If sex outside of marriage is banned for Christians and gays can't get married, are real gays not welcome?

Question

Yes I know the incredible love the sinner hate the sin malarky, but sexless homosexuality is not homosexuality at all so...do you welcome real gays into your church? ones that are actually gay and live in loving gay relationships, maybe they have been together as partners for 30yrs or so...are you going to ask them to abandon their life partners or will you just outrightly reject gays who are really gay and won't play at being pretend straights or celibate things to make you more comfortable. I'm talking about gays who have no intention of repenting and who do not accept that their gayness is a sin at all and will never accept such a lie. Odd that they be Christians at all? perhaps!... but there must be some like this.

Reply to Morganie_xo:
As I said these are gays who are Christians and who don't believe God thinks being gay is a sin, not everybody who is Christian does you know!

Reply to LARRY S:
No thanks, this is a hypothetical question on behalf of others, I'm an atheist, just looking to see if there is any decency or compassion in this Christian thing at all or if it's all dogma and a+b=c type automated salvation systems based only on certain fixed interpretations of uncertain ancient scripture.

Reply to Julia,
"sexless heterosexuality is not heterosexuality." Well, the same can be said of pedophilia, or incest, or bestiality. Does that mean that we should not ask people prone to those sexual behaviors to abstain from acting on their desires?.. pedophilia,incest & bestiality are criminal I think Julia! whereas heterosexuality & homosexuality are not...Okay!

Reply to kenny p:
How dare you call my lifestyle "openly immoral", that is totally out of order and outrageous you half-witted excuse for a human being!
You and Julia are both a disgrace, she can't stop fantasising about pedophilia and incest and you are little better, show some intellectual & spiritual honesty please!

Answer 1

There are lots of gays who accepted Jesus in their hearts. I also know they have lots of problems in their churches. Which is insane.

I always wonder what these Christian zealots find worse; Me, a straight guy who will never accept Jesus in his heart...or a gay guy who lives according to all those other Christian religious rules.

Answer 2

Everyone is a sinner. There is no person on earth who is perfect and haven't sinned, except Jesus of course. Homosexuality is a sin. But so is lying, stealing, fornication, and etc. Jesus never rejected prostitutes or thieves. He actually got critized for being around them so often. Jesus accepted everyone for who they were by feeding them the Word of God. It's the Word that makes the changes happen inside an individual, whether they be straight or gay. I myself have several gay friends and some of them have come to my church evrynow and then. I would rather they be gay and come to church and believe that God will mold them, then for them to be straight and never give their lives over to God.

Answer 3

Gay activists claim that homosexual activity is nobody's business other than those involved in the relationship. However, this is not true. God, our Designer and Creator, has authority over all aspects of our lives. He makes the rules, and He quite specifically forbids homosexual behavior.
'You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination' (Leviticus 18:22; see also Leviticus 20:13).
Disobedience of such a clear command is living in sin,which is
covered with the blood of Christ, but each sin we commit brings us further away from God,and we have to start all over again,from a crawl to a walk, But no mater what he will aways love you. But if you just hear the word and not do what it says,what good is the word, Read the small book of James in the New Testament, there you'll find some good points of Christian Conduct that as a Christian you should try to live by.God will deliver you from sin if you seek HIM with all your Heart Soul and Mind. Read That Bible and the truth will set you free,Remember Sin is of Satan, and if you pray, GOD will Deliver you form evil......He helps us all when we ASK him to, in Jesus Name, his name... its his promise to us that what ever we ask in his name it WILL be Done,except evil things, and he Never Lies....May the Holy Spirit be with you. ......Fair Well

Answer 4

Hold on there sonny boy. Homosexuality isn't just about sex.
If a homosexual isn't engaging in sex at any paticular moment does that mean he's/she's not a homosexual?

I'm always a lesbian wether I'm engaging in sex at the moment or not.
It's not something that can be turned off like a lightbulb. It's part of what makes me who I am. Granted, it's a small part, but still a part of the whole.
The activity of sex isn't what defines my personal sexuality. It's much more than that. It's who I'm attracted to, how I relate to that person, and then it's the sex itself.

As far as Christian Churches who don't welcome Gay marriages, I say...their loss!!

Answer 5

Why is "love the sinner, hate the sin" such "malarkey" to you? It doesn't matter how many years they've been together or how loving the relationship is, IT IS STILL A SIN for man to "leave the natural USE and AFFECTION of the woman, working that which is UNSEEMLY......." as the Scripture says. We have to love them and welcome them into our churches so that they can be taught the error of that lifestyle. Revelation 21:8 says, "And the fearful and unbelieving, and the ABOMINABLE (homosexuality is an ABOMINATION before God), and the sorcerers and idolaters and all those who loveth and maketh a lie shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone which is the second death." If they have no intention of repenting, then it doesn't matter whether they come to church or not. They would still be welcome in my book, but God would have something to say about it. HE is their righteous Judge; if I fail to love them regardless of their spiritual state, then I've failed in my Christian walk. If you find these comments abusive or abrasive, I humbly ask your repentence and ask God to better guide me in saying it properly.

