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Matthew 11
11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

As my understanding those scriptures were written while John was still alive.
What does it means "And from the days of John the Baptist until now "

Question: I am not interesting why violence was in such beautiful place like heaven i am interesting what is "until now" when John supposedly should still be alive.

2006-07-25 07:22:57 · 13 answers · asked by PicassoInActions 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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very well said and just another of the items that one ahs to read into

2006-07-25 07:28:03 · answer #1 · answered by likeskansas 5 · 0 0

Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and men of violence take it by force.
Mat 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
Mat 11:14 And if ye are willing to receive it, this is Elijah, that is to come.

Context is the biggest part of understanding what's going on in a lot of the Bible. If you look at all 3 of these verses carefully you see that Jesus says that John the Baptist is the prophet Elijah, that was said to come just prior to the coming of the Messiah. John was the very last of the Old Testement prophets.

From the time of the first prophets till the time of Jesus death (note that it says till NOW, not till the day John died) there was violence in Heaven caused by the rebellion of Satan and his demons. As soon as Jesus, a perfect man, died and paid for our sins, the war between God and Satan was finished.

Unfortunately, as with wars here on earth, the war may be over, but small battles may be fought for a long time after.

2006-07-25 14:36:41 · answer #2 · answered by David T 4 · 0 0

When reading the Bible you need to read in context of the whole so you need to read above and below the verse to understand it or you will end up with a very confused reality of what the Bible is saying.
In this section it is addressing the fact that Jesus (the Messiah) had arrived and it was a prediction that both John the Baptist (who came before the Messiah to announce his coming) and Jesus as well as all that followed him would suffer violence at the hands of the rulers of that day. These rulers were the Roman government and the Jewish scribes and Pharisees who were in power. The scribes and Pharisees were very versed and well knowledgable about the prophecies of the Messiah and who he would be so when Jesus came they knew. But they chose to embrace their wealth and popularity and had him crucified. The King also had John the Baptist behead because the queen hated him. He had preached against the sins of the royalty and the queen knew that the King lusted after her daughter so she used her daughter and the daughter requested that he give her John the Baptist's head on a platter. Jesus, John the Baptist and the early Christians as well as many others have died violent deaths since the time that John the Baptist was born.

2006-07-25 14:35:30 · answer #3 · answered by rltouhe 6 · 0 0

That verse was written by Matthew, not John. It is my understanding that the book of John is the scripture you are referring to. This book was not written by John the Baptist, but by John the Apostle, who is often referred to in the bible as the apostle that Jesus loved most. They are two separate people and many people often get them mixed up. If you look up scripture you will notice that John the Baptist actually died during the time Jesus was alive. He had his head chopped off by King Herod.

2006-07-25 14:41:12 · answer #4 · answered by Orrie 2 · 0 0

Oooops! You're just emphisizing the wrong word in your head.

According to canon law, John the Baptist was regarded as a prophet by Christianity, Islam and Mandaeanism. But he lived until King Herod, ruler of Palestine, had hid head cut off and served on a platter, as an engagement present to his fiancee Herodias (who BTW was already married to Herod's brother). And the Palistinian's wonder why Christians aren't all warm and snuggly to them! But I digress.

What Matthew was saying was, from the severed head platter until that moment in time. If Matthew knew the years he would have said something like "From 28 A.D. to today, 45 A.D."

Savvy?
Billy!

2006-07-25 14:31:30 · answer #5 · answered by Billy! 4 · 0 0

It also says Since John the Kingdom of God has come , and we press toward it, Before John there were no Washing away of Sins ,The Kingdom of Heaven was and is ,Here , The Bible says Now( At hand) So while Gods Kingdom was here there was no way for them to reconcile with God before John who was filled with the Holy Spirit in his Mothers womb.

2006-07-25 14:28:39 · answer #6 · answered by kritikos43 5 · 0 0

John the Baptist supposedly died in approx. 36AD (according to the Gospel of Matthew). This is a known fact, as the Bible states that John was killed for speaking against the marraige of Herod to Herodite (his brother's wife, which was against Jewish law at that time). It is a known historical fact that this marriage was in 35AD.

Problem is, Gospel of Matt also states that Jesus was born in 4BC, which makes him much older than the given age of 33.5 years when he was crucified...... IF this acccount is to be believed, then Jesus was crucified at approx. 38 years old....

2006-07-25 14:28:20 · answer #7 · answered by YDoncha_Blowme 6 · 0 0

Hello??? Matthew wrote it, not John. It's pretty plain to me: from the time of John the Baptist until now.

2006-07-25 14:27:20 · answer #8 · answered by JW 4 · 0 0

Most of the biblical canons in the Bible were written later, not as a stream of consciousness as it played out.

2006-07-25 14:25:39 · answer #9 · answered by Blunt Honesty 7 · 0 0

Words written by men and inspired by God don't think to hard about it, This only one mans point of veiw!!!!

2006-07-25 14:26:53 · answer #10 · answered by yorkiemom 2 · 0 0

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