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How does a Cross standing on the side of a hill, or a stone monument of the ten commandments in front of a court house or the simple prayer of a person who believes force anyones opinion down your throat?
I mean I see billboards that support Athiest views all the time and My children are taught things that I feel are wrong and have not been proven and Hear people cursing and talking about things all the time that I disagree with nor want to hear. so how does it differ? please explain because I am lost on the point.
I think if you were all honest then you would say that you just want to do away with any religion period. You manipulate the laws that were designed to allow me to worship to your side.
Am I wrong?

2006-07-25 15:26:45 · 20 answers · asked by melissa s 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

20 answers

Nope. You're correct. You knocked that one out of the park, sister.

Matthew 5:38-48

It's a tough row to hoe....

2006-07-25 15:34:11 · answer #1 · answered by NickofTyme 6 · 0 2

1. The fact is that politicians place their hands on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution, not the other way around. Having the commandments on a courthouse sends a message that only the religions of the Bible are respected within the walls. This places non-believers, pagans, Hindus, Buddhists, and every other faith in an awkward (to say the least) position. The truth is that this is not a Christian country. It is a melting pot. Having a cross on a hilltop in San Diego would not be a big deal if it were true that any group who so desired could erect a monument. However, we all know that this is not the case.

Fortunately there are people out there who recognize how dangerous a situation this is. Go to http://www.mybillofrights.org to find a group of people who are trying to erect small plaques of The Bill of Rights on every public ground where the ten commandments can be found. I feel that we have lost sight of the ideals that this country was founded on (they were not Christian ideals, by the way.)

2. What billboards do you see that support atheist views? How is it that your children are being taught things that you don't want them to be taught? I certainly hope that you are not referring to things like evolution. Even Pope John Paul II realized that evolution is the best explanation we have right now. By denying your children an education in the sciences you will cripple them when they reach working age. The countries who will be competing with us in the international job market in fifteen years are not settling for compromise and teaching pseudo-science in their schools. These countries are teaching critical-thinking skills that we are not. If the faithful love America as much as they claim to they need to start arming their children's brains for the reality of the future.

3. Would I like to "do away with religion period?" Frankly, I think that if there were no religion that the World Trade Center would still stand. Without religion I think that the middle-east would be a battlefield right not.

I certainly don't think that everything would be idyllic without faith, but I think that it is causing more problems than any other aspect of the human condition right now.

2006-07-25 22:49:51 · answer #2 · answered by wrathpuppet 6 · 0 0

Well, I've seen billboards, commercials, movie theatre ads, etc. supporting Jesus, So I guess that makes our sides equals. It's all free speech, and even though I find it annoying, and even sometimes inappropriate, I'll just have to deal with it. However, the Ten Commandments should never be placed on Federal property. Our (so-called) Christian forefathers put in separation of church and state in the First Amendment saying (I'm paraphrasing) that the government cannot put one religion above another. Because you, know, we have that "freedom of religion" thing, and the government cannot endorse a specific religion.

Since the Ten Commandments are specific to Judo-Christian beliefs (Don't know about Islam), having them on federal property would look like the United States government chooses Judiasm or Christianity as it's "official religion". This would negate "freedom of religion" because the people who were not of the "official religion" could and probably would be discriminated against (I mean even more so than normal.). So the US government takes away the problem of probable discrimination by not picking a State religion and letting people choose to believe what they want to and not choosing for them.

Daley Plaza in Chicago has an interesting solution. At Christmastime they erect a gigantic Christmas tree, they have a large manger with baby Jesus et al., Santa Claus, they have a large Mennorrah for Hannukah which they light for each day, and the Islamic Star and Crescent for Ramadan.

Oh, and people talk about things I disagree with and don't want to hear, too. It's called life. Some people are rude, some aren't. All you can do is teach your kids to be considerate of and respectful to others, because not all parents do that.

Also, those laws were also designed to allow me NOT to worship.