Answer 6

I will start by answering your question. No "real" gays are not welcomed by true christians. 1st Corinthians is very clear on the matter. In chapter 6 it tells us that men who lie with men will not inherit God's kingdom. Homosexuality is condemned in the Bible. If someone is an unrepentant practicer of homosexuality, then they are not welcome in God's organization. I have a question for you, something to think about. You say you are an atheist. I assume you mean that you believe that there is no God. If I believe that something is not true, does that mean that I will not suffer the consequences of taking action that goes against that which I believe to be untrue to begin with? For example, the law of gravity. If I believe that there is no such thing as gravity, will I float in the air if I jump off a cliff? It is important to examine all data before making up our minds on any subject. I would encourage you to examine the "Bible" not so called christianity before deciding there is no God.

Answer 7

I can see from you're question you're coming at this with the presupposition that Christians are the ones who came up with homosexuality being wrong.

But what if homosexuality actually is wrong in God's eyes?

I would say if you are homosexual, who gives a crap about pleasing Christians? Shouldn't you be concerned with pleasing God?

Seek to serve God with your whole heart. That means putting everything else above him, your career, your friends, your family, and yes, even your sex life. If you are willing to surrender your sex life to God (yes, God, not to other Christians, not to what somebody else tells you you should believe or be feeling, but what God reveals to your heart) then God will show you what you are to do.

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your paths"

Answer 8

The bible specifically bans homosexuality, however we do not ban homosexuals from church. Nor do we ban alcoholics, drug abusers, adulterers, heterosexuals living with partners, etc. We welcome anyone into church, but they may not like what they have to hear. They may feel rejected because their lifestyle is not what is considered the norm in Christian churches. Unfortunately too many people worry more about their neighbor's sins than their own and they pass judgements. However, Christians do not believe that deeds are what get you into heaven. Accepting Jesus' sacrifice and surrendering your life to him and building a personal relationship with him, are what is necessary for salvation. That is what leads you to a "less sinful life".

For those who do not believe "their gayness is a sin", they may be more comfortable in a Christian church that allows gay marriage, but that doesn't make it right. A church that remains politically correct at all times is not the one that is teaching truth. Truth is absolute, it is not relative to wether it is convenient. We all have challenges that we have to overcome in order to get closer to God. Sex, food, drug addiction, just to name a few things, are just wants of the flesh. In order to develop in your spiritual life, you might have to accept that certain things of the flesh are sinful. Some of us just have sins that are less evident, but not any less consuming of our lives. I won't tell you that I agree with homosexuality, but wether it is a "sin" that will prevent you from getting into heaven, it is not up to me to decide. Your relationship with Jesus Christ is what will get your name written in the book of life.

I have had friends who are homosexuals. I never judged them, nor avoided them. I treated them like any other people. I think it was their own perceptions based upon how I chose to live my life that drove them away. They assumed because I was a Christian and led my life a certain way, that I judged them. Sometimes people feel judged because they are projecting their own feelings onto others. That doesn't mean that it is reality.

God bless.

Answer 9

Gay people are always welcome in the Catholic Church. Their sexual behavior and lifestyle, technically speaking, disqualifies them from receiving Communion -- but they are still perfectly able and welcome to attend Mass and other events at a Catholic parish.

You said that "sexless homosexuality is not homosexuality." Well, the same can be said of pedophilia, or incest, or bestiality. Does that mean that we should not ask people prone to those sexual behaviors to abstain from acting on their desires?

Answer 10

you've stumbled by ability of the Christians and the different non secular communities wide-spread aspect to do! Twist the bible/Torah ect to compare themselves, in the adventure that they don't love it believe me they're going to discover some way of having out of gods 'rules'. So I say to you Christians, i ask your self in case you'll ever get divorced? honestly you should no longer as marriage is sacred for a guy and female and it truly is going to take position once. it is brilliant at how hypocritical non secular bodies are.

Answer 11

We welcome anyone into our church however we encourage all who are living a sinful lifestyle to work out of that lifestyle. If a drug addict came to our church we would welcome them and love them and encourage them to change. There have been wife beaters (and husband beaters) in our church we love and encourage them. And we require change. However we will not have anyone come to our church and say WE must change and accept thier sin. If they want to do that then they are not RESPECTING our beliefs or our church or thier God. If they think my church beliefs are LIES then why do they even want to attend. I attend a church were I think everything is TRUTH not lies. I would not follow a church that taught lies.

BTW sexless homosexuality IS still Homosexuality. (remember you guys are always trying to say you were "born" that way) Just as sexless porn viewing is still lust of the eyes and a sin.