Can anyone prove the alledged miracles of Yeshua/ Jesus actually happened?

Question

I do mean beyond a shodow of a doubt proof.
And no, the Bible isn't proof, becaus it isn't fact.

Answer 1

Many scholars argue that miracles cannot be historically proven, and therefore are not falsifiable, and consequently discussion of them is inherently unscientific, and so does not belong in a discussion of any possible historical Jesus. The Jesus Seminar, a critical study by major theologians of what aspects of the Gospel accounts are likely to be factual, held that while the various cures for diseases are probably true, since there were many others in the ancient world credited with healing power, most of the other miracles of Jesus are unfactual, at least in their literal interpretation from the Bible.
The veracity of exorcisms carried out by Jesus is particularly questioned among critical scholars, as according to modern science there is no evidence whatsoever for demonic possession, while there is a large amount of evidence that what ancient peoples attributed to demonic forces were actually the result of psychological disturbances and mental illness.

Sometimes scientists speculate that the appearance of a miracle could have occurred, but that there is a naturalistic explanation for it. For example, a recent study has suggested that the miracle of Jesus walking on water could have been the result of a freak ice formation that is thought by climatologists to have occurred on the Sea of Galilee during that time. The miracles concerned with disease and disability that are mentioned by the Canonical Gospels include cures of the following:
Healing the blind has been argued to be a metaphor for people who previously could not, or would not, see the truth being shown it; healing the deaf has been interpreted as simply meaning that people who could not, or would not, listen to true teachings were made to; similarly, healing paralysis has been interpreted as an allegory for rectifying inaction; and healing leprosy for removing the societal stigmatism associated with certain stances. It has also been argued that bar-Timai is a direct reference to Plato's Timaeus, a literary work, and that bar-Timai symbolises the hellenic audience of Mark's gospel, and that curing his blindness is a metaphor for the Gospel giving a revelation to the audience. The events can be scientifically explained by arguing that Jesus had a high knowledge of herbalism, as was common amongst the teachers of many mystery religions, and aescetic groups like the essenes, and simply applied quite ordinary and scientific cures for the symptoms described. Though things like blindness and deafness may seem incurable without very modern medicine, it has been argued by scholars that it is not true blindness, deafness, etc., being referred to, but more easily curable illness such as conjunctivitis, and glue ear.
Belief in supernatural creatures was very common in first century palestine, especially due to certain preachings of the Pharisees. According to a literal reading of the Synoptic Gospels, Jesus was present at multiple examples of demonic possession, while these incidents are not mentioned whatsoever by the Gospel of John. Most modern scholars dismiss these as simply being cases of mental illness and afflictions such as epilepsy, which provides the same external symptoms without requiring the need for a supernatural force. Scientifically, while many of these cases have an uncertain explanations, due to the minimal description of the possessions themself, the possession of the man at Gerasenes could be explained as simply being a case of schizophrenia, while the possession of the boy, brought forward after the transfiguration, has symptoms more scientifically explainable by epilepsy. Critical scholars typically see these exorcisms of such illness as allegorical, representative of Jesus' teachings clearing even the most troubled mind. Some critical scholars, however, have suggested that the events could have been real, though with the scientific explanation of the illnesses, and that the cures given were really just psychological drugs that Jesus, like many others in the era, would have been aware of; for example, Sage and Mistletoe were used in early times to treat epilepsy, and Snakeroot was used to treat schizophrenia.
More cynical and critical interpretations point out that the exact literal Greek text states only that Jesus displayed the loaves and fish, and did not give them out, suggesting that the text is a slight of hand - that the scraps were donations for the meal of the disciples themselves, and the multitude fed themselves by some other means. The Transfiguration of Jesus; some modern scholars, together with the ancient gnostics, believe that the Synoptic Gospels were originally meant to be understood allegorically. The Catch of 153 fish can be explained as Jesus had more knowledge of the lake. Even modern times, if fisherman throughs his on one side he catches nothing, but if he throughs his net on the other side he gets a netful. Jesus ovisally knew this. In April 2006, scientists placed a controversial theory in which they claim that Jesus may have actually walked on thin ice rather than water. It is also possible to create the effect of walking on water, unassisted, by having the walker step onto an object that is submerged just below the surface of the water. A good example of this is Ron Barassi's involvement in the 2006 Queen's Baton Relay, where he traversed the Yarra River on a pontoon that was just beneath the water's surface.

