do not respect my husband, and lots more. the bible also tells us that sin is sin, one sin is not worse than another. therefore, my brother, do not examine the speck in your neighbor's eye when there is a plank in your own. that goes for me as well. :)

2006-07-25 15:46:57 · answer #11 · answered by erikajune6 2 · 0 0

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