I believe in God in the sense that god created the universe, but i also believe in science (big bang, evoluti?

Question

My question is this: am I considered a creationist or evolutionist? Also I would like to hear whether you people are creationist or evolutionist and provide details...thanks

by the way im not christian, im hindu

Answer 1

maybe you are a deist, they believe God created the universe but stays out of people's lives and lets nature run her course. I am an atheist.

Answer 2

Hi!

The term usually used to describe your belief is "theistic evolutionist".

I am a creationist, but this was not always the case. For about 15 years, I believed as you do that God started the world and left evolution to complete it. "Science has to be right because it is based on quantified data, experimentation, and proof." But, the Bible is also right because it came from God and God cannot lie.
The only way I could reconcile these ideas was to accept theistic evolution.

Then, I listened to a man named Ken Hamm. He pointed out a very big problem with theistic evolution. The Bible teaches that there was no death before Adam sinned. But, theistic evolution
teaches that death occured for millions of years before Adam even came on the scene. This necessitates that either the Bible is wrong, or evolution is wrong.

Both creationist and evolutionist use the same data to prove their point so which is right? It comes down to the interpretation of the data. But, there is one fact that science has not been able to explain away.

Science is base on numbers. Data is quantified. Various mathematical computations are performed in order to answer the pressing questions. However, in the case of evolution, there is one set of statistics that science has refused to deal with, largely because they cannot deal with it and still believe in evolution. The statistical possibility of everything coming into existance out of nothing is a big goose egg; 0.00% percent chance of that happening! Also, this theory was disproved over 100 years ago. The theory back then was called sponteanius generation.

Today, there is a new theory concerning the formation of all that is. There was this tiny, little speck of matter. This speck was incredibly dense because it contained all matter that would ever exist. And, because it was so dense, it exploded, forming the entire universe and, ultimately, all that is in the universe. One problem here - the gravitational pull on such a speck of matter would have been so great that nothing could have escaped the speck. It could not have exploded!

I realize that much of what I wrote has "little" to do with evolution; at least on the surface. But what I am trying to show is that evolution is incorrect, not because science made a mistake, but because science began with a false premise - God doesn't exist.
Evolution is the logical outcome of a mind that refuses to accept the existance of God.

In fact, evolution is, in reality, not science but religion. It is a belief without supporting fact. It is a theory which has never been proven. It is a theory which science has begun teaching as a law without first proving it using the scientific method. It is a theory that cannot be supported with mathematical data. It is a religion because, just like Christianity, there is no tangible, quantifiable evidence, but many devout believers. It is based in faith rather than fact.

Answer 3

basically, you just analyse the information provided to you and choose what you want to belief in.,

I feel that there is no need to classify oneself.

How ever you will not sit well with christians... haha... if you tell them that there are no adam and eve... God created the universe and ... uhmm not AnE but rather we evolve from sccum... they will feel very upset as that is not what the bible said.

Also i feel that you did not have an indepth understanding of what you are talking about. God and evolution... I may be wrong, maybe you are simply comfortable with the notion of GOD, and you are not subscribing to the god of any religion. Maybe you are creating god in your own image...

Try some non-god reading like... uhmmm "Lao zhi" the chinese phylosopher. Good read on what makes up the world.




anyways i am the same as you... haha... there should eb a god out there... but i don't think god is simply as they describe in the bible, quran or other holy text....

Answer 4

It sounds like you are a Theist that believes in Evolution.

Live your convictions.

I guess what I am saying is:
1) One does not disprove the other.
2) You could be a full blown Christian and believe in Evolution, believing that God evolved living things on Earth.

I don't believe that, but someone else could and still be a Christian.

I believe that God created everything. That the earth was around long before Adam with intelligent beings on it meeting here.

I would also add that none of this is important to what I believe about Jesus Christ, who died so that men could be with God.

Answer 5

Technically you would be a devotee of "Intelligent Design," the belief in its most broadest sense that God created the universe using the observed laws of physics.

Personally, I believe the two are mutually exclusive. Science does not endeavor to answer the question, "why does the Universe exist," but rather, "how does the universe work?" And faith is just that, it shouldn't require empirical evidence. If a Supreme Being created the Universe then he/she/it did the deed in such a way that we could grasp the beauty and simultaneous simplicity and complexity that surrounds us--a beautiful gift, indeed. But as for why, only he/she/it knows the answer to that one.