It is also possible under certain circumstances to actually walk on water - by distributing the weight in such a way that surface tension isn't broken, there will be sufficient buoyancy to avoid sinking below the surface. In nature, certain animals, such as the Basilisk lizard, and Water strider insect, exploit the effect easily, having evolved into optimal body shapes and distributions for the task. There also exist pontoon-like shoes that humans can wear which so that they are also able to exploit the effect. so of course the "miracles" can be explained by science.

Answer 2

No, obviously there is no beyond a shadow of a doubt proof. Normally historians you a double or triple test to test the likelyhood of an event happening. If its documented a few times it almost assuredly happened. Studying the bible has converted many people in this way, but there is no video tape or anything.

Accounts of Roman history and what not are reviewed the same way. We don't say they never happened, it is only the miraculous nature of the Bible that prevents it from entering history. As I've pointed out before though, it is generally considered accurate, by most people.

This one isn't too bad.

http://www.orcofc.com/Articles/Establishing%20Jesus%20as%20a%20Person%20in%20History.doc

Answer 3

Why don't you do it? Why not set out to disprove the miracles? Josh McDowell, a famous lawyer did just that, and got saved in the process. He writes some excellent books about Jesus now. The words in the Scriptures are taken by we Christians by faith, some of us don't need to have every little thing "proven" to us, but many people in the Scriptures did. Many people kept asking Jesus to "prove" to them that He was who He said He was, even tho He had performed many miracles right in front of them.
"Blessed are those who believe and do not see." We are blessed because we believe and don't have to have all proven to us,this is called faith.

Answer 4

Well the miracles are referenced by non-believers such as Josephus a Jewish historian in the first century A.D. For more specific references I would suggest reading "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. You don't even have to pay for it, most public libraries have it or can borrow it from another one!

That is if you really are interested in finding out.

Answer 5

The bible is more reliable than all the evidence of Julias Cesar existing... bet you belive in him, dont you?

To be honest, its a question of faith. Personally, I belive the bible to be fact.

Answer 6

actually the red sea parting was proved by scientists. god gave moses the power to part it.
not everything can be proved cause we werent there at the time of the miracle.

Answer 7

About the only way a fact from 2000 years ago could be established would be by historical records of the events, or artifacts. History as preserved for us several accounts of the life and miracles of Jesus. Three accounts were written by people who knew him, travelled with him, and recorded his miracles. They are known as the gospels of Matthew, Mark and John.

Historically, they hold as much validity as any other records from that time period. For insteads, only 9 copies of Julius Caesar autobiography produced before 1000AD exist. The earliest of those date from 600AD. Its content is accepted as historical fact.

We have 5,300 copies of the writings of Matthew and John from the same time period. Both Matthew and Mark were already being quoted by 80AD, so they had to have existed at the time within 50 years of the time of Jesus. (John was not written until around 90AD) We have fragments from manuscripts as early as 90-95AD and complete copies from 140AD. So they have to have as much historical value as the writings of Julius Caesar.

The fourth gospel, Luke, was written by someone who did not know Jesus personally. Around 60-65AD, he travelled back to Israel and interviewed as many people as he could find about the events. Read the first five verses of his book, where he tells Theopolus (a Roman judge for whom he compiled to book) that he only included those events for which he could still find witnesses - such as the person actually healed. He list several healing miracles in his writing.

If you look beyond the Bible, you will find the writings of the Jewish historian Josepheus, who was NOT a Christian. He was a contemporary of Jesus, being in his early teens when Jesus died. He writes about both John the Baptist and Jesus as being real, historical people. And he says about Jesus:
Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works ((that's his miracle, people)), a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day

The Jewish Talmud, written in the 1st century, and obviously not a Christian wordk tells us: On the eve of Passover, Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery ((that's his miracles, people)) and enticed Israel to apostasy. Any one who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf." But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of Passover

So, historically, his disciples testify that He performed miracles. A scholar sent to investigate him spoke to the people who had been healed by him. A neutral historian records that he performed wonderous works. And his enemies who killed him testify to this miracles by sorcery.

No one alive today can see or now what happened 2000 years ago. The best we can do is look at the historical records. In the case of Jesus, they are overwhelming in favor of his miracles.

Answer 8

No. It can't even be proven the man existed by reasonable standards (let alone shadow of a doubt standards).

Answer 9

you seem to have convinced yourself already. but i would like to know why you think the bible isn't fact given the FACT that it has never once been proved wrong historically.

Answer 10

Can you prove they didn't? Would you really believe if some one did? I expect that the answer to both questions is no.