Why such a hard time?

Question

Like myself, most Christians I know are pretty laid back people who understand they are not perfect, try their best to do what they can for others, and always fall short of the worlds expectations of them as Christians?

Why does it feel like we are constantly under attack from non-Christian people for the worlds problems when it is not necessarily us who go out and create them? Remember, Satan brought sin into the world, not Christians. If you want to attack someone, attack those followers of Satan, not the followers of Christ who would like to see the world not have so mane issues.

Why such a hard time people?

Answer 1

Oh, I disagree.
Some 'christians' who preach hatred, bigotry, discrimination, and therefore violence against gay people certainly create problems for other humans in this world. Their actions completely go against all their beliefs. WWJD?

Answer 2

If you keep your beliefs in your own house, there is no problem. Believe anything you want!

However, when you head out to the polls with your brainwashed, ignorant masses and vote for...

-constitutional amendments to discriminate against homosexuals
-taking away my right as a woman to control my own reproduction
-voiting to teach ignorant non-science in the classroom that not a single respected, peer-reveiwed sceintist supports (intelligent design)
-prayer in schools is a violation of the separation if church and state outlined in the constition --this violates my rights as a citizen and is extremely offensive
-voting for an unqualified president simply because he shares your religion
This president who:
-Led us into an unneccesary war
-Has an utter contempt for the environment
-Just vetoed stems cell research even though the majority of the US supports it

For all these reasons, it is a BIG problem for the ENTIRE world what Christians choose to believe. This makes it my civic duty, for the common good of all world citizens, to do anything I can to encourage rational thought and hope that one day the blind sheep will learn to reason. Sorry for the hard time, but I do it for the good of all that is sane and true!!

Answer 3

1. To non christians. Recall that little incident back round oh... 0 a.d. to the early 1400's. The Dark ages. That is what Christian society represents. A return to ignorance and corrupt Religeous officials.

2. Recall the Crusades. : and you have the gall to say you didn't start problems?

3. Um.. hard to do, your beliefs give you a scape goat. Anything you don't like you say is caused by Satan or the people you don't like follow him .... Thus they must be stopped / killed / converted forcefully.

So, yeah we give you a hard time.

Look around you man. The world only cares for your god for christmas and fear.

Answer 4

You justify most if not all actions through Christ...That's one problem...Why not take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for your actions? Have you ever bothered to Question your faith (a sin)? Doubt it and that's another issue with Christians...You rarely accept the concept that anything may/might be wrong with the theology upon which your faith is based. Did it ever occur to Jesus is FALSE? Explore a little bit...expand your mind...LEARN something beyond the doctrine which you were brought up in...YOU MAY ACTUALLY FIND IT TO BE A TRULY SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE! PEACE!

Answer 5

Any group which sets forth the idea that theirs is the only true or correct view of the world is going to come under attack sooner or later.

Answer 6

I understand what you are saying. But remember Christians blame others too. Blaming someone rather than taking responsibility for your own actions is human nature not just a religious thing.

Answer 7

Ha Ha! Its called Christaphobia!
Part of the Spirit Warfare.

It is Politically Incorrect to nail anyone but Christians.

Try taking the name of mohamed, allah, or buddah in a TV show and they would tear down the TV station.

We are soft BOZOS who just let it go by.

Answer 8

But to non christians, there is no Satan.

Answer 9

I agree, but remember, Jesus said that when we are bashed because we follow Him, it's a good thing. We they bash our faith, it means we are on the right track.

Answer 10

Think of it as a Public Service.

It is the moral responsibility and ethical duty of rational people to protect vulnerable minds from being contaminated by Bronze Age myths and willful ignorance. Beyond that, Christianity represents a huge threat to the well-being and survival of our country and to the whole world... and so it must be confronted.

I prefer the term 'Rationalist', or 'Free Thinker', as opposed to 'atheist', since those terms capture more of the people who think that religious beliefs are stupid and irrelevant than the term 'atheist' does. Those terms capture the main reason that people BECOME Atheists... i.e., they have learned how to THINK properly. Once someone learns how to think properly, religious belief is one of the first casualties. Religious belief... particularly the Abrahamic cults of desert monotheism (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)... simply cannot withstand the glaring light of reason and critical thought. It just evaporates. Poof. The fact that Christians assert and promote such ridiculous beliefs is a clear indication that they CAN'T (or WON'T) think properly.

Rational people recognize that some people who visit this forum are truly, sincerely seeking answers... with an open mind (willing to honestly consider alternative possibilities), and with intellectual honesty (willingness to freely question and doubt their own presumptions). That being the case, it is the MORAL OBLIGATION of rational people to HELP them keep their minds open, and to make them aware of some of those alternative possibilities. Inevitably, those alternative possibilities DO NOT include things like a terrarium earth, talking snakes and donkeys, demons, friendly spirits, evil spirits, walking on water, multiplying loaves and fishes, people raising from the dead, stopping the sun in its tracks, parting seas, people being bodily sucked up into heaven (which, by the way, lies on the other side of the sky), world-wide floods, creating people from dust bunnies and ribs, magical trees of knowledge, gods speaking from burning bushes... and ritual cannibalism by eating god in the form of a cracker.