2006-07-25 23:20:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think the big issue is that the ten commandments were located on Government property. Since there is seperation of Church and State this violates that law. Also, if you put the ten commandments on Government property then you would also represent all religions in order to be non-biased. Now for the issue of a Cross on a stone mountain it would have to be again on Government property or it might also be the location. Many cities have laws that regulate the total height of any type of signs and the Cross may not fall within that guideline.
I don't think anyone wants to get rid of any religion but in the U.S. we value the right to worship any religion and not feel obligated to choose one because the government pushes a specific one.

2006-07-25 22:35:09 · answer #4 · answered by jason32ok 2 · 0 0

"a Cross standing on the side of a hill, or a stone monument of the ten commandments in front of a court house or the simple prayer of a person who believes force anyones opinion down your throat?" they dont force anything down your throat, but the whole ten commandments in a court house thing is the government advocating one specific religion and that should not be. i don't know why you would think the last one is a problem.

2006-07-25 22:33:58 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I guess it depends on the person. some people can be very strict on religion, such as my parents raised me Lutheran but not in a very strong way. They never made me go to church if i didn't want to go and they didn't care if some one was "manipulating" me into another belief as long as I was loyal to the person/god/thing or what ever i worshiped. Now some people would strongly disagree with raising a child into this world that way, but it actually helps you keep an open mind and lets you learn about other religions with out saying something like "ohh thats not right!!" I just think people should leave eachother alone about religion. I think people use religion card just so they can bicker about somthing.

2006-07-25 22:42:28 · answer #6 · answered by Human 3 · 0 0

The advancement of scientific technology demands a price too. The logic has far overtaken the intuition. It is this mis-match that manifests in strong growth of atheism. Nothing wrong really, but then experience would come the hard way. Children need to be given all the support, and care. They cannot be forced upon with 'beliefs' ! It is right to question and 'now' (the present day order of things), their 'right' too ! Obviously, we need to equip ourselves with a little more than the convenience of traditional beliefs, and HAVE to rise to the need of the hour, of giving the truth through logic ! Some redundant outdated concepts have to be modified to suit the present needs. Interpretations have to be purpose oriented. This needs a very deep understanding of religion, and not mere 'follow' the traditional 'prescriptions' and rest in comfort with that !

2006-07-25 22:39:35 · answer #7 · answered by Spiritualseeker 7 · 0 0

No your not. I think people want it bopth ways and you can't have that. If you want to belive in christ you may. People where offended by God in school so it was done away with. You can't please every body and you can't outcast every body nor should you outcast every body. the worst that could happen is we give up on our belives abd don't fight for the right to beline in our god and raise our children to do so. I can't tell you how many times my child has had to hear something rediculouse because people can't learn to keep ther mouth shut. It's not even about religion any more, it's about respecting other peoples right to happiness. All i want is to be able to take my daughter out for ice cream and to the park witnh out hearing someones music or some ones misguided idiocy. It's a lovely dream, beging able to raise our kids the way WE want.

2006-07-25 22:33:29 · answer #8 · answered by F.Duke 3 · 0 0

The only one of those things I see as immoral are the 10 commandments outside a courthouse. What is that supposed to tell me? That religious law and state law are the same now? These are my thoughts. Blessed be.

2006-07-25 22:34:14 · answer #9 · answered by Maria Isabel 5 · 0 0

Public space is jointly owned by you and me (among others). You believe in a god and I don't. The government is supposed to be for both of us, not just for the one who happens to share the beliefs of the majority.

BTW: "Atheist" billboards? I'm older than you (probably) and I've never seen such.

2006-07-26 07:41:15 · answer #10 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

IT DOSE NOT.
The quote of the month is by Jay Leno:
> >
> > With hurricanes, tornadoes, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding,
> > severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and
> > with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, "Are we sure this is a
> > good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?"

2006-07-25 22:32:13 · answer #11 · answered by His eyes are like flames 6 · 0 0

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