Answer 6

you actually represent a large segment of the us. It is called theistic evolution. in combination with natural evolutionists, it is the majority view.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm

Beliefs elsewhere in the world:
Belief in creation science seems to be largely a U.S. phenomenon. A British survey of 103 Roman Catholic priests, Anglican bishops and Protestant ministers/pastors showed that:
97% do not believe the world was created in six days.
80% do not believe in the existence of Adam and Eve.

Answer 7

I believe in creation. I don't believe the earth was created in literal 24 hour days. I believe that the creative days were time periods. Science can actually help us to get to know God better. It demonstrates his wisdom and how organized he is. I am including a link to an article that I think you will enjoy reading.


http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2004/6/22/article_01.htm

Answer 8

I think it is logical to believe in Evolution - there is more evidence and doesn't sound like it is off a fairy tale book.

However, You can believe in a god but filter the content from the scripts you read - because they are man made - and all could be mans imagination.

You better believe in science, because science means you gotta prove it as well. Alternatively, you can look in to a philosophical religion like Buddhism

Answer 9

There's a place for you. The link below is for an organization that reconciles science and Christianity.

The astronomical record and fossil record don't disprove the existence of God, they reinforce it. The Earth and the life on it, when studied more and more, suggest more complexity and creativity then could occur by chance.

Answer 10

you are confused. If you believe God created the universe then you can not believe in evolution which says that out of nothing came something and by billions of years we evolved from monkeys (perhaps we were hampsters before monkeys). It takes just as much faith in evolution as it does to believe God created the world. You either believe God created the Universe or you dont. www.godandscience.org

Answer 11

Big bang and evolution are not empiracle science (experimentable (is that a word?) and readily verifiable by observation) such as chemistry and physics. We weren't around back then to observe the big bang or evolution. Its simply an educated guess at what happened based on what we see today. The flaw is that they are both underiden by a materialistic (what we see is all is, was, and every will be) phylosophy which rules out the existence of God all together even if the evidence points toward it.

If God created the non-living stuff we see around us, what would prevent him from creating the living stuff we see around us. What do we observe in nature and what do we know about life.
1: It is extremely complex and has its own set of blueprints in the form of DNA which is encoded into every single living cell in orgnanisms.
2: The fossil record shows abruptly appearing species with ages for fossils being arrived at to conform with evolutionary theory. If the radiometric dates do not match evolution, they are regard as inaccurate and thrown out. Therefore they cannot be trusted because they were arrived by assuming evolution is true.
3: It is highly improbable and nearly impossible for even the simplest conceivable cell to have been created by random chance and the forces of nature. When Darwin formulated his threory he did not consider a cell to be much more than a simplistic blob of matter. We now know they are an extremely complex factory, which can reproduce itself.
4: Natural selection is unable to account for species increasing in complexity as evolution claims they have. Natural selection (as the name suggests) selects from the available genetic variation in a species so the ones most fit for survival, survive. Only through random mutations could the amount of information an organism possesses, increase. All observed mutations result in a decrease in information, such as the loss of wings off desert island beetles. Speciation (the creation of new species) can occur, but only using genetic information already present, which is why there are different breeds of dog (although not separate species). Through a loss of information, a population of organisms can become very specialised in its gentic information, and become a separate species.

These lead me to believe that evolution is improbable. Because the chances of life orginating by itself are very low, and the chances of there being a positive mutation that results in an increase of information is also very low. It leads me to believe that living things are designed. Too often people take evolution for granted and don't dig deeper into the hard facts. Really it should be taught as a philosophy not as a part of science.

Faith is simple trust. I can have faith in the chair i am sitting in because it has held my weight many times before. I can also have faith in my chair if i empiracly measure the strength of the legs and check how tight the bolts are. I would then still have faith in my chair. Many people have faith in science. They trust that it will discover the truth. There can be blind faith due to wishful thinking, and carefully thought out faith due to experience and/or careful examination of what we know.

The God of the bible is not a God we would make up because he can't be manipulated or ordered around. A God we create would be like the greek gods, finite and flawed, and controllable. To believe in the God of the bible is to believe to all humanity will one day be held accountable for their actions. Therefore is it wishful thinking to beleive in no God and be able to do whatever you like? I will leave that up to you.