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"A thorough reading and understanding of the Bible is the surest path to atheism” ~ Donald Morgan
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So, when someone comes along in a PUBLIC FORUM, regurgitating dogmatic slogans, and the myths, superstitions, fairy tales and fantastical delusions of an ignorant bunch of Bronze Age fishermen and wandering goat herders, and declaring them to represent some kind of cosmic 'TRUTH' (without the least bit of credible evidence)... well, by golly, that just HAS TO BE confronted.

All faith-based religious belief is fully deserving of all the scorn and ridicule that can be heaped upon it. It is a simple matter of people with rational minds having a moral obligation to stand in opposition to willful ignorance. It is quite necessary that this be done, if we are to have any hope that the human race will survive and evolve to meet its full potential. So, when these myths, superstitions, fairy tales and fantastical delusions are presented and declared to 'TRUTH', in the venue of a PUBLIC FORUM, a confrontation is inevitable.

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"I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do."  ~ D. Dale Gulledge
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In order to have a rational view of the universe, it is necessary that one possess the mental faculties that facilitate reason, logic and critical thought. The things that are entailed by Christian beliefs demonstrate, beyond any doubt, a lack of those capabilities. Christians do serve a useful purpose on this earth... as a classic 'bad example'. They obligingly provide assertions about impossible happenings and circumstances, and magical delusions, and glaring misconceptions about science and nature and the universe... which can then be rationally confronted and exposed, and their preposterousness revealed.

Again... rational people are not trying to convert Christians... we are trying to protect people FROM Christians, and the insidious mind killing delusions and willful ignorance which they seek to spread, as if they were some kind of organized, dogmatic insanity virus.

However, rational people DO respect everyone's right, in the privacy of their own minds, to delude themselves in whatever fashion they deem fit.

Science, logic, reason, and critical thought have long been regarded (by religious people) as the enemies of religion. Considering that those are the tools of highly intelligent people, it should not come as a huge shock to learn that intelligence (or lack of it) has some connection to religious belief. In fact, there are about 20 studies, conducted over a period of 80 years or so, that reveal a statistically significant NEGATIVE CORRELATION between intelligence and religiosity. In plainer language, that means that they found that the more intelligent a person is, the LESS likely that person is to be religious.

If you think about it, those findings make a lot of sense. Intelligence tests mainly provide an indication of reasoning ability and problem solving ability... logic, reason and critical thought. These are the very qualities that see through religion, and recognize it for what it is; i.e., religion cannot survive the glaring light of reason and critical thought. This was well understood by important figures in religious history. This is why the early church destroyed all the 'tainted' (non-canonical) writings, which were in conflict with dogma... Greek philosophy, medicine, mathematics, astronomy, engineering... all the good stuff. By this means, Christianity dragged humanity directly into the Dark Ages.

Just to illustrate the point, let's see what Martin Luther, the 'father' of protestantism, had to say about 'reason' and secular knowledge:

"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God." ~ Martin Luther

"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but -- more frequently than not -- struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God." ~ Martin Luther

"There is on earth among all dangers no more dangerous thing than a richly endowed and adroit reason... Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed." ~ Martin Luther

"Reason should be destroyed in all Christians." ~ Martin Luther

Christianity is essentially a criminal business enterprise... in fact, it is the world's longest running and most successful Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) scam. The product they are selling is 'salvation'. FORTUNATELY, it only works on those who are gullible enough to fall for it. UNfortunately, THAT accounts for about 87% of the population of the USA. (There are a lot more people who DON'T know how to think properly than there are people who DO know how to think properly.) That is why there are a lot more religious people in the USA than there are 'Free-thinkers'... including Atheists. Also, Christians are generally too dense to realize that proselytizing (spreading the 'good news') is a key element of the Christian MLM MARKETING PLAN, which was instituted after Christianity lost the political power that had previously allowed them to simply torture and kill anybody who did not comply. Now, they attempt to just pester people to death, through persistent obliviousness and obnoxiousness. If you stop to think about it, you will realize that Christians are very much like the Borg, on Star Trek Next Generation: "You will be assimilated. Resistence is futile." I would not be surprised to learn the thoughts of Christianity provided the 'creative spark' for the Borg concept.

Interestingly, statistics on supernatural beliefs count the USA with backward, developing Third World nations, rather than among modern, advanced industrial powers. How does it feel to be a contributor to that backwardness?

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"Selling eternal life is an unbeatable business, with no customers ever asking for their money back after the goods are not delivered." ~ Victor J. Stenger

"Businesses may come and go, but religion will last forever, for in no other endeavor does the consumer blame himself for product failure."  ~ Harvard Lamphoon, "Doon" (paraphrase)