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In Matthew 16:28 Jesus says to his disciples, "Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom"... So jesus is telling them he would come back before the last of them were dead which would have been in the 2nd century CE at the latest.
So what happened was Jesus lying, wrong, did he come back and nobody noticed? To those of you who claim the Bible is the infallible word of God how do you explain this. To those of you who curse threaten ans write obscenities to my questions, I thank you
sincerely and turn the other cheek :)

2006-07-24 17:16:02 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I've written a series of letters to a local paper about "Bible Accuracy". Part III begins with this passage you mention. Jesus or whoever put words in his mouth thought he would return as king before all of the people present died. Mormons say some of these people still live. No one else does. Fundamentalists make fools of themselves if they try to reply to the questions I ask in my series of letters or the one you ask here. Obviously someone was quite wrong, and no one can coherently deny it...or the other errors and contradictions I list in my letters. Part III also asks where Cain found a wife. Any ideas?

2006-07-24 17:33:01 · answer #1 · answered by miyuki & kyojin 7 · 0 0

When he said you, Jesus referred to all human kind, before the end of this evil world system.


What Is the Kingdom of God?

1. When he was on earth, Jesus taught his followers to pray for God's Kingdom. A kingdom is a government that is headed by a king. God's Kingdom is a special government. It is set up in heaven and will rule over this earth. It will sanctify, or make holy, God's name. It will cause God's will to be done on earth as it is done in heaven.—Matthew 6:9, 10.

2. God promised that Jesus would become the King of His Kingdom. (Luke 1:30-33) When Jesus was on earth, he proved that he would be a kind, just, and perfect Ruler. When he returned to heaven, he was not enthroned as King of God's Kingdom right away. (Hebrews 10:12, 13) In 1914, Jehovah gave Jesus the authority He had promised him. Since then, Jesus has ruled in heaven as Jehovah's appointed King.—Daniel 7:13, 14.

3. Jehovah has also selected some faithful men and women from the earth to go to heaven. They will rule with Jesus as kings, judges, and priests over mankind. (Luke 22:28-30; Revelation 5:9, 10) Jesus called these corulers in his Kingdom a "little flock." They number 144,000.—Luke 12:32; Revelation 14:1-3.

4. As soon as Jesus became King, he threw Satan and his wicked angels out of heaven and down to the locality of the earth. That is why things have become so bad here on earth since 1914. (Revelation 12:9, 12) Wars, famines, pestilences, increasing lawlessness—all these are part of a "sign" indicating that Jesus is ruling and that this system is in its last days.—Matthew 24:3, 7, 8, 12; Luke 21:10, 11; 2 Timothy 3:1-5.

5. Soon Jesus will judge people, separating them as a shepherd separates sheep from goats. The "sheep" are those who will have proved themselves his loyal subjects. They will receive everlasting life on earth. The "goats" are those who will have rejected God's Kingdom. (Matthew 25:31-34, 46) In the near future, Jesus will destroy all goatlike ones. (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9) If you want to be one of Jesus' "sheep," you must listen to the Kingdom message and act on what you learn.—Matthew 24:14.

Under Jesus' rule, there will be no more hatred or prejudice

6. Now the earth is divided up into many countries. Each has its own government. These nations often fight one another. But God's Kingdom will replace all human governments. It will rule as the only government over the entire earth. (Daniel 2:44) Then there will be no more war, crime, and violence. All people will live together in peace and unity.—Micah 4:3, 4.

7. During Jesus' Thousand Year Reign, faithful humans will become perfect, and the whole earth will become a paradise. By the end of the thousand years, Jesus will have done everything God asked him to do. Then he will hand the Kingdom back to his Father. (1 Corinthians 15:24) Why not tell your friends and loved ones about what God's Kingdom will do?

2006-07-25 00:28:23 · answer #2 · answered by Armerys 3 · 0 0

Why do you assume that you know what Christ meant? He could have been speaking metaphorically. Perhaps he merely meant that the rise of the Christian religion would begin in their lifetimes.

In any case, the passage apparently didn't cause confusion at the time it was published, and the final versions of the Gospels were not published until after the disciples would have been dead.

If you must take it literally, how do you know that all the disciples are dead? Maybe some of them are still around, over 2000 years old, enjoying their senior citizen discounts until the Son of Man returns.

2006-07-25 00:29:42 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

About a week after saying what he did at Matthew 16:28,Jesus took "some of "the apostles(Peter,James and John)up on a lofty mountain,likely Mount Hermon.There he was transfigured to appear in a vision with Moses and Elijah.And God said "This is my Son,the one that has been chosen.Listen to him.-Luke9:28-35;
Matt.17:1-5;Mark9:2-6.
The transfiguration was a vision of Jesus in kingdom power and heavenly glory,as Peter later confirmed.Referring to the transfiguration,Peter explained
that they had thus "become eyewitnesses of his magnificence".He added that in the transfiguration Jesus had "received from God the Father honour and glory(2Peter 1:16-18).So,it appears that when Jesus said that before they died some of the apostles would see him in his kingdom,he was referring to the transfiguration scene that some of them eyewitnesses shortly after ward.

2006-07-25 00:31:01 · answer #4 · answered by lillie 6 · 0 0

I hope this helps.
because all the disciples died before Christ's return, many believe that Jesus' words were fulfilled at the transfiguration when Peter, James and John saw his glory (Matt 17:1-3) Others say this statement refers to Pentecost (Acts 2) and the beginning of Christ's church. In either case , certain disciples were witness to the power and glory of Christ's kingdom.
I find this to make sense but only if you are truly seeking to understand, If your point is to disprove then it really does not matter.
God Bless

2006-07-25 00:28:10 · answer #5 · answered by melissa s 4 · 0 0

He is talking about the transfiguration.

17:1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves.
2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light.
3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4 Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters--one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah."
5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!"
6 When the disciples heard this, they fell face down to the ground, terrified.
7 But Jesus came and touched them. "Get up," he said. "Don't be afraid."
8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus.


They saw Jesus Glorified.

Moses was a symbol of the resurrected and Elijah was a symbol of those who would be alive at the second coming.

2006-07-25 00:29:21 · answer #6 · answered by SEOplanNOW.com 7 · 0 0

Oh he came back at least twice before the accession.
We are living in the new testament. which says that none shall know the day of my coming for i shall come as a thief in the night to judge the quick and the dead.

2006-07-25 00:26:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

if you know so much as to turn the cheek when someone is being mean to you,how is it that you can ask us out of the same breath if Jesus was lying or not? you can not serve two masters you will either love one and despite the other or despite the one and love the other.....and for the record Jesus can not lie....

2006-07-25 00:25:51 · answer #8 · answered by 0samaria s 3 · 0 0

Eh, Jesus lied all the time.

Remember when he mentioned that praying to God could move literal mountains? Or, in fact, when he said that any and every prayer you made would come true?

Doesn't work for me, I'm sorry to say :\

2006-07-25 00:21:17 · answer #9 · answered by picsnap 3 · 0 0

Some felt the Big Time was 79 AD

2006-07-25 00:19:07 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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