God believers, can we give God a choice?

Question

LET'S TELL GOD HE HAS TO CHOOSE TO

A. BRING HIS *** DOWN AND SHOW HIMSELF(VISUALLY)

OR

B. BE IGNORED


Isn't this a good way to get God off of his lazy *** and stop these religious wars?

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Answer 1

No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus got written well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings. Although one can argue that many of these writings come from fraud or interpolations, I will use the information and dates to show that even if these sources did not come from interpolations, they could still not serve as reliable evidence for a historical Jesus, simply because all sources derive from hearsay accounts.

Hearsay means information derived from other people rather than on a witness' own knowledge.

Courts of law do not generally allow hearsay as testimony, and nor does honest modern scholarship. Hearsay provides no proof or good evidence, and therefore, we should dismiss it.

If you do not understand this, imagine yourself confronted with a charge for a crime which you know you did not commit. You feel confident that no one can prove guilt because you know that there exists no evidence whatsoever for the charge against you. Now imagine that you stand present in a court of law that allows hearsay as evidence. When the prosecution presents its case, everyone who takes the stand against you claims that you committed the crime, not as a witness themselves, but solely because other people said so. None of these other people, mind you, ever show up in court, nor can anyone find them.

Hearsay does not work as evidence because we have no way of knowing whether the person lies, or simply bases his or her information on wrongful belief or bias. We know from history about witchcraft trials and kangaroo courts that hearsay provides neither reliable nor fair statements of evidence. We know that mythology can arise out of no good information whatsoever. We live in a world where many people believe in demons, UFOs, ghosts, or monsters, and an innumerable number of fantasies believed as fact taken from nothing but belief and hearsay. It derives from these reasons why hearsay cannot serves as good evidence, and the same reasoning must go against the claims of a historical Jesus or any other historical person.

Authors of ancient history today, of course, can only write from indirect observation in a time far removed from their aim. But a valid historian's own writing gets cited with sources that trace to the subject themselves, or to eyewitnesses and artifacts. For example a historian today who writes about the life of George Washington, of course, can not serve as an eyewitness, but he can provide citations to documents which give personal or eyewitness accounts. None of the historians about Jesus give reliable sources to eyewitnesses, therefore all we have remains as hearsay.

Answer 2

I do not believe in God. However, exploring the gedanken experiment that there IS a God, I don't imagine such a being needs to be "given" a choice. Presumably It would be quite aware of the impact of making It's presence more directly known and would either do or not do so based on information that we do not have access too and perhaps using a deductive process that is completely at odds with our own logic.

While we do create gods in our own image (after all what other basis do we have) it is not difficult for me to imagine that an omniscient and/or omnipotent being would have motivations and reasoning that are beyond the scope of my mind to hypothesize, model and predict with any accuracy.

Such a being might even exist outside of the flow time making even our basic concept of causality completely irrelevant.

Answer 3

God has revealed Himself in different ways.
Firstly through creation, and secondly by sending His Son Jesus into the world, as human flesh. He died, and rose again, and was seen by over 500 people after His resurrection.

But God shows His anger from Heaven against all sinful, wicked people who push the truth away from themselves. For the truth about God is known to them instinctively. God has put this knowledge in their hearts. From the time the world was created, people have seen the earth and the sky and all that God made. They can clearly see His invisible qualities - His eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God. Romans 1 v 18-20

Answer 4

No. We cannot give God a choice. We are the ones who have a choice to make. We can choose to end the wars ourselves, however, we're too busy hating each other to do that. Sad, but true.

Answer 5

Mad a God are we??? Well Free will. God like a good Dad found out a long time ago that he can't tell us what to do. So like a good Dad he lets stick the penny in the light socket so to speak. It's our choice if we do it again or not.

Answer 6

You don't tell God what to do. God tells you what needs to be done and gives you choices. Looks like you took the latter of the best choices.

Answer 7

When God created the stars and the planets. Does He need help?
when he formed the earth and everything in it, Does He need some advice?
When he created man, Does He need suggestion?

Does a chair is better and wiser than the Carpenter?

Answer 8

No. One does not challenge God. He doesn't respond well to such things and it is making yourself greater than He. Not a good idea. I only listen to Charlie if he's got something good to say. Apparently, I won't be listening any time soon.

Answer 9

You can't give God a choice, he gives you choices and oppertunities! If you choose to refuse him you will be punished. He never has had to do anything for us, and he'll never have to!!! It's his choice, he doesn't have to prove anything, or do anything. He's done a lot for us, so shove off and respect God!!!!

Answer 10

He's already here. When Yuri Gagarin came back from the first human trip to space, he announced, "I didn't see God up there." And an old Russian bishop said, "If you didn't see Him down here, you'll never see Him up there."