Christians?

Question

I see on here where some ask us why would God have us kill folks, and they read from the Old Testement. Are we not living in the New Testement days? Should we do away with the Old Testement as far as the laws they had to live by?

Answer 1

In the old Test. God gave swift judgement. He didnt let them keep doing wrong and get away with it. Then Christ came and brought grace with him. We are living in the grace period. We still will have chastisment, but not like from the old test. Galatians is a good book on the law of the old test and why that law was set up. We should learn from the old test, but as far as some of those laws, no we are not under those no more. The ten commandments are still used even in the new test. God bless you in your studies.

Answer 2

The short answer is that both Paul and Jesus taught that we are no longer bound by the Law of Moses (See Galatians, chapters 3-5 for example, or Hebrews chapter 8).

Christians mainly use the Old Testament as a guide to help properly interpret the New Testament. It provides a context and definitions (Such as, what did Paul or Jesus mean when they said that the "sexual immoral" would not inherent Heaven? (Mark 7:17-22; 1 Cor. 6:9-11)? Since Jesus was a Jew talking to other Jews, it stand to reason that the definition of this term is found in the Jewish scriptures.), but Moses is not directly binding on Christians today (Acts 15:1-35).

So we don't have to stone adulters, for example (John 8:2-11).

I hope that helps!

Answer 3

Ephesians 2:15 Through his body on the cross, Christ put an end to the law with all its commands and rules. He wanted to create one new group of people out of the two. He wanted to make peace between them.

Someone said that Jesus came to fulfill the law, not to destroy it. He did, but once fulfilled, it WAS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. Christians are NOT, repeat NOT to follow the 10 commandments or anything else in the law.

Matt 5:18 What I’m about to tell you is true. Heaven and earth will disappear before the smallest letter disappears from the Law. Not even the smallest stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law until everything is completed.

until everything is completed... With Jesus' death, everything WAS COMPLETED!

Gal 5:4 Some of you are trying to be made right with God by obeying the law. You have been separated from Christ. You have fallen away from God’s grace.

-- Trying to obey the law is claimning that you can live by the law. It is saying that Jesus' sacrifice was unnecessary. Paul told the Galatians that by doing so, THEY HAD FALLEN FROM GRACE.

Answer 4

The real question is: is the Old Testament a record of revelation made to the Jews? Did God really tell the Jews to commit genocide? And the answer is clearly, no. That means that the scriptures are human writings about God, not God's message to human beings. And *that* means that the same is true for the New Testament as well... So, do you see their point? Even though the NT reveals more about God's love, it's still full of moral error, such as Paul's homophobia and misogyny. There's no escape from the free exercise of conscience!

Answer 5

If you do away with the Old Testament, you make the New Testament of no relevance. How can it be proven that Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament if you don't have the Old Testament? When Paul wrote "All Scripture is God breathed" he was referring to the Old Testament. The New Testament hadn't been canonized as Scripture yet. If you do away with the Old, you have to do away with the New. And woe to those who do so. We are not to add or take away from the words of Scripture. Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32. Revelation 22:18-19

Answer 6

We are living in the New Testament, and you are right that we are not living under Old Testament Law because Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law.

Hebrews 8:6-13

Matthew27:34-40

Answer 7

Well basically the old testament is the rules we have to live by but the new testament is what is going on in the world today. Because everything that is going on in this world today it is written in the bible in Matthew 24 if I am not mistaken. Also take time to read the Bible I understand that it is a hard book to read but that is what God wants from us to do is read from the bible and if you dont understand then ask God he will answer you. Hope this message ministered you God Bless..

Answer 8

We are indeed living in the New Testament Days...but you have to understand it took the History of the Hebraic movement of God through this one chosen group of people to lead us to the time of Christ for the Jew and the Gentile alike. What people don't often put together is that Pagan religions weren't a bunch of people sitting around chanting over burning candles. These people were all about harming each other, enslavement, idolitry to the extint that they would pass their own children through sacrificial fires. Slaugther and violence was being faught fire with fire at that time. As was then so it is now where the Holy Lands have always been under attack by opposing forces. While God does not condone violence, evil, murder and "the dashing of infants against the stones", He has had to deal with us on our human terms in order to establish things as they are now. To lead the entirety of the Kingdom of God all the way around globally. It was a conquer or be conquered scenario or done in order to gain what rightfully belonged to the children of God..God's people. Now all of that is done in the hearts and minds of men by the love and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Those that live by the sword will die with it. When all is said and done the ultimate goal is to erradicate violence, strife, evil, wickedness and the greed for power. He has written His laws on our hearts and one of those most important laws is to love your neighbor..but what if your neighbor is trying to kill you? We are not to fear the killing of the body or the Spirit. God will restore both and that is what the Old Testament is all about. Don't dismiss it because the two "seem" to relay opposing renditions of our creator. Salvation has always been by grace since the beginning. Love in Christ, ~J~ <><

Answer 9

I totally agree with Alan S but I have this to add, Jesus did away with the old testament but that doesn't mean everything is changed, for example, witchcraft, gay, sex outside marriage, idolatry, fortunetelling and the ten commandments. There are a lot of things in the old testament which are not changed, so don't ignore the old testament.

Answer 10

If the 'God' Jehovah never changes, then the OT should still be valid (from a Christian point of view).

If the 'God' Jehovah does change, then there is no guarantee that anything is permanent (from a Christian point of view).

No guarantee that Christians will go to heaven, or stay in heaven.

No guarantee that there won't be another "jealous angel" and another war in heaven at some future time.

No guarantee that all souls won't be decimated in a moment of 'God's' rage.

Although they'd never admit it, bible believers view God as temperamental and spiteful, and a little mad.

You'll never find God in ancient texts written by men.